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Films you see differently as an adult...

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LoveShitJokes · 19/11/2022 18:45

I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

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Trianglesquarerectangle · 21/11/2022 07:32

@ByTheGrace Well I don’t necessarily think it’s a look you would celebrate with song and dance if it was your child, or mother, but maybe that’s just me.

Flakjacketon · 21/11/2022 07:43

Early Disney cartoons. Snow White - terrifying

CatJumperTwat · 21/11/2022 08:32

I was also watching mr bean and thinking it was hilarious as always but I thought how it would not be allowed today as it is obviously about a man with special needs.

Special needs? He's an alien. 😂Have you never watched the opening credits?

TomPinch · 21/11/2022 08:39

I remember thinking the same about Mr Bean: that he was a joke at the expense of special needs people. But I mentioned this to someone whose opinion I respected a lot, and she said quite strongly: "No! He's a mean-minded man."

I've never been entirely convinced about that but the point has stuck with me.

redfuchsia · 21/11/2022 09:13

Gigi

CatJumperTwat · 21/11/2022 09:34

I can't believe multiple people think Mr Bean is a human with special needs. He's literally beamed down from space in the opening credits!

ArcheryAnnie · 21/11/2022 09:34

Mrs Doubtfire: if my ex (or indeed any man) had put on a disguise to infiltrate my home as a female nanny, I would need a thousand hours of therapy to deal with my trust issues. Plus I'd report him as a home invader.

Like others have said, "Big". A sex scene between a kid and a grown woman. Ugh.

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 10:00

A lot of extremely problematic Michael Douglas films. He seems to make a career of starring in films where he is stalked by hot predatory women 20 years younger than him. Requires massive suspension of disbelief.

DuncanBiscuits · 21/11/2022 10:03

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 10:00

A lot of extremely problematic Michael Douglas films. He seems to make a career of starring in films where he is stalked by hot predatory women 20 years younger than him. Requires massive suspension of disbelief.

Especially given his penchant for turning up at night clubs in a V-neck pullover.

DuncanBiscuits · 21/11/2022 10:12

The original screenplay of Pretty Woman was a far tougher, less fairytale film than what made it onto the screen.
I’d love to see that version of it. It’s a good read.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/11/2022 10:20

Whalesong · 19/11/2022 23:07

I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Love Actually! Every single storyline is sexist and misogynistic. I can't watch it anymore.

I still love Pretty woman and Dirty Dancing but only because I was a romantic teenager when they came out and have loved them ever since. Rationally I see that they are incredibly problematic. Not sure I want to watch either again to be honest.

An Officer and a Gentleman: I don't agree actually. I think it's a very good, realistic depiction of what life is/was like for people in these communities. There's a difference between promoting a misogynistic message and exposing it.

Agree re: Love Actually. Everything about the film is appalling! If I hadn't lusted after Alan Rickman I would have walked out, but even he was sleazy in it.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/11/2022 10:27

I can't believe multiple people think Mr Bean is a human with special needs. He's literally beamed down from space in the opening credits!

To be fair, he does present in many ways very much how a human with special needs might do - and to say we have the stereotype of 'superior intelligent life' from other planets! They can come up with any cover story they like - but, funny though I found a lot of it, it is sometimes very uncomfortable nowadays.

It's nothing like, say, Hyacinth Bucket or Victor Meldrew, where they have full agency but are choosing to be exaggeratedly unreasonable in their character and their attitude to others.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/11/2022 10:42

SanchezAndSmith · 20/11/2022 17:51

And Miranda doesn't really show great judgement about her children's best interests, playing happy families with Stuart after they've been dating for about 5 seconds. It's not exactly great parenting having a stanger getting hands on with your children especially whilst they're in their swimming costumes.

Didn’t she know him already and has for several years but never went there because they were always both married?

TBH if I split with my DH and he infiltrated my home and fooled us into thinking he was a woman I’d be making sure he never saw the kids again let alone had supervised visits, the freak. Mrs Doubtfire is a great movie but it’s a Disney Dad bonanza.

The argument at the beginning where Miranda she says she’s the bad guy and he’s Mr Fun is so relatable.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/11/2022 10:44

JackMummy12 · 20/11/2022 18:54

The parent trap shocked me as an adult, I just couldn’t get over how you could leave one of your children, to never see them again and be pretty blase when they turn up at your house having switched with their sister.

the hunch back of Norte Dame, the Disney version is gross how much it refers to sex and Frollo just being a total creep to Esmeralda.

