Opinions on teacher's behaviour before I over react...

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I have name changed, but only because I've discussed this IRL with friends so I don't want this linking back to personal medical things I've posted about recently.

DD is 12 and in year 7. This week they are doing tests in all subjects. Clearly, these should be conducted in silence. This afternoon, they have been doing a history test (DD says short test, only 6 questions) and her friend has spoken to her. DD felt she had to reply so as not to be rude. Another friend has then mouthed something to her from across the room, and DD has given her a thumbs up. The teacher has seen all of this, and has taken DD's test paper off her, and said she'll have to redo the test tomorrow in form time, by herself. He has then ripped her test paper up over the bin.

DD says she was humiliated and embarrassed as everyone was looking at her. She cried at the time, and cried when she told me about it.

Now, DD can be a chatterbox and absolutely should have got on with her test and not interacted with her friends. I can understand that it may have looked like she was cheating. But I'm really unhappy with how things were handled by the teacher. Fair enough to take her test and make her re do it, but tearing it up and making a spectacle of DD is a bridge too far in my book.

WWYD? She doesn't want me to make a fuss.

I would have a problem with him ripping the test up.
The talking during a test is a definite no and she needs to not worry about being rude - sit away from her friends next time.

So hang on, in your school they would see a colleague with a bleeding lip and immediately issue a punishment without asking what happened?

That would happen in my school - but that’s not what I asked you. Does your behaviour system find the cause of the behaviour (or the trigger, if you like) or does it immediately punish?

Visual reinforcement - you might not like it but at GCSE they would have their paper cancelled - no ifs, no buts, no excuses.

You obviously like questions. Are you OK with the investigation of the incident opening with a question which implicitly blames the teacher who has just been assaulted?

@Pumperthepumper how about you answer the question? It's not the first time I've asked you and it's strange that you have never answered.

That was your question, not mine. I didn’t say that anyone would ask that, because it is ridiculous.

No one said their school would immediately punish - YOU said your school wouldn’t punish at all. This policy clearly states that police would be informed. That’s an immediate consequence.

But I can’t say ‘oh, for all bullying we just hand out detentions’ because that’s not true. It depends on a huge range of factors.

That’s not a punishment though. That’s informing the police.

Yes it is, and I am telling you that it was how the incident was investigated.

Not all poor behaviour is due to an unmet need. Sometimes there isn’t a trigger. Sometimes (quite often) kids are naughty either to see if they can get away with it or because they are pretty confident that they can.

You’re just messing about here, @Pumperthepumper - silly playing about with words. Of course your school uses consequences and sanctions, after investigation, just like everyone else’s. You can’t- or won’t- prove that it doesn’t and everything you have said just proves how in line with everyone else’s your school is. I have no idea why you’re insisting it isn’t. It’s daft.

@Pumperthepumper its life she was embarrassed because she was caught , the paper being thrown in the bin made no odds as she would of been embarrassed for getting in to trouble as prob not sort of kid that gets in trouble much

I disagree. The only kids I’ve ever met who were reactive with no lead up had deep psychological problems. What you had there was shit management.

But I can’t say ‘oh, for all bullying we just hand out detentions’ because that’s not true. It depends on a huge range of factors.

If you do hand out detentions those are punishments. We've gone from never punish and redoing the test is extra work for the teacher to you would do more or less the same as anyone else but don't want to say it.

I would think that you are on a wind up but I actually knew a really effective and strict teacher once who insisted she didn't ever punish kids despite the fact that she applied the same consequences I did.

@Pumperthepumper i bet your the kind of parent all schools dread
Kids are perfect and always someone elses fault
Your about the only person who thinks this isn't ok ?
Whats your qualifications

We don’t hand out detentions. I wouldn’t do the same - I wouldn’t rip up the original test.

@Pumperthepumper every school has a behaviour policy they have to

I’m a teacher. I didn’t say all kids are perfect, loads of them are a total pain in the arse. But there’s always a reason for them being a pain in the arse.

@Pumperthepumper well not your school and not your decision
What would you of done just ignored it , then when same happens in a gcse etc the consequences would be a lot worse

Again, I didn’t say we didn’t have a behaviour policy. I said we don’t punish.

No. I’ve already said what I would have done.

@Pumperthepumper yes sometimes its called just being a kid and testing boundaries
So what if your a teacher that doesn't mean you know Every kid and every reason
Your deluded to think kids sometimes just don't test boundaries

Again; I didn’t say they don’t test boundaries. I think you need to reread my posts because you’re just inventing a load of shit. I said there’s always a reason for the behaviour.

@Pumperthepumper of course you do
Does you school do detentions ?
If there is no consequences pointless having a behaviour policy
So your school would never exclude a pupil no matter what ? Never ask a child to leave a room or call a parent