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Which celebrity would you be gutted to find out was vile in real life?

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EachandEveryone · 20/10/2022 10:24

Tom Hanks.

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J0CASTA · 28/10/2022 22:43

OMGyoucantbeserious · 27/10/2022 18:56

My mate works in TV. Monty Don is a miserable g*t.

One of my friends met him when his garden was featured on TV. He said Monty was quite reserved and very focussed on being professional, getting the job done well. However he seemed genuinely interested in my friends garden, asked all sorts of questions, not just when on TV.

And he was happy to talk about his own garden and gave all the credit to his wife Sarah and his gardeners who do most of the work.

He comes across as a very private person who loves gardens and wants to communicate that love and enthusiasm but doesn’t really enjoy being a celebrity.

fern81 · 28/10/2022 23:15

Gherkingreen · 28/10/2022 21:46

@EachandEveryone I know someone who was an extra on one of the later Pitch Perfect films and she said neither Anna Kendrick and Rebel Wilson seemed like nice people at all. Very mean girls vibe.

I never liked either of them.
My oh referred to AK as 'the little, cute one' one time and I was so surprised as that's not how I see her at all.

FifteenMinutesOfMeTime · 28/10/2022 23:18

Barack obama

fern81 · 28/10/2022 23:27

purser25 · 24/10/2022 14:00

Matt Baker he and his family seem so nice.

Yes!
And the chap presenting the morning show on BBC - Gethin (surname?).

Lucyjess · 28/10/2022 23:32

Baby Spice!

faffadoodledo · 29/10/2022 05:08

@J0CASTA I'm so relieved by your friend's account of Monty. He lives his dogs too so personally I can't imagine he'd be horrible

Willbechristmasnext · 29/10/2022 08:48

@Lucyjess She hangs out with HW though doesn’t she 🤷🏻‍♀️
She does seem lovely though (EB)

NooNooHead1981 · 30/10/2022 08:45

Michael J Fox is my hero (he inspires me to keep staying strong with my movement disorder as he has been such an amazing inspiration with his Parkinson's). I've always loved him since a child, and if I met him and then discovered he was awful I'd cry! Back to the Future is one of my favourite films and would never quite be the same again...

NooNooHead1981 · 30/10/2022 08:52

My DM has met various celebrities and said hi to Orlando Bloom when we met him outside the theatre in London after a play he was in. He said hello back and seemed pretty cheerful.

I think she sat next to Robert Carlisle on a flight once and chatted away to him for a while. Apparently he was a really lovely person.

My MIL used to work for the BBC years ago and said some of the celebrities she heard about were totally different in real life. Bruce Forsyth was supposedly horrible and really vile to people, quite self centred and mean.

NooNooHead1981 · 30/10/2022 08:58

When I was in the audience aged 18 of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire (about 20 odd years ago when my godfather won £500k), I asked Chris Tarrant for his autograph after the show. He was horrible, really rude, arrogant and unpleasant. He just muttered that he would get someone to send one and didn't engage at all. Utterly awful man.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 13:34

My MIL used to work for the BBC years ago and said some of the celebrities she heard about were totally different in real life. Bruce Forsyth was supposedly horrible and really vile to people, quite self centred and mean.

If anything, I would say that Bruce wasn't necessarily all that different in real life - in that he hid his attitude and personality in plain sight on camera. He was always very snobbish with the contestants - these 'ordinary people' who needed to win stuff when he would presumably have just bought it outright. I'll never forget one episode of The Price Is Right, when a contestant with the surname Johnson was called down and he made a point of saying that he too was a Johnson (no comment), but they were double-barrelled Forsyth-Johnsons - "because WE had money". He double-bluffed that he was joking, but it never came across as a joke or self-deprecating in the least.

He made endless causally sexist and and misogynistic remarks to female contestants (often also unnecessarily 'helping' the younger ones to reach the equipment i.e. groping them). I may be confusing him for another gameshow host here, but I'm pretty sure it was him who, when the couple won a car and the woman went to sit in the driver's seat whilst her husband headed for the passenger seat (as it happened, she drove and he didn't), Bruce went to block her way and crossly told her that she had to get in the other side.

He rarely missed an opportunity to make belittling and rude remarks about any person with a remotely 'non-white' name. I don't think he was hateful towards non-white people (otherwise he wouldn't have married his wife), but he always 'othered' them and, as I perceived it, expected them to 'know their place'.

Plenty of gameshow hosts use a bit of gentle banter with the contestants - Joe Pasquale did when he did TPIR - but it's almost always good-natured, goes both ways and done with a twinkle in their eye. Apart from the odious Barrymore, that is.

Notanotherusername4321 · 30/10/2022 13:58

When I was in the audience aged 18 of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire (about 20 odd years ago when my godfather won £500k), I asked Chris Tarrant for his autograph after the show. He was horrible, really rude, arrogant and unpleasant. He just muttered that he would get someone to send one and didn't engage at all. Utterly awful man

oh that’s sad. I met him as a very small child and he was lovely to me.

marktayloruk · 30/10/2022 17:04

Bruce's casual remarks were surely what was in.a less uptight era seen as either a joke or a compliment!

