Harry - regretful?

[Brasschamberstick]

Do we think after seeing the magnificence of yesterday that he is regretting giving it all up?

He looks so angry and unhappy all the time now?

I don’t think you worried about Harry at all. I think you’re another poster that doesn’t like him.

He should apologise for his past comments and behaviour. I’m sure he’s a changed man now but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t apologise. It also doesn’t mean that his family did not make racist comments or that he shouldn’t tell people.

@daisychain01
So is the following youthful folly? I don't think there ever was a public inquiry into Harry's behaviour,
The Equality and Human Rights Commission has demanded a formal inquiry into the prince's behaviour (Prince Harry) , and Muslim groups and leading MPs have warned the comments could increase tensions with Islamic groups in the UK.
Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Perry Barr in Birmingham, said: "This might have been said in a lighthearted manner but ultimately it's offensive to a lot of people.
"He needs to understand that this is not acceptable, especially in light of the office that he is going to hold in the army and as a member of the royal family."
The film will infuriate army chiefs, who are actively trying to recruit Muslims as intelligence officers and translators for the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. Staff officers have insisted the army's policy must be "zero tolerance to all forms of discrimination". But the casual use of racist terms by the prince, who was promoted to lieutenant last year, appears to add weight to recent claims by a Jamaican-born soldier that he faced regular racist abuse from non-commissioned and senior officers.

I thought it was documented that Harry did want to walk behind his mother's coffin and William didn't. Thats when Prince Philip said he would walk with them?
Sadly one gets the impression that if this is true and Harry had been denied permission he may well have complained about that in later life.
I hope he can make a good life for himself with out making others unhappy in the process.

There was a lot of Prince Harry behaviour that was minimised. All credit to the RF for not retaliating.
Like most mothers I felt sympathy for Harry but it does seem hypocritical of him to ignore his past misdemeanours and go after anonymous members of the RF for racism without addressing his own behaviour.

I think he has made a lot of mistskes. However, only time will tell how the future will work out for him.

Good riddance to him. No one wants him here.

Speak for yourself

I expect Harry will get back home, stick his shorts on, roll around in the garden with the kids and think, 'Thank fuck that's over'.

I don't think he has any regrets. The life he had before emigrating with H&M every move being watched is what killed his mother. He didn't want to put his own wife and children through that. He might be sad at not being so close to family as he was. But he made a decision to walk away his from royal duties. I also don't agree the royal family took his security from them. Even though he's stepped down he could still a target.

The difference being I guess that Philip was more intelligent in a century he made a few gaffes. Harry it's an ongoing gaffes festival

I loved Princess Diana but she died because she wasn't wearing her seat belt.
I am sure she was hounded by the press as Camilla was. I am sorry that Diana died but it could have been prevented if she wore a seat belt. We all wanted someone to blame and the press were convenient.

I agree.
I appreciate that there are very particular rules but, as Commander in Cheif, Charles could have overruled those. So, to make him wear a morning suit like Andrew, when Harry has done 2 tours, yet allow Edward to wear his uniform after 6 weeks in the Marines many years ago certainly LOOKED spiteful & meanminded.
Whether it felt that way to PH I cannot say.
I do wish him & his family all the best though.
He lost his Mother in the most appalling way when he was so young.
Being made to walk behind her coffin was appalling imo.
I hope he can find peace in his life.

I don’t think any racism should be ignored. Philip was a racist cunt and got away with it his whole life. Why? They certainly seem to be a family that display racist behaviour, Philip, Harry and the person that made comments about Harry’s child. No surprises Harry displayed that sort of behaviour when Grandad Philip did. And I’d be surprised if it missed a whole generation. These sort of views tend to get passed down from generation to generation unfortunately. Hopefully with Harry marrying a black woman and talking about how upset the racist comments were to him, that cycle will be broken on his part of the family tree at least.

I think the topic of racism in the royal family needs discussing, not covering up. Harry should talk about his past behaviours along with those of his family. I suppose then he’d be in trouble for speaking badly of a dead man. 🙄 I hope he names the person that was racist about his child, anyone that is racist doesn’t deserve to be covered up for.

I'm just a little younger than Princess Di. She was actively courting the paparazzi in the weeks before she died. That all seems to be forgotten. She was a lovely woman who did some great things but she wasn't a saint. She died because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt in a car which was being driven too fast by a driver who had been drinking. It isn't helpful to anyone, especially Harry, to make her out as some kind of saint who was hounded by the press to her death.

At 12, it’s not a choice he should have been making. Family make decisions like that for children because they can not possibly understand the enormity of the decision.

I noticed that no one spoke to her even before her revelations about the family, Oprah etc. You never used to see Camilla chatting to her for example. Doesn't look like she was spoken to much this time either, Sophie spent the car journey looking out the wjndow! If William can offer an olive branch to them why can't the women. I guess no one could ever live up to saint kate and her perfect children.

Charles couldn't bend the rules for Harry and not for Andrew, who served 22 years with the RN, including the Falklands.

Plenty ex-servicepeople would like to wear their uniform but aren't allowed to because that's the rules.

I'm just a little younger than Princess Di. She was actively courting the paparazzi in the weeks before she died

Sure, but that was after 2 decades of being relentlessly pursued and harassed by the media. She had clearly decided that, as the media were never going to let up, she might as well try to exert some control over how they covered her. That is not the same as someone seeking celebrity for its own sake.

What makes you think they will separate? If anything it us William and Kate who look like they are separated. They can barely stand to be in each others presence. Their body language gives "not together " vibes.

Harry had plenty of opportunity to pick an 'Arabella from the Home Counties' type. He must've gone out with loads. But he chose someone he met in the US who didn't know who he was; a mixed-race woman who was also used to being in the public eye. I think he knew exactly what he was doing. He also knew the treatment she would likely get from the UK tabloids, although did his best to stop them, but didn't succeed. The pair of them also didn't get the support they needed from the family/Establishment, as was evidenced at their wedding, the smirking at the Evangelical preacher, for example. He just hasn't found a niche in his new life yet.

People smirked at the evangelical preacher because it seemed as if he was never going to stop! That was the reason. He just went on and on, for longer than he was meant to.

Yep this. Totally agree with @DillDanding (great name, BTW!🤣)

None of the RF were laughing, chatting or even smiling (understandably) yesterday, so the idea that Meghan was being excluded for her 'misdemeanours' seems a bit of a stretch. I don't know all the ins and outs of what they are supposed to have said and done, but if you have a fractious relationship with your family, events like this can be difficult at the best of times. The laser focus on every move they make and every facial expression must be wearing at the very least.

He's probably knackered and ready to go home. And who would blame him? They're not the only members of the RF to have made public criticism of another, yet they have been absolutely torn apart by our press. I would imagine that very few of us on here will have had any actual dealings with any of the royal family, so likely very few, if any, of us really know what they are like or what has in reality gone on between them.

Absolute rubbish . William and Catherine look totally at ease with each other.

It looked incredibly disrespectful.