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Films you see differently as an adult...

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LoveShitJokes · 19/11/2022 18:45

I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

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Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 16:25

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 21/11/2022 16:20

Maybe you should get your eyes checked; Glenn Close looked at least, at least as old as Michael Douglas, if not 5 years older. She definitely looked older than Douglas.

Ok, I will, as you are so angry about it.:) I stick to my argument though.

peaceandove · 21/11/2022 16:25

And, I never saw Baby & Johnny as a sweet love story. Ultimately, Baby is just another privileged, white, middle class woman who uses Johnny for sex - and then sashays away to her elite university and a professional career.

TomPinch · 21/11/2022 16:29

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 21/11/2022 13:34

Waugh's Vile Bodies is a great book, though. And in this novel he's very scathing about the bright young things who get into all manner of self-inflicted scrapes, and is quite funny about the clash between newspaper reporters and elitist artists.

IMO, it ranks amongst his best work. Stephen Fry did quite a passable film adaptation using the novels' working title of Bright Young Things.

(His father, Arthur, was a godawful snob and traditionalist critic for the prudish Critical Quarterly. So you can kind of see where Evelyn gets it from).

And A Handful of Dust which is one big pisstake out of the aristocracy from start to finish due to (on my reading) what they've become, which is a bunch of self-absorbed spare parts. Even Tony Last is hopeless, a well-meaning relic and a cuckold. The most you can say is that Waugh yearned for an aristocracy that no longer existed.

Waugh would have had an absolute field day lampooning Trump, Musk, Insta influencers and clicktivism if he'd been alive today.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 21/11/2022 16:31

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 16:25

Ok, I will, as you are so angry about it.:) I stick to my argument though.

😂I'm not at all angry. Just pointing out that she looked older than him, at the bare minimum the same age as him. Sorry you took offence at that.

TomPinch · 21/11/2022 16:31

peaceandove · 21/11/2022 16:21

Twas ever thus. In Jane Eyre it is strongly hinted that the main reason Mr Rochester is disgusted by his wife, Bertha, and thinks her to be mad & bad is because she enjoys sex.

In Victorian England, wives must be beige, demure and sexless.

How is this hinted at?

I studied JE at A-level and remembering us all sniggering at 'Down Pilot'. But that's a reference to Mr Rochester's own virilityv and nothing to do with Bertha.

hairyunicorn · 21/11/2022 16:38

Sparklingbrook · 19/11/2022 19:46

Dirty Dancing.
Loved it as a teen. As a parent all I can think is ‘we took you on a nice family holiday and you sneak off to sleep with the sleazy been around the block older dance teacher’. Eww. And we’re going home right now, via the STD clinic.

THIS ^^^^

peaceandove · 21/11/2022 17:30

TomPinch · 21/11/2022 16:31

How is this hinted at?

I studied JE at A-level and remembering us all sniggering at 'Down Pilot'. But that's a reference to Mr Rochester's own virilityv and nothing to do with Bertha.

God, it's been years since I studied Jane Eyre, but I'm vaguely remembering Bertha being compared to 'the blood red moon' and something about her being unchaste? She was sexy and earthy, which Rochester found exciting during their courtship - but once she was his wife he expected her to change and be the Angel in the House, etc.

Vigneau · 21/11/2022 17:54

Chickenvoicesinmyhead · 20/11/2022 21:12

Absolutely.

Interesting take on it. Yes, I can see where you are coming from and you could be right.

Genuine chivalry has been around, not always everywhere. They never wrote LTB in those days. It would at least be a few sentences of considered prose then.

Penguinsaregreat · 21/11/2022 17:54

I always thought the ending to Fatal Attraction was ridiculous. What was she Rasputin or something?
Nobody is saying what her character did was great but MD’s character gets away lightly. He was the married one. He helped to cause the pain and damage and what punishment did he receive whilst GC’s character ended up dead?
My fair lady. Watched this a a child but now I don’t like it.

