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Ukraine Invasion: Part 30

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MagicFox · 28/08/2022 09:05

We're now on our 30th thread, thanks as usual to all who contribute.

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Ijsbear · 16/09/2022 10:01

ISW Key Takeaways

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in eastern Ukraine.

The Kremlin is responding to the defeat around Kharkiv Oblast by doubling down on crypto-mobilization, rather than setting conditions for general mobilization.

The Kremlin has almost certainly drained a large proportion of the forces originally at Russian bases in former Soviet states since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began in February, likely weakening Russian influence in those states.

Russian and Ukrainian sources reported Ukrainian ground attacks northwest of Kharkiv City, near the Ukrainian bridgehead over the Inhulets River, and south of the Kherson-Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border.

Russian-appointed occupation officials and milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted a landing at the Kinsburn Spit (a narrow peninsula of the Crimean Peninsula).

Russian forces conducted limited ground assaults and are reinforcing positions on the Eastern Axis.

The Russian proxy Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) is likely attempting to stop its administrators from fleeing ahead of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, demonstrating the bureaucratic fragility of the DNR

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UK Int Update summary:

Wagner is recruiting prisoners, and Russian military academies are graduating cadets early. They seem to be very short of combat infantry and junior commanders

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⚡️Reuters: IAEA board resolution calls on Russia to leave Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.

CNN: US ‘not inclined’ to provide Ukraine with ATACMS missiles.

⚡️ SBU: Ukraine bans Kremlin-linked Opposition Platform – For Life party.

⚡️Von der Leyen: EU's gas imports from Russia decrease from 40% to 9% since February, will drop further.
In an interview with The Kyiv Independent, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said that the EU "anticipated that (Russian President Vladimir) Putin would close down Nord Stream 1. So we worked hard to diversify away from Russia to other suppliers, reliable supplies like the United States or, for example, Norway."
She added that the European Union has "85% filled gas storages."

Pope: It is morally acceptable to supply Ukraine with weapons for self-defense.

⚡️Washington Post: US restricts fentanyl exports to Russia, says it's potential weapon. The EU also restricted exports of fentanyl and related drugs to Russia in June, saying the drugs "have been used as toxic chemicals in the past by Russia," the Washington Post reports.

⚡️Ukraine, Moldova, Romania agree to increase cross-border electricity trade.

⚡️Ukraine begins restoring electricity in recently liberated villages in Kharkiv Oblast.

⚡️Zelensky: Russia has launched over 3,800 missiles at Ukraine since start of full-scale invasion.

US announces new $600 million military aid package for Ukraine.
A U.S. Defense Department press release said the assistance includes additional ammunition for HIMARS rocket systems, 1,000 precision-guided 155 mm artillery shells, 36,000 105mm shells, and four counter-artillery radars.

📣 The USA imposes sanctions against Kadyrov and members of his family – media

📍Armed clashes are taking place along the entire perimeter of the Kyrgyz-Tajik state border — the border service of the State Committee for National Security of Kyrgyzstan

[there is no doubt Ukraine has freed a lot of settlements but some indications that they may have to withdraw from the bridgehead over the East of the Ingelutsk river]

Warning: distressing!

🔺 Dead children and human limbs in the teeth of dogs: paramedic Yulia "Taira" Paevskaya spoke about the horrors of Mariupol and captivity before the Helsinki Commission of the US Congress

According to her, the prisoners in their cells screamed and died from torture for weeks. The only thing they felt before they died was bullying and additional beatings.

Rescuers get women and children mutilated beyond recognition from under the rubble.

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katem98 · 16/09/2022 10:22

Oh @Ijsbear that last part 💔 absolutely bloody awful, horrific.

ScrollingLeaves · 16/09/2022 10:28

@Ijsbear · Today 10:01
ISW Key Takeaways

Thank you, as always Ijsbear for so vigilantly keeping us abreast of the latest key points.

I saw this article on The Times yesterday about parents in the liberated areas wanting their children back, apparently some having been told by Russians that the children would be taken for a holiday for their safety. I have posted a photograph of the page.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 30
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2022 11:56

OwlsDance · 15/09/2022 22:26

BBC Russia is saying at least 440 bodies, both military and civilians.

That was in a single mass grave, according to the World Service; there are other graves and corpses scattered around as well.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 16/09/2022 12:04

It's all so hideous.

OwlsDance · 16/09/2022 16:30

It's absolutely horrific. How many were found in Bucha? Ukraine is saying it's at least double that in Izyum. And Russians dumped more rockets on Izyum than Mariupol, despite the former being 10 times smaller.

