Thread 15. Big Dog has been rehomed but we still need a poop scooper.

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www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4624784-big-dog-going-going-not-quite-gone-thread-14?page=10&reply=120289662

Hopefully I've done this so it works.

Has the Johnson spell worn off

Nadine Dorries warns Tories will face landslide election defeat unless Liz Truss changes course
She criticises ‘cruel’ plans for real terms cuts to benefits & says Tories are abandoning centre ground to Labour

Steven Swinford Sky

twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1577777431674494984?t=jEZ7Sgp7pAtOM8Lld4Kvyg&s=19

^NEW:
Credit ratings agency Fitch cuts the outlook on the UK's rating from "stable" to "negative" following the mini Budget. Rating itself remains AA-
Says the change came despite the 45p u-turn. Adds that @KwasiKwarteng's comments abt further tax cuts contributed to the decision^

I agree but then nothing is likely to be getting better - the recent conservative convention barely raised a ripple about tackling the reality of what’s going on in the NHS. It’s down to pure luck whether anyone benefits from NHS care right now - it’s luck whether an ambulance can attend in time (I was recently told it was an 18 hour wait for an ambulance and it was 4 back over the summer - both for chest pain/breathing issues) luck whether someone gets in front of a HCP before their condition worsens etc.

I don’t feel the public are in much more danger if nurses/doctors strike than they are right now tbh. I just don’t think the majority realise it.

No I don't think the spell has worn off! She was referring to him as one the world's great leaders last week.
"It wasn’t her mistake that Conservative MPs removed Boris Johnson. But to remove his policies as well is a mistake."

But she is raising the point that Truss doesn't have a mandate to veer from the 2019 manifesto.

I always support the strikers.
If the government listen or not is another matter

A friend heard Dorries being interviewed a couple of days ago. She said it was like listening to Mrs Tishell talking about Doc Martin.

You are right Notonthestairs, I think I am just in shock hearing her not spouting pure nonsense. How low the bar is.

If the government listen or not is another matter

yes

I suppose it depends on how well they can get the message out that striking or not it’s the publics mortality that’s in danger. I think people have a wilful blindness to the realities until they’re in need of urgent care. Maybe this is the way to get across why conditions are important.

Didn't Liz Truss just say disruption was good a few days ago? That must apply to strikers as well as the "disruption" of her economic policies devaluing our currency, wiping £500billion of the value of share prices, costing £65billion to protect pension funds, and putting the mortgage rate up?

She said that change involves disruption. But some (little, ignorant, cowardly) people don't like change. However, in the fullness of time, if they trust her everyone will benefit from a lower standard of living.

JOB has posed an interesting question about the ‘new enemy’ - anti-growthers. I’m going to keep in mind the point that this was coined and told people who they should be hating. Nobody hated growth this time last week…

My diAry
by Liz Truss
Oct 6
Nadine's being horrid again. She says I lurch to the right. Listen up, Nadine, nearly evryones lurching to the right nowadays. Apart from the mob. The mob are horrid. They smell and go to bad schools. Suella says we're going to stop the mob. Hooray.

Michael Rosen

Excellent Twitter thread by Richard Murphy on why Truss' 'growth, growth, growth' is flawed.
twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1577904917519507457?t=IUB8bieT_8rEZyk0rU1xaQ&s=19

If only we had a real leader twitter.com/the_female_lead/status/1348976938354954242?t=7rFu1_2GyicArZ3R80UoVg&s=19

I'm just sick of the constant lying bullshit.

We were promised a high wage economy, then told not to ask for a pay rise.

They keep banging on about a low tax economy but most of us are worse off and paying more tax

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stealth-taxes-leave-average-household-1-450-poorer-analysis-finds-rlhtbcsn3?utmmedium=Social&utmm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1665032050

We were told we needed to leave the EU for UK sovereignty but now they're creating free ports and investment zones in which U.K. laws won't all apply.

Levelling up seems to mean levelling down.

Sound money seems to mean devaluing the currency, wiping £500billion off share prices and costing the country £65billion to save pension funds from the doom spiral caused by the government.

40 new hospitals does not in fact mean 40 new hospitals.

Growth means austerity.

I'm just sick of it all.

Austerity Mark 2 might be one of the nails in the coffin for them.
Was sent a film about the Russian connections today from Facebook
Nothing new on there really.
The whole system seems corrupt.
It's sad that it's ordinary people who suffer too

I know that mumsnet generally isn't keen, but I think that lisa Nandy came across well today on sky. Kay is a tough one to crack , but she held her own i thought.
I know her views don't go down well on this forum ( or haven't done historically)

NEW - FBU recommending firefighter members reject new pay offer of 5%. Another industry facing potential strike action.

I thought it was Angela Rayner who gets all the MN dislike,, do you know why Lisa Nandy is viewed that way?

Can anyone tell me how making everyone poorer by taxing them more, letting inflation take hold and put up the price of everything, letting the market dictate energy prices and committing the most stupid fuck ups that the mortgage rate goes up almost weekly will promote growth? If we've got less to spend the economy will contract surely?

How will putting trade barriers up between us and the most successful free trade area on earth which we do most of our trade with because it's on our doorstep promote growth?

How does cutting public spending promote growth? It just doesn't, right?

How does wiping £500billion off the U.K. share prices promote growth?

How does putting the mortgage rate up so that people start to be priced out and others can't sell promote growth?

How does allowing more air or water pollution in an investment zone promote growth? Growth in sick people?

It's all fucking nonsense isn't it?

Surely nobody is falling for it?

What earthly use is 5% when energy bills have gone up 60% and the mortgage is on an ever increasing death spiral every time our Prime Minister opens her mouth.

Because she believes transwomen are women and suggested that people who think woman = adult human female weren't welcome in labour.

Massive own goal as now a lot of labour voting women are considering voting tory as "at least they know what a woman is"

And fertile ground for the conservatives attempt at aculture war

“Knowing what a woman is” comes way down your list of priorities when you can’t pay your mortgage, heat your house or feed your kids. It might have been an electoral issue a year ago, it won’t be when we go to the polling station - which can’t be soon enough. Never thought I’d agree with Dorries on anything.

I was thinking about the ‘what is a woman’ question the other day. Considering conservatives don’t seem to know what a Tory is these days I don’t put much stock in any of their other definitions.

Meanwhile gilts are heading into the danger zone again, rapidly.

£ falling once again.

How to write off an economy in a matter of days, with batshit policy delivered by a crooked bunch of self serving charlatans.

National Grid warns households could face three-hour power cuts this winter if Russia shuts off gas supplies and UK has a cold snap.
However, National Grid stresses it is “cautiously confident” there will be enough electricity to meet demands of businesses and consumers this winter.

Truss was warned about this but unlike other countries has taken no action.