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Anyone else feel Kate was born to be a royal?

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Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 11:22

Watching the Queen's coverage all week & Kate looks like she was born for the role. (Also please don't turn this into a Meghan bashing thread, Meghan is equally beautiful & elegant but has chosen to be a non working royal which is why this thread is about Kate).
Even looking back at old school photos she looked so poised & elegant. She had an idyllic childhood, supportive parents & is doing a wonderful job in her new role.

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deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:21

Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 11:33

@Samcro no I don't think she set out to marry one but I do think she was brought up in such a way that she would fit in anywhere & with anyone. She was obviously very middle class but I don't know many middle class women so suited to the role.
I do think her parents should be given credit, they must be awfully proud of their three children.
The eyes of the world are on the U. K & the duchess is doing us all proud as are the rest of the royal family (obviously barring Andrew.. however he should be allowed grieve for his mother)

Would you be proud of 3 children who have made it to 40 or near 40 barely having a job? Really? Different values I guess

Floralei · 15/09/2022 15:21

Kate has a really weird job and somehow makes it look easy, as though all it is, is smiling and having great hair. It’s not as easy as that, given constant criticism flung at you, your parents and siblings etc once the honeymoon is over.

when the photos of her topless were published in France while she was on a foreign tour with William, I really felt sorry for her and she just carried on like it was nothing and I wouldn’t personally have been able to carry it off. William was less able to contain himself but they got on with it.

Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 15:22

I must say I really like Lady Louise & her brother James, I think they will be very useful to the monarchy in later years & Lady Louise has grown up to be a beautiful, poised young woman.

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antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 15:22

William did not have a large choice of women to marry. Various aristocratic women he was interested in were not at all interested in joining the Royal Family. Why would they be? They get wealth and influence while being able to be themselves in public and with no media scrutiny.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 15/09/2022 15:23

Sorry posted too soon...

Obviously neither Zara or Anne could have done what they have if they had been heir but the reason they have had the successes they have compared to the York sisters isn't titles or position in the succession.

Zara is a more positive role model because she's followed her dreams to achieve something separate from her marriage and children and she's been successful even though she had no need to earn a living.

She doesn't cause any significant scandal but also isn't meek, quiet or bland. That's much more worthy of admiration and respect.

Oh and for the Zara fans, check out her topgear appearance, she does seem great fun!

breadandmillk · 15/09/2022 15:23

It is not about being 'bland'. What Kate embodies is someone who understands that; when on royal engagements ( i.e. at 'work' ); you are representing the monarchy; a spokesperson of the monarchy. Therefore you are charming; friendly and educated about the people, event or institution you happen to be visiting.

It is not about building a personal brand. You hope to present yourself well but it is not about you or your personal opinions or thoughts, or your personality. You must remain neutral. The attention should be on the people, event or institution you are visiting - not you.

I admire the ability to show up for work like this with the eyes of the world on you, and do so well to not show it if you are having a bad day etc... Not sure if I could do it.

I think it's the same with sportspeople / celebrities / any other famous spokespeople, even in commercial arrangements - when representing a brand or organisation you surely put your personal feelings aside and are as professional as possible. Your credibility ( and salary ) rests on your public reputation.

I do think that Kate, and the other members of the royal family (with only a few exceptions) do look as if they were born to the role, they make it look so easy but I don't think it is!

deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:23

Pinkpeony2 · 15/09/2022 11:44

She wasn’t born to be a royal no. Of course not.
She was born into a very wealthy family who’s wealth is old money and stretches back.
Her family are upper middle class and that also stretches back through previous generations.
Her family were wealthy enough to have the right family connections before she was even born, and then gave her the right opportunities.
She must have the right temperament too and how she conducts herself attracted William who will have been extremely well trained in who to involve in a serious relationship.
Once in the serious relationship she has been heavily trained and prepared and alongside that she has the temperament and personality which slots right in to the royal machine.
I love the phrase she is more royal than the royals 🤣
She seems like William to me in the female form! Can’t imagine a better match and I just love the fact she wasn’t born into royalty. It’s all learned and performed.