MissConductUS · 16/09/2022 16:49

Mariupol was leveled mostly with tube artillery. Rockets are too expensive to use for wide area destruction. The Russians have form for using them as terror weapons against civilian areas outside of the range of tube artillery though.

There was another $600 million military aid package announced yesterday, mostly HIMARS rockets, Excalibur GPS guided artillery rounds and HARMS for attacking Russian air defenses. "The good bits", in other words. 😃

US sends new military aid for Ukraine to boost momentum

Political support for Ukraine in the US remains very strong. The few on the far right who object are just using it to beg for more border security/immigration enforcement funding.

Ijsbear · 16/09/2022 17:08

I saw this article on The Times yesterday about parents in the liberated areas wanting their children back, apparently some having been told by Russians that the children would be taken for a holiday for their safety. I have posted a photograph of the page.

Oh god. The worst of anything ... having your children taken away unwillingly, knowing they will be the hands of your worst enemies :(

@katem98 Yes. It's just horrific.

LoveLarry · 16/09/2022 18:26

The news from Izyium is truly shocking - in a world where I thought I couldn't be shocked more

Mb76 · 16/09/2022 18:29

Absolute barbarians. I don’t know how or even if people living in the border regions with Russia are ever going to get over this and move on with their lives when Ukraine wins this war. I am saying when because I have to believe this.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2022 20:31

And to think that when I was in my teens I was horrified by the account of the orchard the Nazis passed through during their retreat at the end of the war; the story was that every tree had been sawn through near the ground and left in place, so that they only started to die obviously after it was too late to save them. In my innocence I thought that was truly dreadful and couldn't understand how humans could be so needlessly vile. I have learned more about the behaviour of the barbarian when it is not controlled.

SJW0 · 16/09/2022 21:01

The Putin regime is a cancer. It spreads and so needs cutting out. And so what if many Russian conscripts die in this war? So what if Putin is defeated and do not know what kind of brute may follow on? Kadyrov? ‘The Chef’? So what.

Cancer returns, we know that. You fight it again, and again until you defeat it. That is all the focus should be on. Defeat the regime. Then see what follows. If it’s cancerous, continue again.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2022 21:30

SJW0 · 16/09/2022 21:01

The Putin regime is a cancer. It spreads and so needs cutting out. And so what if many Russian conscripts die in this war? So what if Putin is defeated and do not know what kind of brute may follow on? Kadyrov? ‘The Chef’? So what.

Cancer returns, we know that. You fight it again, and again until you defeat it. That is all the focus should be on. Defeat the regime. Then see what follows. If it’s cancerous, continue again.

The trouble with that analogy is that cancer, if not defeated, kills the host. in this case the host is the planet.

OwlsDance · 16/09/2022 22:51

@MissConductUS despite my very fluent English, it's not my first language (and if you actually met me, you wouldn't even hear an accent). In Russian, there's a single word that can mean anything that you fire that is bigger than a bullet. So when I say rockets, I don't necessarily mean rockets. It can be anything from artillery to missiles.

LoveLarry · 17/09/2022 00:05

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2022 20:31

And to think that when I was in my teens I was horrified by the account of the orchard the Nazis passed through during their retreat at the end of the war; the story was that every tree had been sawn through near the ground and left in place, so that they only started to die obviously after it was too late to save them. In my innocence I thought that was truly dreadful and couldn't understand how humans could be so needlessly vile. I have learned more about the behaviour of the barbarian when it is not controlled.

It's weird

I have a strong stomach and can deal with most things

But the 17 soldiers tossed into a mass grave. Men defending their freedom. This has finished me.

And it IS all Russians. They exist in this culture. I hate them.

MissConductUS · 17/09/2022 00:17

OwlsDance · 16/09/2022 22:51

@MissConductUS despite my very fluent English, it's not my first language (and if you actually met me, you wouldn't even hear an accent). In Russian, there's a single word that can mean anything that you fire that is bigger than a bullet. So when I say rockets, I don't necessarily mean rockets. It can be anything from artillery to missiles.

I see. Thank you, @OwlsDance, for explaining that. I apologize for any misunderstanding on my part. If we met, you would very clearly hear my American accent, I'm sure. 😄

MissConductUS · 17/09/2022 01:41

It's been a bit since I posted any of the coverage from the WSJ. This is their weekly Saturday Essay, a piece that is usually devoted to an analysis of trends and events, not just news.

