Help! Really f**ked up!

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So DS slightly inflated his degree grade from a 2:2 to a 2:1.

It took him a long time to find a job after graduation so I told him to put 2:1 on his CV and he got a good job soon after. That job didn't check and he was there for 3 years. A management change early this year made the culture very toxic and it took a big strain on his MH so he resigned and was without a job for a few months until he was offered another much better job last month.

He had kept the 2:1 on his CV. New job had a screening process which asked him to put his degree grade in and as he'd kept the 2:1 on his CV, I told him he needed to put that down.

They've now asked for his degree certificate!

He's already started working for them and really loves it.

WTH can he do? He'll be sacked in the spot when he produces the certificate wont he!

Obviously not going to alter it as that'll land him in worse trouble.

You're encouraging him to tell another lie? Seriously?

OP, you need to give your head a wobble.

That's not slightly inflating, that's a full out lie.

Yes he'll probably get sacked. That was really shit advice.

I'd do this.

The only real way to sort this would be for him to resign, get his CV correct and start applying for jobs again.

"My mum made me lie about my degree classification"

Ignore all the eejits saying what a terrible thing you/he did. You did what you had to do to help your son get started in the world of work. I would suggest just handing his degree certificate in to HR and say nothing. If they raise it with him, he should just act dumb and say "what did I put on my form, did I not write 2:2?" He needs to act like it's a genuine mistake and hopefully he'll be so good at the job, that they will just accept it was a genuine mistake. Good luck!

I’d just hand the certificate in and if questioned say it was a mistake on CV. If he is doing the job now and they like him and can see he is good at it, I don’t think they will sack him.

hope all turns out okay.

If it's a large organisation I doubt HR will even notice. They don't cross reference documents with cvs. They are just ticking items off a list. Degree certificate, tick. I'd take it in quickly, very low key. Don't draw attention by making excuses not to produce it.

So your son is a minimum of 24 and needs your advice on whether to lie to his employer or not?! He’s got bigger problems than his poor degree class.

If he doesn’t own up and offer up his resignation, he will be asked to leave and… on his reference form they will put he is untrustworthy.

You have terrible morals OP. You don’t sound sorry at all. Shame on you. So sorry for your son.

Ignore all the eejits saying what a terrible thing you/he did. You did what you had to do to help your son get started in the world of work

I missed this memo. i apologise wholeheartedly to my DC for not advising them in fraud in order to get jobs. I have failed them entirely.

Employers are really hot on this as, surprise surprise, people lie. It’s standard screening to give your degree certificate.
I started a new job a few months ago. I graduated 10 years ago and have had several professional jobs. Still had to produce my degree certificate.

What a stupid thing to do.

Oh for goodness sake- so many pearl clutchers on here!
when they ask, your son just says, apologies but that should read 2.1 they may ask him to resign but if he is decent at the job they equally may not.
if he does have to leave just change the CV to 2.2 to avoid any further issues. So many people exaggerate on their CV-!it by no means makes you a terrible parent.

I really wish that using the expression 'pearl clutching' would be made against Talk Guidelines. It's so overused and on every thread it means nothing any more.

He should just hand in the certificate and not say anything. They probably won’t cross check with his application, just tick a box to say he has handed a certificate in. In the unlikely event that they question it, then he can decide whether to try and pretend it was a mistake or to confess.

pearl clutching 🙄

it’s fraud. Maybe we just have different morals.

This thread is really sorting out the honest people from the dishonest. Lying about your degree classification is hardly “exaggerating on your CV”

I find this place so wierd some times yet I’m kind of addicted to it too.
people come here for support , they don’t need kicking while there down which the ivory tower crew seem to love doing.
OP knows she fucked up royally and is asking for advice. Jeez , no one died 🤦‍♀️

How would it be if he toughed it out first face to face, before he hands over the proof.

OP knows she fucked up royally and is asking for advice

Which he/she is getting. But not sure what they expected TBF, confessing to that.

I totally agree with the posters saying that they won’t cross reference it, I doubt anyone will notice.

Going forward tell him to put his true degree classification on his cv. I’d get him to hand over his degree certification and if queried admit he made an error.

He's lied to them. Twice. Once on the CV and once on the screening questionnaire.

It'd show a whole load of idiot if he tries to claim he mis-typed twice.

OP, by suggesting he claims his certificate is lost, you've obviously not learned how lying is wrong, have you?