I think you are reading thru wrong story book. Her parents were firmly working class and low/middle middle. They (Carole) then set up a business that did well enough to send them to private schools. There is no fabulous wealth or fantastic connections that you speak of. Carole's family were positively common 'as muck'. They are people done good. Nothing wrong with that but you seem to have got an interesting alternative story going on

justasking111 · 15/09/2022 15:24

Spinninggyro · 15/09/2022 15:15

Well said Brightstar12. she is an intelligent, well educated woman who loves her family. She cares about young people, mental heath and supports healthcare. I don’t think she is bland at all.

Mental health isn't sexy. Diana chose high profile of the moment charities to support she dumped a lot of dull but worthy ones

Snoopsnoggysnog · 15/09/2022 15:27

ReneBumsWombats · 15/09/2022 12:24

I think a lot of people aren't aware that she was born into an upper middle class family with aristocratic links via her father, complete with trust funds. She wasn't born titled, but the gulf between her and royalty wasn't quite as large as I think a lot of people believe.

Yes this, they are not self made through party pieces.
there is no way that business funded 3 kids through Marlborough… they have old money and trust funds.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 15/09/2022 15:28

deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:23

I think you are reading thru wrong story book. Her parents were firmly working class and low/middle middle. They (Carole) then set up a business that did well enough to send them to private schools. There is no fabulous wealth or fantastic connections that you speak of. Carole's family were positively common 'as muck'. They are people done good. Nothing wrong with that but you seem to have got an interesting alternative story going on

This is not true. They were not working class!

Anon778833 · 15/09/2022 15:28

Although Kate isn’t aristocratic, her family does have gentry generations up. So her bloodlines are aristocratic. I don’t think she has an easy life and I also don’t get the impression that William is the perfect family man the tabloids make out.

susan12345678 · 15/09/2022 15:28

What Kate embodies is someone who understands that; when on royal engagements ( i.e. at 'work' ); you are representing the monarchy; a spokesperson of the monarchy. Therefore you are charming; friendly and educated about the people, event or institution you happen to be visiting

This is it. It absolutely IS work and it's work that very few people could do so well.
With her calm professionalism and intelligence, I'm sure Kate would have shone in any chosen career. The RF are incredibly lucky to have her.

LadyKenya · 15/09/2022 15:29

antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 15:02

I haven't seen anyone slagging off Kate.
The expectations on the other hand are mental.

Yes, I agree with you. That particular poster would never see it that way though. I have no need to wonder why.

Anon778833 · 15/09/2022 15:30

She’s a lot brighter than her husband though. Hopefully, the children inherit her brains as the Windsors aren’t known for their intellect.

deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:31

@Pinkpeony2 Michael came from a family like many people who once long ago had ancestor who once had money. Distant relatives were once titled. Heck even I did. Again like many people, In reality he came from a family that was much like the one he and Carole finally created. One that could manage to privately educated their kids but not properly wealthy. There was a 'trust fund' that afforded them the school fees. They didn't have the money themselves. The trust fund was no more than what many many families have where the grandparents through property price increases can pay for their grandchildren's school fees. You have read so much into his background that wasn't true. He was a flight dispatcher. She was cabin crew. These were not posh people.

Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 15:31

susan12345678 · 15/09/2022 15:28

What Kate embodies is someone who understands that; when on royal engagements ( i.e. at 'work' ); you are representing the monarchy; a spokesperson of the monarchy. Therefore you are charming; friendly and educated about the people, event or institution you happen to be visiting

This is it. It absolutely IS work and it's work that very few people could do so well.
With her calm professionalism and intelligence, I'm sure Kate would have shone in any chosen career. The RF are incredibly lucky to have her.

This & it explains why she dresses a certain way on duty. It's like wearing a suit to the office, the coat dresses etc are her "work clothes" her "on duty" wardrobe. They're non offensive & are probably comfortable for the role.