Zone2NorthLondon · 30/10/2022 17:47

marktayloruk · 30/10/2022 17:04

Bruce's casual remarks were surely what was in.a less uptight era seen as either a joke or a compliment!

No
because casual sexism was a tolerated norm doesn’t make it ok
just means it’s was unacceptable behaviour that was normalised and categorised as funny, casual much like banter was used as a catch all to excuse and minimise inappropriate behaviour

EachandEveryone · 30/10/2022 17:53

Yes but thats looking back isnt it? We all loved him in our house they are such fond memories sitting around the telly on a Saturday night. They were different times.

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SirChenjins · 30/10/2022 18:21

marktayloruk · 30/10/2022 17:04

Bruce's casual remarks were surely what was in.a less uptight era seen as either a joke or a compliment!

Are you trying to reframe misogynistic, racist and bigoted as ‘less uptight’? I grew up in the 70s and whilst I have fond memories of Saturday night TV with my family because it was part a lovely childhood I also remember feeling very uncomfortable with what we witnessed as were growing up - and it was my generation that pushed for this to change. We knew it was wrong.

Autumnnewname · 30/10/2022 18:26

NooNooHead1981 · 30/10/2022 08:52

My DM has met various celebrities and said hi to Orlando Bloom when we met him outside the theatre in London after a play he was in. He said hello back and seemed pretty cheerful.

I think she sat next to Robert Carlisle on a flight once and chatted away to him for a while. Apparently he was a really lovely person.

My MIL used to work for the BBC years ago and said some of the celebrities she heard about were totally different in real life. Bruce Forsyth was supposedly horrible and really vile to people, quite self centred and mean.

I've never heard anything good about Forsyth.

Notanotherusername4321 · 30/10/2022 18:31

Yes but thats looking back isnt it? We all loved him in our house they are such fond memories sitting around the telly on a Saturday night. They were different times

It’s not looking back at all. I’ve always disliked him. Barrymore as well. Anyone who used “humour” to put people down and point out how superior they were.

see also Chris evans and Chris moyles. It wasn’t funny, it was bullying.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 19:12

Bruce's casual remarks were surely what was in.a less uptight era seen as either a joke or a compliment!

You think going in all handsy to a woman or affecting a 'foreign' accent when talking to an Asian person was a good thing?

The problem was that HE probably did see them as jokes or compliments, but you always have to remember the balance of power when you're a household-name celebrity and it's a stranger's first (and probably only) time on telly.

A lot of what Brucie did was not that different in principle from a builder shouting at you to 'get 'em out for the lads' or Nigel from Accounts trying to touch you up at the works Christmas party - except you couldn't ignore or swear back at him, or report him; you actually had to make out that you were enjoying it and found it truly hilarious and flattering.

marktayloruk · 30/10/2022 19:12

What's wrong with telling somebody they look good or cracking a joke? When it comes to.humour- anything goes.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 19:16

I agree that some of the questions on gameshows like 'Play Your Cards Right' were deliberately cheeky and seaside-postcardy and relatively harmless in a way that probably wouldn't get made nowadays, and everybody knew the score and laughed along; but not when he got personal.

In fact, if anything, on that especially innuendo-laden show, he deliberately held back on touching up the female contestants - I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that they were there on the show with their husbands and partners....

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 19:21

What's wrong with telling somebody they look good or cracking a joke? When it comes to.humour- anything goes.

Have you seen a lot of Brucie's old gameshows? It was rarely just a friendly compliment.

I would say that, when it comes to humour, maybe anything goes when both sides are finding it funny. So many bullies use the 'I was only joking - can't you take a little joke?' line as a way to slap down and silence their targets, especially when negging somebody.

Romeiswheretheheartis · 30/10/2022 19:37

Yes but thats looking back isnt it? We all loved him in our house they are such fond memories sitting around the telly on a Saturday night. They were different times

No, I can clearly remember being very young watching the Generation Game or the Price is Right and feeling that I wouldn't want to go on them and be on the receiving end of Bruce's 'banter' - it always felt like he was laughing at, not with, the contestants.

I remember him on Strictly when anyone had any sort of 'foreign' name, he'd make a big thing of mispronouncing it. Really not funny.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/10/2022 19:51

I wonder if Bruce was bitter about the fact that, after being a highly-regarded variety star in his younger years, for the last decades of his life, he'd become typecast as 'just' a gameshow host. Even so, nobody forced him to take the jobs.... erm, hosting all of those gameshows!

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/10/2022 20:56

Notanotherusername4321 · 30/10/2022 18:31

Yes but thats looking back isnt it? We all loved him in our house they are such fond memories sitting around the telly on a Saturday night. They were different times

It’s not looking back at all. I’ve always disliked him. Barrymore as well. Anyone who used “humour” to put people down and point out how superior they were.

see also Chris evans and Chris moyles. It wasn’t funny, it was bullying.

Agree - it IS bullying.

The people they are picking on are at a huge disadvantage - they are out of their comfort zone while the presenters is used to the studio and cameras, and of course - the presenters are "stars".

I never liked Forsyth, Tarrant or Barrymore - have never watched Moyles so can't comment