Is anyone else just totally fucking fed up with it all now...

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I'm probably going through some hormonal changes which isn't helping my mood 😔 but the last few years has been been proper shit and now the foreseeable future looks shit too. I just feel demotivated and overworked, underpaid and stretched as are my colleagues. Food and fuel prices are rediculous and I actually feel sick everytime I go to the supermarket. I can't get a doctors appointment, my dentist has gone private without telling me. Public transport where I live is diabolical buses aren't turning up yet I'm paying £60 a month for my schools bus pass, taxis are charging the earth if you can get one and then refusing to do long distances. The council think it's a good idea to do road works all at once causing more chaos and stress in the mornings so everyday feels like I'm playing road blocks. Im now anxious and stressed about rising interest rates and pissed off that I probably won't afford a holiday again for the 4th year because I'm just trying to survive and make it through the day/month or fucking year!

My parents vote Conservative. They both left school at 14, solid working class, never pick up a book. Totally clueless, paid pennies for their council house, can't comprehend why we are worried about our mortgage. This is how our country is fucked, I love them, but fucking clueless. Nasty

We get the government we deserve.

People have happily voted Tory whilst it was only the poor and disabled being shit on 🤷🏻‍♀️

We get the government we deserve

No we don't. I've never voted for a Conservative goverment so I'm not sure why I deserve it and neither do all the under 18s who can't vote.

We get the government we deserve

Also even back in 2019, deemed to be a great landslide victory for the Conservatives, out of 47,568,611 registered to vote (out of a population of approximately 68,500,000). There was a 67% turnout, so approximately 31,900,000 people voted. Out of them 13,966,454 voted Conservative. 10,269,051 voted Labour. So only about 20% of the entire population positively wanted a Conservative goverment.

I think we deserve a better political system with fair representation and a better government.

And a better ‘politically’ educated population who actually understand what they are voting for, rather than toxic headline grabbing lies.

Whilst I agree, your figures show a massive number who didn't bother to vote at all - doing nothing is just as bad as doing something which detrimentally affects the poorest. My mum didn't vote because 'they're all the same' - she's in a red-wall area which is now blue. She didn't vote for them, but she didn't do anything to stop them either. The apathy in this country is depressing.

Even now we're in crisis any talk of doing anything to disrupt the status quo is mocked on here.

People being concerned now has a whiff of 'Russian men deserting Russia' about it. People have been happy to believe those in poverty are that way because of their own failings - now people are seeing that their own situations are being detrimentally affected by government policies, through no fault of their own, then they are suddenly taking notice. Where the fuck was the outcry even 10 years ago?

I used to be a SW and seen EXTREME poverty; people being sanctioned for fuck all - people not being able to afford to put money on their electric keys - having to ask social services for a tenner to buy their kids shoes....I've never been a SW whilst Theresa May/Boris Johnson/Liz Truss were PM. These issues are not new, they're just affecting more people now - not just the 'undeserving'.

People happily voted for Boris Johnson not so long ago, and the man has never pretended to be any better than he is - people will overlook inequality until it affects them.

@derxa

No, it's not nasty at all. I've said in a following post how much I love them, but they are clueless.
I told my Mum how much we were worried about the mortgage yesterday and she said well we don't have to worry about that and carried on talking about her exercise classes. We went through hard times when I was a child, but she just seems to have forgotten it all. Talks about scroungers on benefits etc.

I think we have the same mum @ByTheGrace 🙄😅

Anyone who seriously thinks we are in one of the worse countries in the world needs a large reality check.

It's not a race to the bottom though. This is like saying my husband is a good man as he doesn't beat me, or eat your plate of plain value pasta and don't complain as there are children starving in some countries.

It's the 'never pick up a book' line I was objecting to

My siblings are like your parents ' by the Grace '
They do read , but they are blinkered by lots of things and quick to judge.
Nice people , but just a bit narrow minded at times.

Why? It's true. My Dad reads the DM, in my entire life I've never seen him read a book. I bought him a book on something he loves, mainly photographs, he just put it to one side, as a teen he used to berate me for wasting my money on books. Some people don't value education, that's just the way it is.

My dad is the same. I love him to bits and he is probably the kindest and most generous man I know. He would do anything for us. But he has read nothing but the Daily Mail for decades, and this inevitably colours his view of the world and of domestic politics. He grew up in a working-class household but then married my mum who came from a wealthy background. He has worked hard, no doubt, but he's also benefited hugely from being bought a house in south-east England in the early 70s (my grandparents paid for it), making lots of money on that, retiring on a good pension and the proceeds of investments etc. He votes Tory, supports Brexit and repeats DM headlines as if they are gospel.

