Conservative membership deciding new pm

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This is bonkers, the conservative membership cannot be trusted to decide who will be PM. They opted for Liz Truss last time, with her extreme conservative values. The country needs someone less extreme and with good morals

Actually I agree with you there, that was a weird statement to make. I would say maybe she doesn’t know what goes on in schools but I read she had been a school governor so she really should know better. Maybe the school she was involved with didn’t use the TAs properly? I don’t know but I can’t agree with her on that. School governor myself.

I don’t actually know the total answer to that but I do suspect he is somewhat blinded by Boris. He’s been a supporter for a long time and sees everything through that lens.

I’m more sceptical and do get the apologetic crappy boyfriend vibe promising to be better this time, honest.

So DH is a bit gutted now.
I just wonder what will happen tomorrow.

Either Rishi is crowned tomorrow and then we wait and see what happens, can he really get the MPs behind him? Can he fix the economy with all his so called experience?

Or, somehow Penny crosses the 100 line too, and it goes to the members. Really not sure who I’d vote for.

Looking like Boris Season 2 has been cancelled gets the bags packed - holiday time again!

@AConservativeMember Surely if Sunak gets more of the MPs support then wouldn’t he be more likely to get them behind him?

I really hope that the members are not given a choice.

I now reckon BJ has an eye on 2024 or thereabouts.

Agree re BJ looking for a return in the future, now was too soon.

So, Rishi wins. I hope those that publicly didn’t support him can support him from now on. We need the HoC to get stuff done, not remain in this every spiralling mess of vote of confidence, threats of GE, replacing leaders.

Personally, I’m happy not to have had to vote. I know not all members feel the same but they are going to have to get over it basically, no point carping on about how they wanted a vote and are anti-coronation. The parliamentary party said Rishi was one of two favourites last time, the other one has failed, so this seems fair to me.

I now reckon BJ has an eye on 2024 or thereabouts.

I don't think that's at all likely. The Tories obviously are going to lose the next GE. Assuming for the sake of argument that Sunak stays in post for the next couple of years then the party boot him after he failes in 2024, any new leader will be looking at potentially 5 years in opposition before getting into Downing Street. And that's if they're only out for one term and the 2029 GE is fought under first past the post. Johnson doesn't have the attention span for that.

I can't even blame him actually. Not wanting to spend 7 years waiting around to have another go at the job you previously fucked up when you'd probably be closer to your 70th than 60th birthday by the time it happened is pretty understandable. It's the sort of viewpoint one might expect from a normal human being.

I think it's likely,but not a done deal, that the conservatives will lose the next GE.

Rishi is exactly what is needed now for a PM, seems fairly dull, spends a lot of time talking about fiscal balance, It's astounding to me that the party members thought Truss was a better option.

I'm really hoping for a couple of years of political stability, not least because I live in Scotland and could do with independence instability being pushed into the long grass until DS finishes school.