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Films you see differently as an adult...

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LoveShitJokes · 19/11/2022 18:45

I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

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DatasCat · 21/11/2022 21:49

This thread would have a field day with Greco-Roman gods. Incest, rape, bestiality, child abuse and abandonment, murder, war…

In fact, never mind classical gods, how about the Bible?

MrsRinaDecker · 21/11/2022 22:37

Definitely mrs doubtfire for me as well. Even ds sees it totally differently now at 16 to what he did at 10..
Bridget Jones is another one that hasn’t aged well, but some bits probably accurately portray the time. (And actually, Bridget Jones baby is more recent, and parts of that are way worse).

MangyInseam · 21/11/2022 22:37

CatJumperTwat · 21/11/2022 08:32

I was also watching mr bean and thinking it was hilarious as always but I thought how it would not be allowed today as it is obviously about a man with special needs.

Special needs? He's an alien. 😂Have you never watched the opening credits?

From a comedy standpoint I think he's actually a clown. Kind of a child, sometimes innocent but also self-centered in the way a child can be.

We're supposed to see him as a part of ourselves that we need to recognize and laugh at, not as a man with special needs.

MangyInseam · 21/11/2022 23:10

Chloefairydust · 21/11/2022 18:00

Grease … Why did sandy have to change everything about herself to impress some guy?? 🤨

Willy wonka and the chocolate factory, loved it as a child, recently rewatched it as an adult and now I think Willy wonka was some sort of psychopath, he just seems to enjoy when bad things happen to the children in his factory lol…

Also most Disney films, even though I still totally adore all things Disney, the feminist in me wonders if it’s a good message to teach little girls that a princess needs to wait around for a Prince to rescue them 🙄

I think it's pretty clear he wasn't a cuddly nice type. He's a very Roald Dahl kind of character.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 21/11/2022 23:23

@CatJumperTwat
He's an alien. 😂Have you never watched the opening credits?
😳😳😳😳😳
Ok, that's never occurred to me and I bloody love Mr Bean!!!
That'd explain why he fell to the ground from a "beam" if so
Jeez I'm slow 😁

OldReliable · 22/11/2022 08:02

I don't think 'Disney Dad' has anything remotely to do with this as Daniel never changed who he was all along. And the children related much better to him as their father, from the start, probably because he was more of a parent to them than Miranda was.

He didn't change? What about creating an entire alter ego in order to infiltrate his wife's home?

If that's what he was like all along (because he didn't change) then she was definitely right to dump him!

Take robin williams out of the film, because everyone will forgive him anything, and it becomes a story about a controlling man child who can't face up to his ex moving on so tried to break up her new relationship... By invading her home and lying to her and her children - and getting the children to lie to their mother. He treated her like absolute shit. She's not the bad guy.

OldReliable · 22/11/2022 08:05

I loved the original willy wonka. Yes he's a bit of a shit but it was quite refreshing to see an adult not treating all children as though they're wonderful. He steps back and let's them make their own mistakes (and then they get punished horribly for them). Charlie is a wet blanket and his grandpa is a bloody waste of space.

StaceySolomonSwash · 22/11/2022 08:24

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 19/11/2022 19:51

The bit that gets me now is her Dad having to give Penny an abortion. He literally broke the law for them and could have lost his medical licence.

You might want to rewatch. Penny had a back street abortion which Baby borrowed the money for from her father. Baby then got him to give emergency medical care when Penny was haemorrhaging because of the way she'd been "butchered"

Floogal · 22/11/2022 13:36

CeCeDrake · 21/11/2022 20:02

Drop Dead Fred!!!

@CeCeDrake Rik was hilarious. But yes, her emotionally abusive mum, cheating gaslighting husband and bullying mental health nurse

fatherchr · 22/11/2022 14:06

To all the people calling out Dirty Dancing because of the age difference why is nobody calling out The Graduate or Water for Elephants? Both movies about older women seducing/sleeping with much younger men.

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 22/11/2022 14:11

The graduate was, as the name suggest, at least at the age of graduating from college, not a high school leaver!
Though I never remember thinking the age gap in DD was problematic.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/11/2022 14:20

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:13

In the summer it was Back to the Future. I’d never seen it before, it’s a PG, so I took my 5yo and 9yo.
OMG the attempted rape!!! Where she begs her future husband to help her and he’s told to go away mid-attempt. That was one fucking nightmare having to explain to my kids what was going on as it was so graphic, I complained to the cinema

oh ffs you'd see worse in Eastenders or Emmerdale. I saw it when I was 8 and it went over my head.

I’d suggest you rewatch it if you don’t think it’s that bad

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/11/2022 14:25

astronewt · 21/11/2022 14:10

Agreed. Dirty Dancing is as much or more about the ugly reality of class and money dynamics as it is the romance. Baby and Johnny were never going to dance off into the sunset together and the film knows it; but she'll be a better lawyer and judge in future because she's lost not only her sexual innocence but her innocence about money and privilege. That's the significance of Johnny introducing her as "Frances" for the last dance; she's not a baby any more.

And Dr. Housman has had his cosy assumptions about "our type" and about his daughter rocked as well; he has to recognise that Johnny, who he's looked down on, has acted better than he himself has and that his daughter is both a highly intelligent and a sexual woman.