Yesterday he was shocked to find there were no bananas in Sainsbury's. I just said 'oh, how awful' and moved on, because I can't bring myself to have the conversation with him as to why the shelves might be emptier than they were a few years ago. I adore him, but when he huffs and puffs about ''making our own laws' and is confused about why I've taken on extra hours at work, I just want to scream.

And it's perfectly legitimate to note that plenty of people genuinely don't read anything but shitty right-wing newspapers. Especially when you've known and grown up with those people all your life!

So he managed to buy a house cheaply. Your DF and DM are still together. His daughter (?) got an education, has a mortgage and a stable relationship.
My DM went to university in the 1950s then taught for a while. She married my DF and never picked up another book. So what?

Exactly, so what! its not being nasty to state the truth.

My ex in laws, are very similar, quite racist and right wing, voted Tory their entire lives BUT now elderly and unable to get care & having to fork out '000s on private medicine, they have recently become labour supporters.

Fair enough but they certainly didn't care about others when their voting choices didn't effect them negatively, what they used to say was "well, they should get a better job/work harder/have less kids..." frankly they have never given a shit about anyone but themselves.

You seem to have really seized on one part of my post and assumed a lot from the rest of it.
You learn about the world from books, he never leaves his very narrow bubble, gets his education from a right wing rag and has some fairly unpleasant opinions.

Not even sure why I'm justifying my comment to some random on the Internet.

The obsession with academic achievement on MN never ceases to amaze me. The House of Commons is packed with Oxbridge graduates. It doesn't stop some of them from being clueless, racist, criminal and sexist. And that's in all parties

Agree with OP things feel very grey and relentless right now, for everyone. Even if you are personally okay with bills etc it feels like things 'don't work' - my 84 year old dad fell over and had to wait so long for an ambulance he gave up and cancelled it despite perhaps having broken something. I also agree that we have done this to ourselves to an extent regarding Brexit.

Overall though the lives we live aren't sustainable. We can't expect to pay a pound for a t shirt made on the other side of the world and not pay for that somewhere else, in our case the climate as we're shipping stuff and ourselves unnecessarily around the world and pumping carbon into the air. I guess what I am saying is there are increasingly global issues at play creating more difficulties generally. I mean Pakistan as a country is looking pretty fucked, where are all those people going to live eventually? Can you blame any woman in Afghanistan anting to leave and come to the UK or go anywhere else? I can't.

The tools we have to tackle these issues are also no longer working. Growth at any cost is now shown to actually have a pretty big cost. It's time we/ this country all re-evaluated what is 'enough' and actually sustainable, and to start a journey towards that. Pretty certain it would mean we have less overall in future and probably less choice but something has to give.

Labour party/ a new government isn't going to change that overall trajectory and the tough choices we have to make. I do think there will be light at the end of the tunnel though, once we feel like we have a shared direction towards some form a new way of living. Perhaps one that recognises kind TAs rather than overpaid hedge fund types.

You learn about the world from books Do you?

The obsession with academic achievement on MN never ceases to amaze me.

I'm talking about reading a bloody book not about having a PHD from Oxbridge! I don't have a degree either.

I'm letting this go now as you obviously have a bee in your bonnet on this one subject, which is derailing the thread.

No one except you is talking about academic achievement, @derxa. There's a chasm between education meaning 'academic achievement' and education meaning 'developing a wider understanding of the world through seeking out differing opinions and experiences'. One of the ways - not the only way - to do the latter is via reading something other than the same damn newspaper every day for 50 years.

Your posts are so obtuse. It's laughable that you constantly pop up on these threads berating people for being narrow-minded when you bang the same bloody drum over and over and over again yourself whilst making ridiculous assumptions about people's lives and motivations.

Maybe but most of em come from the Tory party... seriously, of course academic achievement should carry some weight.

Do you want people running the country that are illiterate, innumerate? having said that, Kwasi seems to be both, unable to communicate his plans and can't show his workings.

There's a chasm between education meaning 'academic achievement' and education meaning 'developing a wider understanding of the world through seeking out differing opinions and experiences'. But a good majority on MN do not 'seek out differing opinions'. They regurgitate the Guardian and James O'Brien view of the world ad infinitum. Hence the terrible shock when Brexit happened.