Films you see differently as an adult...

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I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

Ive only ever seen Saturday Night Fever once, fairly sure it was on terrestrial TV and it included the girl being raped and crying in the back of the car and being asked if she wants to be a nice girl or a cunt (i remember it because it was so rare to hear that word!) Also Danny forcing himself on the other dancer

my mother , who I was watching it with, said “yeah … sometimes stuff like that happened “
she also said about Bond girls “yeah sometimes they die”
:-/

re Ross and Rachel , Ross is gross but I’d throw into that how Rachel actively tried to ruin his relationships with Julie, Bonnie and Emily because she was being jealous and toxic - at least she seemed to grow as a person as the show went on though.
i think How I met your mother hasn’t aged well - Barney makes Joey look like a saint !

on a lighter note I had to explain to my kids why Poppy was wrong in Trolls World Tour

Yes, very much so.

Though I think that really, the viewer is never supposed to think the film is what prostitution is really like, and it's not a critique of prostitution. I tend to see it as a kind of modern fairy tale, it's being critical of the idea that money can be a substitute for relationships, and of the idea of finding meaning in glamour. For both of the characters really. What's meant to be a transaction becomes something more, because they can't opt out of being human.

"there's loads of sex, smoking etc"

There really isn't 'loads of sex'. It was a PG film because there's one scene where a woman gets into bed with one of the twins and it's suggested they have sex. Nothing is shown.

i love that-theres loads of smoking-yeah god forbid people smoke

TSOM is an interesting one. I think it stands up as an adult film, but you certainly see more.

The Baroness was in some ways poorly treated, though I suspect they might not have had a happy marriage. To a child she seemed very not fun, she wasn't bad but didn't relate to the children. But even from an adult perspective, her intention was to send them all away to boarding school, so they would not only be motherless but there wouldn't be much hope of a real relationship with their father either.

Whereas Maria loved them and through the marriage they gained someone like a mother but also in a sense a father who was no longer absent.

But one thing I found as an adult that was different was that the Christopher Plummer character was much more interesting. As a child he just seemed like a too strict dad. As an adult he was clearly in some ways very passionate, but also rather worldly, with a cynical and biting sense of humour, and pretty sexy too.

The Kindergarten Teacher?

Nooo!

Say Anything (directed by Cameron Crowe) is a lovely film, Lloyd Dobler is adorable and has genuine feelings for Diane Court, he would totally get away with the questionable boombox thing!

@Nettleweed 😁Thank you for the film name. This was one of the few brat pack films I didn't see at the time. Had I watched it in my teenage years I would have been totally there in the moment going ahhh how sweet. Watching it for the first time as a rather jaded middle aged grump I was all "oh! No! That's not right, creepy little toad!"

Maybe I should get my self in the mood, maybe build up with a quick watch of Mannequin and Pretty in Pink finished off with Say Anthing.

Although.... Well...Mannequin, Andrew McCarthy is way way to intense over and sexually attracted to a shop display item. And Pretty in Pink, again Andrew McCarthy being rather to intense, coupled with a brilliant piece of acting by James Spader as a slimeball. And in real life she'd have ended up with Ducky. Although she does in the book and did originally in the film but the audience didn't like the ending so they went with the ending we now all know.

Stuff it I shall spend tomorrow reliving my youth.

Boiled x

The story is inspired by "Outside Over There" which is indeed a weird book, and the babe is the little brother, an actual baby.

It's a story about growing up, Jereth is a kind of representation of her ego, or her Shadow. He's meant to be sexual and adult, but in a grasping immature way. The temptation for Sarah is to remain immature and self-centered.

I think there are really two endings to the movie.

The realistic ending where he heads off and they never see each other again.

And then the fantasy ending where he comes back and everyone ends up dancing.

It's a sort of two for one deal. Which makes a kind of sense I suppose given the film seems to combine a reasonably realistic story with bits from a musical.