THE SATURDAY ESSAY - What Russia’s Failure in Ukraine Means for Putin and the World - The exposure of his country’s weaknesses by a smaller adversary could threaten the Russian president’s influence abroad and even his hold on power.

By Yaroslav Trofimov
Sept. 16, 2022 10:59 am ET

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a firebrand Russian nationalist who often said publicly what the Kremlin thought privately, issued a forecast during his speech at the Russian parliament’s closing session in December.

A war with Ukraine, he predicted, will start before dawn on Feb. 22. As a result, “Russia will become a great nation again,” he thundered. “Everyone will have to shut their mouths and respect us.”

Mr. Zhirinovsky, who died in April from Covid, was off by just two days on the date of the invasion that triggered Europe’s bloodiest conflict since World War II. But, instead of showcasing Moscow’s newfound might, the Ukrainian war—now in its seventh month—is laying bare Russia’s weaknesses.
Moscow’s recent military defeats, inflicted by a country that it never considered a serious adversary, have challenged Russia’s basic assumptions about itself and its role in the world.

The losses are also prompting Russia’s partners, allies and arms customers to reassess their relationships, with many voicing private shock about Moscow’s bungling even as they hold back from public criticism, according to diplomats.

“Russia’s reputation has taken a significant hit,” said Thomas Graham, managing director of the consulting firm Kissinger Associates and the former senior director for Russia on the National Security Council in President George W. Bush’s White House. “It’s clear that Russia bogging down in Ukraine is going to raise questions about Russia’s own capacity, about its strength going forward and about how important a power it’s going to be on the global stage.”

Russian defenses crumbled this month after a rapid Ukrainian offensive in the eastern Kharkiv region, where Moscow had begun distributing Russian passports to residents and had recently opened schools following the Russian curriculum. In a hasty retreat, Russian troops vacated in just a few days a tenth of occupied Ukrainian territory. They abandoned hundreds of tanks, self-propelled howitzers and other armored vehicles, and large numbers of Russian troops were taken prisoner.

Russian forces were similarly forced to withdraw from Kyiv and two other regions of northern Ukraine in April. And in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas area, the “liberation” of which has been Moscow’s principal proclaimed war aim, Russia has managed to conquer only a small sliver of territory since then, with some of its gains reversed in recent days.

“What is currently happening on the front lines makes it clear that the Kremlin cannot demonstrate any victories, and that, in principle, there isn’t any likely scenario for anything that could be called a victory,” said opposition politician Ilya Ponomarev, who was the only Russian lawmaker to vote against annexing Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula in 2014.

To be sure, Russia still occupies about a fifth of Ukraine, including the 7% that it seized in 2014, and continues to strike cities, power stations and bridges across the country with long-range cruise missiles. A Ukrainian offensive in the southern Kherson region this month wasn’t as successful as in Kharkiv. Russia retains the ability to dramatically increase its armed forces through mandatory mobilization, a potentially unpopular step that the Kremlin has said isn’t being contemplated. Moscow also holds the ultimate card of using tactical nuclear weapons, though such an escalation would be fraught with unpredictable consequences for Russia itself and would contradict its proclaimed nuclear doctrine.

The poor leadership of Russian commanders in the war has been compounded by the disappointing performance of Russian weapons, matched for the first time in decades against more modern Western systems. While Ukraine possesses only a fraction of the firepower that Russia has deployed on the front lines, its new ability to carry out precise strikes thanks to Western technologies has significantly narrowed that imbalance. Russia’s air force remains largely unable to operate over Ukrainian-controlled territory, and its air defenses fail to protect valuable targets deep in the rear, including air bases in Crimea.

Buyers of Russian weapons have noticed how U.S.-made Himars missiles hit Russian targets with impunity nearly daily and how Moscow has turned to Iran for armed drones to try to redress its vulnerabilities on the battlefield. Turkey recently decided not to buy another S-400 air defense system from Russia, while India and the Philippines have scrapped major agreements to purchase Russian military helicopters. Russia was the world’s second largest weapons exporter in 2017-2021, with 19% of the global market. India, China and Egypt are its three top clients, according to Sipri, a Stockholm-based arms-trade research institute.

“Their industry is going to pay a price for all this,” said ret. Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, a former commander of the U.S. Army in Europe. When the U.S. easily destroyed Russian-made military hardware in the two Gulf wars, he said, Moscow explained it away by the poor training and organization of the Iraqi army. “Well, now you’ve got Russian equipment being operated by Russian soldiers and pilots and sailors, and it’s also being destroyed,” Mr. Hodges said. “This has been quite revealing for the market.”

