Opinions on teacher's behaviour before I over react...

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I have name changed, but only because I've discussed this IRL with friends so I don't want this linking back to personal medical things I've posted about recently.

DD is 12 and in year 7. This week they are doing tests in all subjects. Clearly, these should be conducted in silence. This afternoon, they have been doing a history test (DD says short test, only 6 questions) and her friend has spoken to her. DD felt she had to reply so as not to be rude. Another friend has then mouthed something to her from across the room, and DD has given her a thumbs up. The teacher has seen all of this, and has taken DD's test paper off her, and said she'll have to redo the test tomorrow in form time, by herself. He has then ripped her test paper up over the bin.

DD says she was humiliated and embarrassed as everyone was looking at her. She cried at the time, and cried when she told me about it.

Now, DD can be a chatterbox and absolutely should have got on with her test and not interacted with her friends. I can understand that it may have looked like she was cheating. But I'm really unhappy with how things were handled by the teacher. Fair enough to take her test and make her re do it, but tearing it up and making a spectacle of DD is a bridge too far in my book.

WWYD? She doesn't want me to make a fuss.

She won’t have learned anything by being humiliated- it won’t stop her chatting because 12 year olds care infinitely more about what their friends think of them than their teachers.

Sounds appropriate. She should have learnt by now the rules for tests and exams. Even in primary in year 5 and 6 for SAT's they learn. The excuse of 'reply to not appear rude' sounds ridiculous. She should know the rules for exams.
If not explain it very clearly to her tonight.

Fair enough really. She shouldn’t have been communicating with others during a test. Not sure what there is to get so wound up about.

Teach your dato be a bit more respectful. Reinforce her behaviour is unacceptable rather than being angry with a teacher.

If she disruptive at y7 she'll only get worse unless you stamp out the behaviour and support the school.

I would tell her that she shouldn't talk in tests.

I can't see what the issue is here - except that your dd was communicating with her friends when she should not have been.

There is no reason to contact the school at all.

She should have already learnt how to follow rules and to do as the teachers have told her. Unfortunately too many schools are lax on behaviour.

It's really important to make a spectacle of it to stop them doing it in the actual exam where they don't get a do-over.

It is a bit harsh but then that's life. I'd just tell her to suck it up, redo it and move on.
She probably won't talk or interact with others during tests from now so it's a lesson learnt if nothing else.

What you do is nothing.

and her friend has spoken to her. DD felt she had to reply so as not to be rude.

This was my excuse for talking in class too every.single.time 😊😂

She'll learn though OP.

Utter rubbish.

It depends entirely on the individual and I know more kids who would learn a lesson from that than not.

She won’t have learned anything by being humiliated- it won’t stop her chatting because 12 year olds care infinitely more about what their friends think of them than their teachers

This whole post is a contradiction. Because she was embarrassed and cares what her friends think is exactly why she probably won't do it again to avoid the embarrassment. Lesson learned!

It’s not utter rubbish. Nobody has ever responded positively to humiliation. It’s shitty, bullying tactics.

I think it was right to be given a consequence but the punishment was humiliating and ott - especially to a year 7. I would say that to the school myself

No, it won’t, because her friends will be on her side. They won’t think she was wrong, they’ll think he was being a dick.

@Pumperthepumper I think you've forgotten what high school is really like!

Sorry your DD was in the wrong here and therefore you shouldn't say anything.

Also in the nicest way take DD version of events with a pinch of salt. It's always someone else's fault in my experience!

I promise you I haven’t. You’re deluded if you think any of her friends think he was right.

I’m on the teachers side with this one. Lesson learnt for your daughter. Test conditions and she went against that. I have said to students your test will go in the bin if you are caught talking/cheating etc. support the school on this clear expectation and support your daughter in learning from her mistake. She could have been disqualified if it were a real exam although I get it wasn’t her final GCSEs.

So spoke with one friend during the test then was asked another question by a different friend and gave an answer of a thumbs up the test paper was understandably destroyed and you think the teacher's in the wrong? Honestly how do teachers manage in the face of this?!

Don’t say anything to the school but do make sure your DD understands she really mustn’t talk in tests. Make it clear that if others talk to her, she should ignore them.

I promise you I haven’t. You’re deluded if you think any of her friends think he was right.

Course they don't, what kid does, but many find it funny when other kids get told off! That's why it's embarrassing!

To be honest, she’s lucky that she’s allowed to redo the test in form time.

In my classroom (following school policy) it would be an hour after school, regardless of how short the test was.
It might sound harsh but really tests should be the time when even the chattiest of pupils behave themselves. If that were a real exam,
there are very serious consequences, so best to learn that lesson now.

With lots of wine and deep breaths 😂

I think that the teacher reacted appropriately.

Maybe if you had taught your daughter not to talk when told not to it wouldn’t have happened.

It won’t change her behaviour though. Which is why it’s a stupid thing to do.