The Parent Trap is interesting because if it was set in Bethnal Green with POC rather than posh Regents Park homes and Californian vineyards, they’d call social services but when you’re rich and white child abuse is a fun adventure

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/11/2022 10:51

The Everyman cinema does a family showing cheap deal now and again of a classic film. In the summer it was Back to the Future. I’d never seen it before, it’s a PG, so I took my 5yo and 9yo.

OMG the attempted rape!!! Where she begs her future husband to help her and he’s told to go away mid-attempt. That was one fucking nightmare having to explain to my kids what was going on as it was so graphic, I complained to the cinema.

marktayloruk · 21/11/2022 11:06

May I remind you that Douglas married the younger and gorgeous Catherine Zeta Jones in real life?

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:13

In the summer it was Back to the Future. I’d never seen it before, it’s a PG, so I took my 5yo and 9yo.
OMG the attempted rape!!! Where she begs her future husband to help her and he’s told to go away mid-attempt. That was one fucking nightmare having to explain to my kids what was going on as it was so graphic, I complained to the cinema

oh ffs you'd see worse in Eastenders or Emmerdale. I saw it when I was 8 and it went over my head.

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:20

A lot of extremely problematic Michael Douglas films. He seems to make a career of starring in films where he is stalked by hot predatory women 20 years younger than him. Requires massive suspension of disbelief

Eh can you give examples? Glenn Close was a great actress but not 'hot' and only 3 years younger than him. Sharon Stone was about 14 years younger than him in Basic Instinct but she's out to destroy and kill him, she doesn't want him.

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:27

80s/90s films like basic instinct, fatal attraction, single white female, disclosure, the temp etc is that whenever they want to portray a "psycho" woman, they always portray her as being very sexual.
Except Misery, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle

In The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, Peyton was very sexual. She dressed in revealing clothes in some scenes and flirted with the husband before trying to seduce him.

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:31

He was still a sleazy predator taking advantage of a sexually inexperienced girl (only just) young woman

But Dirty Dancing was a coming off age story, her transition from innocent girl into woman, It happens to everybody sooner or later so I don't get the deal here.She was 18, lost her innocence to him and he was mid 20s. I don't see the issue.People are acting like she was 13.

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:41

Fatal Attraction is wrong on so many levels, let’s blame the unmarried woman rather than the married man.
Basic Instinct is vile. Homophobia full on not to mention misogynistic. Think it was the same director as Fatal Attraction

oh ffs glen close's character was a psychotic stalker in the film. So because he had an affair with her it justifies her behaviour? Would you say the same if the roles were reversed?

Check out 'Unfaithful' movie with Richard Gere where it's similar to Basic Instinct except role reversal.Would you say she deserved his psychotic behaviour because she was having an affair?

I laugh how when there is a female villain in a movie it's 'misogyny', does that mean where every movie there's a male villain it's misandry?

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 11:44

lindaha · 21/11/2022 11:20

A lot of extremely problematic Michael Douglas films. He seems to make a career of starring in films where he is stalked by hot predatory women 20 years younger than him. Requires massive suspension of disbelief

Eh can you give examples? Glenn Close was a great actress but not 'hot' and only 3 years younger than him. Sharon Stone was about 14 years younger than him in Basic Instinct but she's out to destroy and kill him, she doesn't want him.

Glenn Close was extremely hot and looked about 20 years younger than Michael in that movie, as most of his women co-stars do.
Sharon Stone both wanted Michael Douglas as well as wanted to kill him. Yes to the v neck pullovers:)
Disclosure with Demi Moore.
War of the Roses with Kathleen Turner.
It's always bad, sexy women out to get poor old Michael, either by forcing themselves on him or in the courts.

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2022 11:46

I don't think Glenn Close's behaviour in Fatal Attraction was justified; I just think its odd that Michael Douglas keeps picking movies where he is being pursued by hot nutty women.

antelopevalley · 21/11/2022 11:48

I suspect Michael Douglas is a raging misogynist.

polio999 · 21/11/2022 11:53

Glenn Close was extremely hot and looked about 20 years younger than Michael in that movie, as most of his women co-stars do.
Sharon Stone both wanted Michael Douglas as well as wanted to kill him. Yes to the v neck pullovers:)
Disclosure with Demi Moore.
War of the Roses with Kathleen Turner.
It's always bad, sexy women out to get poor old Michael, either by forcing themselves on him or in the courts

Glenn Close was never 'hot', she was very average looking and never played the type of femme fatale or pretty girl type in films. She also didn't look 20 years younger than him in Fatal Attraction, she looked about 40 in it and he looked early 40 -mid 40s.

Kathleen Turner wasn't 'predatory' in War of The Roses though, she wanted to end their marriage. Again she didn't look 20 years younger than him either.

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