The new perception of Russia’s weakness means that it is finding itself with even fewer international partners and allies just as it is facing tightening Western sanctions that gradually take a toll on its economy and starve it of modern technologies.

China has been careful not to offer much beyond verbal support to Russia, even as sophisticated Western weapons flow to Ukraine. Companies like Huawei have essentially stopped sales in Russia so as not to run afoul of U.S. sanctions, further depriving it of key technologies. Chinese manufacturer DJI, whose commercial drones are used for reconnaissance by Russian and Ukrainian troops alike, has ceased supplies to both nations, citing neutrality.

Wang Huiyao, the founder of the Center for China and Globalization think tank in Beijing, said the priority for China today is to end the conflict in Ukraine, which has disrupted the global economy, rather than to help Russia. “There isn’t really a victory on any side. It has already dragged on for over six months now, and looks like it will probably drag on for another six months. It doesn’t seem like a one-sided situation that can be quickly finished,” he said.

While maintaining “just a relation of convenience with Russia” because of the common threat from the U.S., Beijing has repeatedly reiterated its support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, he added.

"There is no Chinese company taking over the vacuum left by Western companies in Russia, and a lot of Chinese companies actually avoid doing further business in Russia,” Mr. Wang said. “I don’t see any Chinese business being more active there than before.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who met Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Thursday for the first time since the invasion began on Feb. 24, appeared to acknowledge the gap. Sitting across from Mr. Xi, Mr. Putin said that “we understand your questions and your preoccupations” with the Ukrainian crisis. A Chinese government statement after the talks made no mention of Ukraine but said that the two leaders have agreed to support each other’s “core interests.”
Russia’s formal allies in the Collective Security Treaty Organization are also keeping their distance. With the exception of Belarus, which served as a springboard for the Feb. 24 invasion, they have all abstained in United Nations General Assembly votes criticizing Russia.

Kazakhstan, whose government survived unrest thanks to a Russian military intervention in January, went as far as outlawing the “Z” symbol used in Russia by supporters of the war. Even Belarusian President Aleksander Lukashenko, raising eyebrows in Moscow, congratulated Ukraine on its independence day on Aug. 24 and wished it “peaceful skies.”

A much weakened Russia remains an important power in many parts of the world. For India, which has refrained from criticizing Moscow over Ukraine, the overriding priority is to retain access to Russian spare parts and ammunition, given that the Indian armed forces heavily rely on Soviet-legacy weapons. Another goal is to make sure that Russia doesn’t fully embrace China in the developing rivalry between the two Asian giants.

“Traditionally, it has been a strategic objective of India to keep Russia and China as far apart as possible, or at least to slow down their deepening ties,” said Tanvi Madan, director of the India project at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. “China can offer Russia more than India, which for its own reasons is getting closer to the West.” One side benefit of an enfeebled but friendly Russia for India, she added, is that Russian oil can now be purchased at a heavy discount.

In other parts of the world, Moscow can still provide minor military assistance, in part via the Wagner private military company, that can tip the scales against local insurgencies. Russia remains an important player in Syria, where its relatively small intervention stabilized President Bashar al Assad’s regime. And in several African nations, “Russia is probably judged more by what it has done locally than by what it’s doing in Ukraine,” said Angela Stent, a former U.S. national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia and a professor emerita at Georgetown University.

For Russia—with a GDP the size of Italy’s, no popular-culture exports of global appeal and few recent technological or scientific achievements—military strength, both in conventional and nuclear forces, has long represented its chief claim to great-power status.

Mr. Putin has repeatedly boasted about Russian weapons, and Moscow has successfully used its military to achieve victories in Georgia in 2008, in Ukraine’s Crimea and Donbas in 2014, and in Syria the following year.

“Russia has historically had relatively weak economic foundations of power and often relied on the military instrument as one of its strongest arguments for why it should be considered and recognized as a great power,” said Michael Kofman, director of Russia studies at the Center for Naval Analyses, a think tank that provides research for the U.S. military. “But impressions of military power can change fairly quickly, especially if you have a disastrous war like Russia is having in Ukraine.”

Russia’s renown for military might has also long been the key source of domestic legitimacy for Mr. Putin’s regime, especially after the country’s economy, which prospered in the first decade of his rule, contracted and then stagnated following the military intervention in Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.
Mr. Putin, who made a rare foray outside the confines of the Kremlin to pay his last respects to Mr. Zhirinovsky in April, has turned the celebrations of the Soviet Union’s 1945 victory against Nazi Germany into something akin to state religion in contemporary Russia.

