Shame the female royals didn't walk too

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Kudos to Anne who went against tradition and stood up front with her brothers and walked (and also to all the grandchildren who did the vigil) but it's a shame to see all the other females in the funeral stay crawling slowly in a car while all the men walked, just seems so old fashioned (particularly when Anne has gone against it and she is the eldest female!!)

I don't think it was sexist. I'm guessing they were asked but chose not to. There are other male royals with higher status than those who did walk who didn't take part either. I wouldn't want to walk it either, nor would I allow myself to be pressured into it to "make a statement" at a funeral.

• others say "&(^% that tradition"

Go back to Churchill's funeral (in my lifetime) and see if you can spot a female Bishop participating in the service, or a female officer giving words of command to men, or female naval ratings pulling the gun carriage (only some examples from the last few days) We're not there yet but a lot closer.

Good on Anne for breaking the mould and walking but it would be performative if the other ladies "had" to, just for the look of it.

No they didn't.

There were lots of Women involved - Women lead the whole thing on their Police horses on both occasions. There was a Female CRMP, Women were amongst the Horse Guards the other day, also amongst the Naval ratings actually pulling the gun carriage.

Only the pall bearers were all Male, for obvious reasons.

There are other male royals with higher status than those who did walk who didn't take part either.

Who? The only male family members who are ranked higher than anyone who walked are children.

It is quite obvious that the women family members did not walk because they are women.

There were many women involved in all roles..and two who walked the whole way at the front..not sure if they were in heels though .

It's protocol.
The ' it's sexist ' shit spouted on here is exactly that....shit!.
Some people just love to be offended when there's nothing to be offended about.

They never take a blooming day off, do they?

Ooh, touchy. You’re confusing making conversation with being offended.

The Duke of Kent didn't walk. No one from his family did from what I saw. Sir Tim Laurence walked. He isn't a royal. He isn't the father of any royals.

Less women than men join the military. Stands to reason there would be less women today. It’s not an easy career and probably not great for families.

That too and take awkward photos of their faces to analyse their body language and make up some nonsense about this or that. I’m sure a lot of people would have taken it to be gospel when you see someone apparently smirking or giving the side eye etc. Also, body language “experts” would also focus on the minute detail and if they can find a video clip of one person not talking to another person, they’ll use that compared to clips of them having a small chat and next thing you know it will be about someone being iced out or something silly.

Are you a royal female? If not - what does it actually have to do with you? I'm so tired of these numerous threads with people projecting their feelings onto the royals. You don't know them, you don't know what they think, why do you need to waste time worrying about every imagined slight!

No. Just no. Anne walked. Good for her.

It's miles and miles, have you ever walked it? It's hard work walking just the Windsor bit!

Plus 'spot the women'? Bullshit. There were loads and loads of women in the parade, on horses, pulling the ropes of coffin, the there were loads of women in both churches, there were loads of women's speakers/readers in the church. All beautifully done. Magnificent. you're talking nonsense. Looking for something not there.

It was @Attictroll who said:

"The whole thing felt very white and male tbh. We were playing spot the woman in the parade."

Nonsense. Loads of women in the parade.

You must be joking. The entire ceremony is a message. That’s the whole point of public rituals that have been thought about and planned for years. This was not a private farewell to a family member.

Yeah it's still a man's world.

I would have been glad to have been able to go in the car rather than march

I'm sure anyone on this thread is welcome to join the forces to swell the female numbers, they would probably be glad of the applicants.

I imagine if they'd wanted to then they could have. Equally no judgement from me if they didn't choose to walk under the gaze of the world.

Op I get what you mean it's surprising none of the Granddaughters walked. It was the children and adult grandsons.

Controversial, could it be Bea & Eugenie are sort of tarred by their father less attention to that branch of the family the better, but Andrew walked.

Louise has always been kept out the spotlight so why start now when she's just 18?
Which then leaves Zara if the rest aren't walking why would she?

Maybe it's more simple the women didn't want to?

It hadn't occured to me that Peter was marching as he was the the eldest grandchild, I thought it was all the adult grandsons. Do we actually know which the reason was? It seems strange to me that you would limit grandchildren to only eldest/ most senior but then have a nephew and cousin marching who are less closely related and lower down royal pecking order than any grandchild.

However, I assumed that was all royal tradition so it didnt bother me so much. Its all archaic at the end of the day anyway.

What did bother me was that when other members of the family joined them at the cathedral to walk behind the coffin down the aisle, 2 grandaughters in law and 2 great grandchildren got to be in that role, when 5 actual grandchildren didn't. That seems odd as not an age or gender thing and to me the people walking behind are the 'chief morners' so I felt like Beatrice, zara etc were being sidelined for people like Meghan and Catherine. I get they are higher up the royal pecking order these days, but surely this was about family relationships or why were much more junior royals like Duke of Gloucester and Earl snowdon there?

Maybe they had a choice but all 5 of the female or under 18 grandchildren not wanting to walk down aisle behind seems unlikely. I was surprised I havent seen that more commented on.

@Simplelobsterhat do you mean at Westminster Abbey or St George's Chapel?

At WM the York girls walked in with husbands and Fergie behind them.

I believe he was the Queen's equerry and was close to her