Worried again re the B's aka Putins sick threats

[Raul57]

I was awfully worried first time around re Putins nuke threats.

This time around I'm more worried as Putin is in a corner and our PM is known for blabbering stuff.

From wht I can see most of the Russian troops do not want to fight and not becuse they don't have guts but the real reason that they know this invasion is a sham

I've read on various sites some Russians are leaving Moscow etc as many more ex service men being called up.

Both sides have lost many people inc children.

I blame both sides but more so Putin as he is a nasty, weak, decrepit b.
You will always get people disagree with the other EG Scotland we speak the same lingo, eat the same food, look the same but imagine if Scotland had its own armed militias as you get extremists on both sides. Look at NI.

A fact not all are aware of the previous PM in the Ukraine was pro Russia and during the elections USA senetaros aka MP's were over in the Ukraine when the current PM won. Imagine Scotland having another referendum and we had MP's from China and Russia wooing the Scots. For this reason I blame the west.

Politics is a dirty game and the losers are the ordianry people inc most of the soldiers who only joined up to earn a living.

I bet you if Putin, Truss, Binden were pushed to the front line to lead the charge, they would soon change their minds re fighting and talk as would most other world leaders

As Russian media is more heavily controlled than ours, I can appreciate many of the Russians hearing about X wanting a referendum and joining Russia to protect it's people - this is what the west is doing protecting Ukraine from evil Putin and a lot of Russians see it like that for their side mainly due to the mis-info served up by Putin and his B's

To be in Russia and stand up to Putin could result in jail or worse and I'm sure that even many at the top want Putin out but too fearful to say anyhting

I fear a misunderstanding and as Tuss has a big mouth and rarely does anything quietly re Ukraine, I fear that England is a bigger target, main target for Putin and if we were nuked, I bet you USA and France would hold off in the hope of do nothing and be safe.

I'm not sure what to do but fearful especially for our children and grandkids.

There is also a massive possibility of a nuclear power stattion being hit in the Ukraine and this will affect the west and Russia but as we all know, Putin does not care he and his cronies will be safe just like other world leaders

If I was younger, I'd be on thestreets demanding all world leaders in the even of conflict led from the front on the front line and I'm confident the world would be a safer place as most of them are armchair woarriors and have bukers full to the brim with food/meds/etc.

Actually I'm very angry and I don't often wish this but I hope someone takes out Putin then after that both sides behave and not meddle in another country (Just look at what Libya has been turned into as well as Iraq - they may have had leaders our lot were not happy with just like they were not happy with ours but the countries are now dustbins and millions are suffering)

@Ladyofthemanor11 I am glad I am not alone!

I don't worry about things I can't control 🤣 it's how I get through life.

I'm in no way shape or form, in a position to stop a nuke coming at me from Russia, therefore I don't worry about it. If it happens, not my fault, if it doesn't happen great, but I had nothing to do with that.

All I hope is if a nuke is sent, I can die instantly rather than weeks later if radiation poisoning please.

France and the USA ie the only others with nukes will cower when the uk is nuked in the hope they are not directly targeted, trust me.

Fortunately for the UK it doesn't matter what France and the US would or wouldn't do in such circumstances.

Russia would be screwed given the UK and Trident.....and that will be something Russian decision makers will be very much taking into consideration.

Russian does not need to send nukes.The UK government are doing a fine job of destroying our country on their own.

No, it is about self preservation. If putin and his cronies did attack the uk like I said, frand and usa would sit on their hands waiting and watching in the hope non are launched at them.

Putin and his cronies will then be taken out by his own and this would be another chapter in world history where the planet was nearly nuked to kingdom come but saved by the french and usa looking at the bigger picture.

I fear a misunderstanding, false flag launch, computer hack etc resulting in nukes being launched.

The sooner this is resolved the better and in the short term the only way to stop putin is to negotiate then build on that and remove putin and his like via his own people and build up defences that does not allow stuff like russia walking into the crimea happening again

Please syop. Russia is a massive count, close to 40% of the world's landmass. How do you know all of our nukes work, you don't but russia has close to 6500 nukes we have 124 - work the percentages and the landmass.

We are in very dangerous times, especially with an fully incompetent big mouthed leader in number 10.

To stop any dispute one needs to be diplomatic and Truss clearly lacks diplomatic skills and the russians hate her

The real deals are behind doors but truss has a way of upsetting most.

No I won't stop.....nobody made you thread police and sometimes some rationality and a few facts them need to be injected into the debate.

The whole raison d'etre of the UK Independent Strategic Deterrent, right from the days of the V-Force through Polaris through Trident was to prevent exactly the sort of scenario you and others seem to be wanting to deliberately try and frighten people with - the UK being isolated and left standing alone whilst US/France/NATO decide not to act.

Rightly or wrongly a lot of cash has been spent over the decades making sure the UK deterrent remains credible and most especially would be effective against the Russian capital (cf. the Moscow Criterion), command and control centers and other places of interests.

You have no idea what percentage of the UK system (or the Russian system) would work, I don't, and nobody who knows the current nuts and bolts of this would be posting here...

Fundamentally the Russians trying to take on the UK on it's own is likely to lead to national disaster for them as well as us, the politicians will know that, and that should be seen a some form of reassurance, albeit perhaps minor, for those in the UK hearing some of the alarming stories doing the rounds.

Ignoring or playing down the UKs capability in this context in this conflict is scaremongering (at best)..

Who’s a Russian bot?

Why is the UK being targeted? I know Liz big mouth Truss is not helping ! I am wondering whether to take the kids and get the hell out of it whilst we can , a few months in New Zealand perhaps 😂 None of my friends mention it at all , ignorance is bliss as they say !!

But where would you go after a few months in New Zealand? There'd be nothing left of the UK, or anywhere for that matter.

I know 😞