Help! Really f**ked up!

[ToastyTots]

So DS slightly inflated his degree grade from a 2:2 to a 2:1.

It took him a long time to find a job after graduation so I told him to put 2:1 on his CV and he got a good job soon after. That job didn't check and he was there for 3 years. A management change early this year made the culture very toxic and it took a big strain on his MH so he resigned and was without a job for a few months until he was offered another much better job last month.

He had kept the 2:1 on his CV. New job had a screening process which asked him to put his degree grade in and as he'd kept the 2:1 on his CV, I told him he needed to put that down.

They've now asked for his degree certificate!

He's already started working for them and really loves it.

WTH can he do? He'll be sacked in the spot when he produces the certificate wont he!

Obviously not going to alter it as that'll land him in worse trouble.

You say it's a white lie, however that has stopped someone else who may have deserved the job from getting it. There are very real consequences for this sort of lie. People work hard for 3 years for their grades. What would have stopped him putting he got a 2:1 even without going to UNI?

He should resign and just take it as a learning and a bit of Karma for what lying can do!

No I agree that the lying is bad. It shows a lack of integrity.
It's all the guilt being thrown around that I don't like. Her son has cost someone else a job etc. She's already said that the job didn't specify which grade was needed.

And it is crap that someone that gets 59% isn't allowed a foot in the door but someone with 60% is. If the criteria was just "a degree in this subject" then it wouldn't matter.

The outcome depends on what job it is as well. I interviewed someone for a financial accountancy job where we have to work to financial standards whose CV said he had a 2:1.
He was offered and started work. One week later it was discovered he hadn't completed his degree but he felt that he was getting 2:1 grades so put that down on his CV. He was sacked on the spot. As for working in accountancy you have to be honest and work to financial standards so it couldn't be overlooked.
Was gutted as from what we'd seen he was suitable for the job and we would have interviewed him and considered him if his CV was honest. It was out of our hands once HR found out.

Good God. I cannot believe you suggested that to him. It’s fraudulent and quite frankly disgraceful.

Oh and it was not a “slight” inflation. There is a world of difference. A 2.2 is going to impress very few.

THE POINT IS YOU DO NOT DO THIS SORT OF THING. IT’S CHEATING.

If this job doesn't work out, there's always politics.

Hahaha

Why on earth did you advise him to do that? Words fail me.

You're just making it worse. What a role model you are.

I thing you should ask for this disgusting thread to be deleted. OP. I cannot bear to think about people behaving as you and your son have.

Alternatively, the OP could hold an inquiry, find their DS has learned their lessons, and leave it at that.

Whatever. Not my issue. It’s appalling behaviour and it is not about learning “lessons”. What a way of putting it.

I ‘technically’ got enough points for a first in my degree. However, the uni wouldn’t let me take a first as the last course which pushed it over was a personal choice and not a mandatory part of the course. I’ve never put that I got a first on any job applications and never told anyone I got a first.

it’s really poor to lie on CVs. It’s hard getting a job at the moment, I spent months applying, going for interviews, getting rejected and starting the process all over again. It would never cross my mind to lie on a CV, it’s taking away from people who have worked hard to achieve better grades and making a mockery of that employers application process.

In my job he would be sacked because the lie shows lack of integrity and honesty, regardless of if he is doing well at the job. Telling him to further lie would just make that worse.

I used to be proud of my 2:2 until I read this thread. What a terrible and useless degree I ended up with!

I can't quite believe what I'm reading re: changing the grade on both the C.V. and the portal used to apply for the job. No claiming a typo there, no 'mistake', completely deliberate.
He needs to complete completely clean, throw himself on the mercies of HR and management and hope for the best.

Yes. Some people don’t seem able to grasp this.

@ToastyTots the grade of 58.9 is a red herring, his grades would have gone through a rigorous exam board process where complex regulated calculations are used to determine what classification of degree a student is given. So no, although he may seem 'close to a 2:1' it is likely most of his work was marked at 2:2 grades (happy for anyone to pm me as work in this area at RG Uni).

I get that as his parent you wanted to help him but he is really in a sticky situation now sadly, hopefully lessons learned for both of you.

To the poster who was upset about the comments about getting a 2:2, it is no mean feat to successfully complete a degree successfully, so please don't put yourself down.

Typo re using successfully twice!

@JestersTear
I used to be proud of my 2:2 until I read this thread. What a terrible and useless degree I ended up with!

well I’m impressed with your 2:2, I don’t have a degree at all, so I’m the terrible and useless one! I’d be very happy if I could (truthfully!) say I had a 2:2!

I would like to make clear that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a 2:2. I'll be thankful to receive a 2:2 myself. I only have an issue with people lying about their grade. Be proud of what you have achieved, at least you don't feel the need to lie about it ❤