This is a great summary!!

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 22/11/2022 15:03

Complained to the cinema about Back To The Future 😂
Great Scott, could you be more heavy?! 😁
I've watched it so many times I've lost count and the bit with Lorraine and Biff in the car definitely went over my head at that age, like others have said it did with them too

BusySittingDown · 22/11/2022 15:31

lindaha · 20/11/2022 20:10

Annie - I feel sorry for Mrs. Hannigan with all of those girls. I'd be a raging alcoholic too

so would you say the same about a teacher or youth worker these days working with tough kids all day that it's ok for them to turn up to work pissed?

Yes, yes of course I would. 🙄

FFS, it was a bit of a joke about a musical that I was OBSESSED with as a child. I hated Miss. Hannigan! There have been days when being tested by my own girls where I have thought that living in an orphanage full of them would drive me insane.

I worked with children for years and they can be testing. I just saw it from her side as an adult 😂.

I do actually know quite a few teachers who drink wine every night though. Never pissed at work though.

Icedlatteplease · 22/11/2022 15:59

peaceandove · 21/11/2022 16:21

Twas ever thus. In Jane Eyre it is strongly hinted that the main reason Mr Rochester is disgusted by his wife, Bertha, and thinks her to be mad & bad is because she enjoys sex.

In Victorian England, wives must be beige, demure and sexless.

Nope. Not in the text. It was about the fear of genetic madness. Mr Rochester is meant to stand out as a human being because he does look after her not condenm her to an asylum (which often be very abusive places for women) . He's a shit in many respects but is does take care and responsibility for people he could easily have abandoned.

I've always liked Jane Eyre, but since having a violently psychotic son and "nurses" in the house, I have renewed respect for Mr Rochester. And in a way Bertha portrayal too.

ArabeI · 22/11/2022 16:04

Agree @Icedlatteplease

Rochester could have also hastened her death by housing her elsewhere in damp, less than ideal conditions, as he said in the novel, but chose not to.

mynameisnotkate · 22/11/2022 16:31

fatherchr · 22/11/2022 14:06

To all the people calling out Dirty Dancing because of the age difference why is nobody calling out The Graduate or Water for Elephants? Both movies about older women seducing/sleeping with much younger men.

Well, Dustin Hoffmann’s character was in his 20s so it’s not really the same thing.

But the main point - which it can of baffles me that people don’t get - is that the problem is not that bad/dodgy things are depicted in movies - it would be pretty dull if they never were - but that they are often glamourised. The age-gap relationship in the Graduate is clearly messed up and unhealthy, whereas DD is a romantic film that wants us to buy into that relationship.

marktayloruk · 22/11/2022 17:10

Sometimes they work out-sometimes they don't.

marktayloruk · 22/11/2022 17:41

Didn't care for her -or for his not letting them watch Dick Van Dyke. Homework can be done at any time.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 22/11/2022 17:57

DuncanBiscuits · 19/11/2022 19:48

Rocky. It breaks my heart because it’s been my all-time favourite film for decades, but the last time I watched it I realised that consent wasn’t very high on his priority list when it came to Adrian Sad

And what a complete cunt Paulie is to his sister??

The way he talks to her and about her is just awful.

Floogal · 22/11/2022 18:22

@Ameanstreakamilewide he was also creepily too interested in her sex life. Was especially disgusting when he yells that she's "busted".
Also racist towards Apollo

TomPinch · 22/11/2022 18:37

mynameisnotkate · 22/11/2022 16:31

Well, Dustin Hoffmann’s character was in his 20s so it’s not really the same thing.

But the main point - which it can of baffles me that people don’t get - is that the problem is not that bad/dodgy things are depicted in movies - it would be pretty dull if they never were - but that they are often glamourised. The age-gap relationship in the Graduate is clearly messed up and unhealthy, whereas DD is a romantic film that wants us to buy into that relationship.

Absolutely this! It's depicted as a very unhealthy co-dependent relationship (and an affair on the part of Mrs Robinson.)

Anyway, the point of the thread is films that you see differently now. I notice that just about no one has mentioned a film that they see more positively now.

TomPinch · 22/11/2022 18:41

Icedlatteplease · 22/11/2022 15:59

Nope. Not in the text. It was about the fear of genetic madness. Mr Rochester is meant to stand out as a human being because he does look after her not condenm her to an asylum (which often be very abusive places for women) . He's a shit in many respects but is does take care and responsibility for people he could easily have abandoned.

I've always liked Jane Eyre, but since having a violently psychotic son and "nurses" in the house, I have renewed respect for Mr Rochester. And in a way Bertha portrayal too.

This is more or less what I remember about the book too. Not that Mrs Rochester simply had a healthy interest in sex.

There is a really good re-imagining of Mrs Rochester's life called Wide Sargasso Sea. I think anyone interested in Mrs Rochester's character would enjoy it. Mr Rochester doesn't come out very well in that.

DuncanBiscuits · 22/11/2022 19:00

Ameanstreakamilewide · 22/11/2022 17:57

And what a complete cunt Paulie is to his sister??

The way he talks to her and about her is just awful.

Yes, true. I was always aware of that, though. But it didn’t hit me until recently that Rocky basically ground her down until she dated him, and then at least sexually assaulted her. Awful.