The Queens funeral 3

[KenAdams]

Again, thread 2 has filled up fast.

I just meant that the military are trained to work through stuff like that .

It’s Johann Heinrich Walch

George VI had the date arranged for Edward VIII's coronation, that's why there was only a short gap, December to May I think, so it was January 1936 to May 1937

She has looked extremely sad in every shot I’ve seen her in

The idea is if you feel yourself going aim to focus on falling straight forward, as stiff to attention as you can, with your weapon moved slightly out to the side so that you don't impale yourself on it as you do down or injure others by flailing in an unexpected direction.

They do so much drilling that I imagine many have experienced that woozy feeling and have tried to mentally train themselves to do this. You'll notice the ones who do go down usually manage it.

There’s a photo of Sophie and Edward that has just really got me, I’m not sure exactly when it was taken, but he looks so completely heartbroken.

I hope the private family service this evening has given them all the opportunity to finally release some of the emotion of the day, and share precious memories.

As things stand the Counsellors of State are William, Harry, Andrew and Beatrice. I think that could change, bring Anne in at least in place of Andrew and Edward in place of Harry.

It’s not surprising that Camilla, Charles and Anne are looking exhausted. They are all over 70 and have been through a huge emotional upheaval and a very busy schedule. People were saying that the Duke of Gloucester showed determination doing the walk. He’s only 3 years older than Camilla. They will probably look less drawn after a few days rest.

I will miss her speeches. She always knew what to say.
As Her Majesty said in one of her more recent quotes ;“ Grief is the price we pay for love”

I think about this all the time since lockdown and the ceremony today did also serve as a reminder of this

This would make sense - the Counsellors of State are supposed to stand in for the monarch when necessary, and Andrew & Harry wouldn’t be able to do that, so better the roles are filled by others who can

They did …….

Chelsey Davy and Earl Spencer were both at the service in Windsor.

During the Edinburgh events one old gentleman was interviewed and he tearfully said I swore allegiance to her 50 years ago, and he gave the smartest salute, that really set me off. The link with the military is so important, their allegiance is to the sovereign, not some here today, gone tomorrow politico.

She also said it after 9/11, via her representative in the US at a service, I remember.

Changing Counsellors of State to working royals only would create a major problem for William if his father dies before George is 18 and Charlotte 21.

If Charles died this year then William would be left with Kate, Anne, Edward, the Duke of Gloucester and Princess Alexandra as currently working royals.

Given that they always have to work in pairs and can only do very strict things it would be a tricky thing to change without having a potentially negative impact on William.

Camilla and William would be the two used on most occasions. William and Beatrice would only happen if the shit hits the fan in a big way with Charles and Camilla.

For those who asked upthread, a previous poster described it well. The royal vault is a huge room with many royal coffins interred within in, on what are basically caged/gated shelves on either side. It’s HUGE - with steps going down. Like another small hall.

St George’s also has some smaller vaults - these are accessed I believe BOTH from the main royal vault, and by their own plaques in the floor above. They are like small chambers. Jayne Seymour and Henry are in a smaller one.

Then there is another smaller one with the Queens parents and sister in. This evening Prince Phillip will be moved from the main Royal Vault to the one with the Queens parents and the Queen.

this photos is the royal vault with the Kings coffin in, prior to internment in his own kings vault. You can see how huge the area is.

How odd that something the forces are trained to do on parade (all parades I should imagine, not just royal ones) should turn you against the monarchy so fast when I'm fairly sure it wasn't the Queen training them!

Earl Spencer was one of the Queen’s godchildren.

I'm still struggling to find out what the lovely music is that's played at the beginning and end of all the BBC programmes about the Queen over the last 10 days. Anybody?

I think it's Nuvole Bianche, Ludovico Einaudi.

I confess I Shazammed this morning as I found it so beautiful.

Not 100% as I only caught a bit of it but think it might have been Ludovico Einaudi - I Giorni?

Not all parades - in some the direction is to take a knee rather than fall down, our Officer graduation parades are one of those, possibly because we all have swords so the risk of injury to self/others is slightly different than when you’re carrying a rifle. I couldn’t actually tell you the policy behind it but maybe someone else knows.

Whoops, meant to reply to someone asking about the BBC music. Ignore me, long day.

I’m watching Miss Marple, they’re playing Nimrod for the ad breaks, it’s lovely.

Interesting how similar it was to her father's funeral - but then it was a train from Paddington to Windsor rather than the car.