Chloefairydust · 21/11/2022 18:00

Grease … Why did sandy have to change everything about herself to impress some guy?? 🤨

Willy wonka and the chocolate factory, loved it as a child, recently rewatched it as an adult and now I think Willy wonka was some sort of psychopath, he just seems to enjoy when bad things happen to the children in his factory lol…

Also most Disney films, even though I still totally adore all things Disney, the feminist in me wonders if it’s a good message to teach little girls that a princess needs to wait around for a Prince to rescue them 🙄

Penguinsaregreat · 21/11/2022 18:04

Grease again. Even as a child my friend and I always said how could Sandy forgive Danny for dancing with Cha Cha? We were furious on her behalf. I felt then that he was a shit. He could have refused point blank to dance with her and he could have gone and looked for Sandy.
Message in lots of these films seemed to be: man is a jerk but it’s ok because he is great looking and can dance!

darisdet · 21/11/2022 18:14

The man in Grease did some attempt to change as well, but it was half hearted in my opinion. He just tossed the jacket off for the final dance, and he was wearing his usual outfit underneath.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/11/2022 18:16

The Marriage and Civil Partnership (Minimum Age) Act 2022 received Royal Assent in April this year. It is planned to come into effect on Monday 27 February 2023. The Act will raise the age of marriage and civil partnership to 18 in England and Wales to protect children from the scourge of forced marriage

Very good news.
I don't know how the pp knows that forced marriages don't happen here.

ScribblingPixie · 21/11/2022 18:41

Grease again. Even as a child my friend and I always said how could Sandy forgive Danny for dancing with Cha Cha? We were furious on her behalf.

To be fair, that scene was put in because the dance moves were too advanced for Olivia Newton John. I agree it didn't work.

ArcheryAnnie · 21/11/2022 19:03

Daniel invaded his ex's home under false pretences, again and again. That trumps everything!

I would never get over that.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 21/11/2022 19:28

@Chloefairydust ·

Willy wonka and the chocolate factory, loved it as a child, recently rewatched it as an adult and now I think Willy wonka was some sort of psychopath, he just seems to enjoy when bad things happen to the children in his factory lol…
Ha, yes ...
"stop, no come back .."
At least pretend to sound like you mean it 😁
Also Grandpa Joe.
Bedridden for 20 years, gets a ticket to the local chocolate factory and suddenly he can jump out and do a dance? 🙄😁
All his staff seemingly being laid off overnight too (one night they just didn't go in) so he could use Oompa Loompas he'd found on his travels as mini slave labourers by paying them in chocolate lol.
I still love Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, just have a bad habit as an adult as overthinking things 🤣

darisdet · 21/11/2022 20:00

There's a couple of Grandpa Joe posts I see Grin

You probably know there are actual large groups online dedicated to Grandpa Joe hate? Fascinating stuff! I'm not in them but had a look the last time they were mentioned on a similar thread.

CeCeDrake · 21/11/2022 20:02

Drop Dead Fred!!!

brookln · 21/11/2022 20:12

nophonesonbed · 19/11/2022 19:21

Rita sue and Bob too. A fun film about people enjoying themselves. Or teens being sexually abused???

I've just gone down a rabbit hole and read the the writer for this movie died of suspected alcohol abuse at 29. She had a stillborn baby at 16, then 3 more kids by different fathers. She never left her estate even when she became an acclaimed writer.

What's worse, in 2007 her drug addict daughter (only 11 when mum died) living in hostels was convicted of manslaughter for the death of her 2 year old by giving him methadone bottles to play with. Apparently toddler was addicted to drugs and had cocaine and crack in his system.

Absolutely awful 😢

Ineedtorunaway · 21/11/2022 20:22

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icelolly99 · 21/11/2022 20:23

@Ineedtorunaway SNF has had several mentions on this thread....

Ineedtorunaway · 21/11/2022 20:27

icelolly99 how did I miss that doh :)

A580Hojas · 21/11/2022 20:34

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Have you read the thread?

Saturday Night Fever does feature rape and suicide. But I never thought of it as a feel-good movie. It was originally an 18 cert as has been pointed out many times.

I always thought it showed the great dichotomy of the highs and low/good and bad sides of living in New York at that time. Literally moving up in the world (over the Brooklyn Bridge) is a huge theme.

It was also made before Grease so anyone expecting something moderately bland like that (although very questionable now) was watching in the wrong order.

polio999 · 21/11/2022 21:12

Nobody is saying what her character did was great but MD’s character gets away lightly. He was the married one. He helped to cause the pain and damage and what punishment did he receive whilst GC’s character ended up dead

oh ffs if this was reverse gender you'd not say this. So if a woman ends it with a man and he acid attacks her or tries to kill her is it her fault for ending it and causing him pain?

cakeorwine · 21/11/2022 21:46

Top Gun

You don't buzz the tower. There are rules for a reason and controlled airspace. It's how people get injured.