I do agree, Lily wasn't a great friend all around and in her own words "needs an attitude adjustment".
I do think she did change by Princess Diaries 2, though I had hoped at the time Mia had found a new best friend that didn't relentlessly put her down and make her feel worse.

Still 2 of my favourite teen films, even though I'd have hated to have a friend like Lily at that age

I distinctly remember there were two versions and Wiki seems to agree with me, although I think the rating may have been A or AA then?

There were two versions, I saw the kids version, although I think PG might have been something different in the UK...AA or A?

Ah double post, sorry!

TBF I think Baby's father gives her the money because he really trusts her, both her intentions and her mind. That's why he's so upset when he feels his trust was broken, and probably also that he misjudged so there is guilt there.

But I totally agree with you about the treatment of Johnny. He's a little older than baby, but in other ways he's at a real disadvantage compared to the families there. People don't always pick up on it, but there was a religious as well as a class divide - it was a Borscht Belt resort, so well of Jewish families would go there. At the time many of the other resorts wouldn't accept Jewish people, so there was a whole network of places like that. The owners, the guests, and those waiters were all Jewish. Having your daughter meet a nice Jewish kid waiting tables, studying to get into medical school, was pretty ok.

The staff members like Johnny were working class kids, mainly Irish iirc and probably Catholic. They were treated very poorly by the owners and also in some cases by the guests. Ok to sleep with but certainly not anything else which is why that Yale waiter doesn't think he needs to do a damn thing to help Penny after he impregnates her.

Omg yea! I used to be obsessed with Gilmore girls and now I see Rory is really the worst. Idk about lorelei being sad but I agree she fucks up a lot and has too much unresolved trauma and resentment

YES to Mrs Doubtfire! Robin Williams’ character was a prick and a Disney Dad.

Little Mermaid - Ariel is an upstart little shit, poor King Triton.

Pretty Woman - used to think it was so romantic. Now Richard Gere just gives me the ick and I can’t quite believe they made a hit romantic film about prostitution.

Oh good yea I used to aspire to be them. But a load of cheating shits, drama queens and stalkers.

I did LOL when I last watched it when Demi Moore’s character attempted suicide by opening some windows to let a chill in 🤣

Keith Lemon and Paddy McGuiness did an absolutely hysterical parody of this scene it’s really worth a watch!

Watching it as an adult, Christopher Plummrr is really sexy!

The part that really put me off the last time I tried to watch it, was a scene at the beginning where Murphy (impersonating an amputee) is rolling through a park, and spotting an attractive woman passing, engages in some "banter" of the type that was thought to be hillarious at the time… I thought, good god, why did I never notice before how offensive this is… and I couldn't bring myself to watch any more of it.

Of course there is also the racist language used by the Duke brothers and Jamie Lee Curtis' role as the "cheerful hooker"… but I didn't make it that far.

Me too! I was gutted the last time I tried to watch it! And the same with 48 Hrs., although at least with that one I did manage to make it through the whole film on my most recent attempt. There's just something about Murphy's "banter" that I now find offensive rather than funny.

I remember my mum in the 80s, everyone in my life class was watching Grease and my mother refused to allow it as it was misogynistic. I only saw it as an adult and totally get it.

She also loathed Bill Cosby who she thought was a total sleazeball and made jokes about down syndrome children which were widely thought to be funny at the time.

I also on saw Pretty Woman as an adult as she thought it was misogynistic and I never saw any Disney films either as they were deemed sexist too.

Watership down.

So distressing.

Nope.

And I don't think the change in law applies to Scotland, where you don't need parental permission.

Several US states don't even have an age limit at all.

I don't think you can judge Romeo and Juliet in the same way, as the play was written when child marriage was normal. And often the children involved didn't have a choice in who they married.

Fwiw I actually enjoy Pretty Woman more as an adult. It's a modern take on Pygmalion and highlights several interesting themes.