Thread 15. Big Dog has been rehomed but we still need a poop scooper.

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New thread.
Link to old:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4624784-big-dog-going-going-not-quite-gone-thread-14?page=10&reply=120289662

Hopefully I've done this so it works.

Yeah you have to look at a range of different sources to try to gauge the way things are looking these days

That's encouraging.

Has anyone seen Ms Truss since Friday ?

Thank you, very kind of you to say so.

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On the 17% lead...

twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1574500957265838097

If this poll was repeated at a general election Labour would win a 182 seat majority
Conservative MPs losing their seats would include Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Iain Duncan Smith, Penny Mordaunt, Steve Baker, Grant Shapps, Andrea Leadsom, Andrea Jenkyns and Dominic Raab

Can you imagine how joyous that would be??

Weeeelll, she studied PPE . I read some stuff recently about the nature of the E element at Oxford. It isn't economics in the way one would study it at LSE or Warwick or Hull. (Inserts Blackadder reference for those of a certain vintage).

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It was a joke btw

I am having images of Janiie arguing with a paperbag about why it was fine for a 56 year old to have a birthday party and not children. Don't know why.

Well.... you know things are shit when Andrew Peirce is almost lost for words and flailing about trying to find just one thing, one tiny thing, to say is going OK. Then feebly not managing it and having to agree with Ed Balls
He looked like a bulldog chewing a wasp

Andrew Pierce bring list for words! Oh dear that is bad. He generally has lots to say.
You know what really winds me up ?
People shrugging over the interest rates hikes and saying ' well, we paid 15 percent ' or whatever. Yes, but you paid a fair price for your house 'back in the day' . I know where they are coming from, but why does it might it right ? It doesn't. You can't really compare.
A hike along with the cost of living and energy costs will be a disaster for many.
Why can't the young or those with mortgages have any sympathy at all ?
I'm not young myself, but I feel sorry for them.

Important and damning thread. Summers was Treasury Secretary under Clinton and National Economic Council president under Obama. He understands this stuff better than most.

twitter.com/LHSummers/status/1574586690869641216?t=y5GGAaxkscyJwVjtRtRMuw&s=19
I was very pessimistic about the consequences of utterly irresponsible UK policy on Friday. But, I did not expect markets to get so bad so fast.

A strong tendency for long rates to go up as the currency goes down is a hallmark of situations where credibility has been lost.

Scary stuff. Sir Charlie Bean, ex bank of England tells @BBCr4today: "It now costs the UK govt more to borrow than Italy or Greece, who we've traditionally thought of as not quite basket cases but certainly weaker performing sovereignentities."
twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1574661433224089600?t=8Y6qjoeHhMoCZ-rDVgfwXw&s=19

"Crispin Odey, hedge fund manager and Tory donor, tells FT he's been running short positions against the pound & gilts for some time

He says market has underestimated how long high inflation is here to stay

Odey described his bets against gilts as 'the gifts that keep on giving'

https://twitter.com/stevenswinford/status/1574697745595736067?s=46&t=p5MfGAxfTSjBEIQQ_WgwJ7w

Ah the very lovely Crispin!

A very good question! This from Sky News and Opinium; apparently her bounce is missing (if not Truss herself):

'No bounce' for Truss in polls
Liz Truss has not had a bounce in the polls after she took over as prime minister earlier this month.
Speaking to Kay Buley, Chris Curtis - the head of political polling at Opinium - spoke about recent surveys.
He said that "normally what you get with a new prime minister is a honeymoon period", with the leader "fairly popular at the start" and the public "willing to give a new prime minister the benefit of the doubt".
But Mr Curtis added: "That's not the case here."
It comes after a YouGov survey found the government was trailing Labour by 17 points.

I can imagine that Liz Truss is too busy cooking up some other pie in the sky policies to cut taxes even more to worry about any bounces or honeymoon periods.
Although I was curious yesterday that we didn't see her at all and hardly any politicians were on to defend the latest fiscal event apart from the chancellor. (Anyone seen Michael Gove ? )
She was out in a high vis on Friday morning. She has a stash of them to choose from left behind by Boris Johnson.
The party conference will be interesting.
Cheese and biscuits on the menu?

Well, she said she didn’t want to be popular - obviously that’s a stunning vote winning strategy - so she’s succeeding beyond her wildest dreams.

Yes @Roussette, deeply joyous. To the extent of completely eclipsing the ecstasy of May 1997. My face would break from smiling.

Govey, Govey, Govey.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63039558

55 Tufton Street: The other black door shaping British politics

The building houses organisations including the TaxPayers' Alliance and the Global Warming Policy Foundation - and is the former home of many others, such as Vote Leave and Brexit Central.

First? U-turn, Plan to pay Liz Truss’s chief of staff through firm is dropped after criticism

The thing is.... I hate to do an 'I told you so' (not to the lovely people on this thread, but to diehard Tories who couldn't see a thing wrong with BJ)... I just knew Truss would be a disaster.

I remember back well before BJ was ousted, when she was schmoozing MPs and Ministers in the faint hope she might have a chance at being PM. She took them out for a horrendously expensive meal, and then did a couple of 'Fizz with Liz' sessions... at that point, I went and looked into her, and my immediate thought was 'she would be a fucking disaster' but no matter, it isn't going to happen.

This article from July sums Liz Truss up. And to think a some wandering Tory on here called here a strong woman of steel who knows what she's doing. 🤣😂🤣

Ooooops. Here it is.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/30/liz-truss-profile-ambition-charm-thick-skin-thatcher

We do indeed know Truss is not worried about being popular.

Her MPs though? How are they feeling? There's being unpopular and there's losing your job.

Surely they know by now that they are going to be out of a job quite soon?

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