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antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 15:34

justasking111 · 15/09/2022 15:24

Mental health isn't sexy. Diana chose high profile of the moment charities to support she dumped a lot of dull but worthy ones

Catherine's interest is early years. Not high-profile, but very "safe". It is the equivalent of beauty queens saying they love children.
No need to have a go at Diana though. Diana got a lot of criticism for her controversial charity work.

deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:35

@Snoopsnoggysnog ffs Carole was VERY working class. She started life in a council house in southall. Her dad was a builder. Her ancestors were labourers and miners. Michael was not old money. His parents helped pay the kids school fees like thousands of others. He was a flight dispatcher. You have created a fairy tail

Numbat2022 · 15/09/2022 15:36

I think she made a very considered decision to make being Royal her life's work. She has essentially given up freedom of movement, anonymity and freedom of speech in return for wealth beyond anyone's wildest dreams, the opportunity to travel and meet some of the world's most interesting and influential people, and to be a part of history.

Personally it is not a life I would choose - not for me or my children. While it would be lovely to live in a castle and wear beautiful dresses, holiday in beautiful places, have access to anything you want any time you want it (including very, very good and subtle tweakments to make you more beautiful...) - I couldn't do it. I'm too cynical. I hate being centre of attention. I find it interesting because I'm the same age/school year as them (two months older than Kate) and my mum is the same as as Charles, so I can see our lives running in parallel.

She is doing a job she chose to do. She had the right set of ingredients to be chosen, but there are probably hundreds of women who were bred to do the same and have also married well and spend their lives having a small brood of children, splitting their lives between town and country, and doing charity work but without the public gaze.

Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 15:36

deedledeedledum · 15/09/2022 15:35

@Snoopsnoggysnog ffs Carole was VERY working class. She started life in a council house in southall. Her dad was a builder. Her ancestors were labourers and miners. Michael was not old money. His parents helped pay the kids school fees like thousands of others. He was a flight dispatcher. You have created a fairy tail

I don't think that's true about Carole or else she's a master of disguises. She seems very posh to me.

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AbsentinSpring · 15/09/2022 15:37

I've seen wax mannequins with more gumption, get-up-and-go, personality and substance than this woman

Nasty.

She's replicated the very happy family that she grew up in and is apparently happiest in the countryside with her husband, children and dogs. Smart woman to have created the life she wanted and that fulfills her.

Then when duty calls, she turns on the style and glamour and shows up taking an interest in whatever event she's attending and comfortably conversing with heads of state and ordinary folk.

I'm no sycophant but I admire her self discipline and self assurance and loathe the sneering towards her. It's so petty.

NippyWoowoo · 15/09/2022 15:38

ReneBumsWombats · 15/09/2022 14:54

She may be opinionated, loud and pushy.

You think she could have hidden that for this long? Even Meghan said she was a nice person.

You missed the point of the post you quoted.

Numbat2022 · 15/09/2022 15:38

Brightstar12 · 15/09/2022 15:36

I don't think that's true about Carole or else she's a master of disguises. She seems very posh to me.

Eh? It's well documented that she's not posh at all! Nothing wrong with that of course, but she is absolutely not posh.

Bugeyedowl · 15/09/2022 15:39

susan12345678 · 15/09/2022 15:02

@Bugeyedowl

Thanks for proving my point

I just don't think those comments are that nasty, not when compared with what's been said about Meghan, that's all.

Arbesque · 15/09/2022 15:41

AbsentinSpring · 15/09/2022 15:37

I've seen wax mannequins with more gumption, get-up-and-go, personality and substance than this woman

Nasty.

She's replicated the very happy family that she grew up in and is apparently happiest in the countryside with her husband, children and dogs. Smart woman to have created the life she wanted and that fulfills her.

Then when duty calls, she turns on the style and glamour and shows up taking an interest in whatever event she's attending and comfortably conversing with heads of state and ordinary folk.

I'm no sycophant but I admire her self discipline and self assurance and loathe the sneering towards her. It's so petty.

Exactly. Not everyone wants to be a high flying career woman. There's nothing wrong with a woman who has the means to do so devoting her time to her children, her family life and charity.