In the Kremlin’s narrative, spread daily by Russian propaganda, the Ukrainian state (headed by a Jewish president) represents modern-day Nazis, and the current “special military operation” is a reprise of World War II. Anything short of an outright victory, therefore, would represent a historic betrayal of the legacy of 1945, threatening the very foundations of the regime.

That is why Russian military officials and Mr. Putin himself keep insisting that the “special operation” is going strictly according to plans. The Russian ministry of defense described this month’s rout in Kharkiv as a planned troop redeployment to make it easier to “liberate” the Donbas.

“We haven’t lost anything and won’t lose anything,” Mr. Putin said at an economic forum in the Pacific city of Vladivostok this month. Russia will fulfill its duty in the Donbas “to the end,” Mr. Putin pledged, “and at the end of the day, this will strengthen our country, both within and in its international position.”
Russian public opinion, by and large, has accepted this version of events, said Andrei Kolesnikov, a Moscow-based senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment who specializes on perceptions within Russian society. “Putin’s propaganda is able to describe losses as a victory,” he said. “You just have to find the right words because the public opinion is so indifferent.”

Yet, cracks in this narrative are beginning to appear, with some nationalist commentators and military bloggers describing the Russian retreat in Kharkiv in the same apocalyptic tones as Soviet defeats in the same area in 1942.
“The main lesson should be that the Russian Federation must stop looking at Ukraine from the condescending viewpoint of absolute strategic superiority and start fighting smartly, with teeth, claws and everything else that we’ve got,” wrote ultranationalist historian Yegor Holmogorov, who advocates eliminating Ukrainian language and culture.

Speaking at the Russian parliament’s opening session on Tuesday, Gennadiy Zyuganov, leader of the Communist Party, called for telling the truth about the Russian military’s “failure” in Kharkiv and—breaking an important taboo—said that the “special military operation” in Ukraine has now become a full-scale war.

So far, criticism within Russia has focused not on Mr. Putin but on Russia’s military brass, particularly Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu, derided on social media as the “plywood marshal” for having conducted a 2017 re-enactment of the 1945 Battle of Berlin, complete with a specially constructed plywood Reichstag.

In one widely circulated post, Maksim Fomin, a pro-Russian fighter and commentator in the Donbas, urged Mr. Putin to fire his generals and take personal command of “our Holy War,” the way Czar Nicholas II did in 1915 and Stalin in 1941. Other nationalist commentators have urged Mr. Putin to mobilize civilians to beef up the Russian army’s depleted ranks or to strike Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons.

“While Russia seems to have failed in its plan, the war is not over yet. Neither Putin nor his siloviki can afford to appear being weak, or losing,” Latvia’s Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics said in an interview, using the Russian word for senior security and military officials.

A show of weakness can be fatal. Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, he recalled, was ousted in a palace coup after the Soviet establishment viewed him as yielding too much to the U.S. during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. “Any ruler is strong while he is being perceived as strong,” Mr. Rinkevics said. “If he is being perceived as weak, then challengers appear.”

OwlsDance · 17/09/2022 08:36

MissConductUS · 17/09/2022 00:17

I see. Thank you, @OwlsDance, for explaining that. I apologize for any misunderstanding on my part. If we met, you would very clearly hear my American accent, I'm sure. 😄

Sorry I think I came across as having a go at you. I didn't mean it that way, I was just trying to explain language nuances!

ScrollingLeaves · 17/09/2022 09:25

I shall catch up with the thread from this morning later, thank you to all.

This is about what India told Russia, succinct but interesting.

Narendra Modi’s admonishment for Vladimir Putin: ‘I told you this was not an era for war’

Excerpt:
Vladimir Putin was publicly upbraided on Friday over his invasion of Ukraine by India's prime minister, who told him now "is not an era for war".

In a rare moment of confrontation for the Russian president, Narendra Modi said he had "spoken to you on the phone" about the need to end the war as the two met in Uzbekistan's capital, Samarkand.

“I know that today’s era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this,” Mr Modi told Mr Putin in televised remarks on the sidelines of the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) that brought together strongmen leaders from across Asia.

Hearing the remarks, Mr Putin pursed his lips, glanced at the Indian prime minister then looked down at his notes.

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/16/indias-prime-minister-confronts-putin-need-end-war-ukraine/

I am sorry, I don’t have a share token.

Ijsbear · 17/09/2022 10:15

ISW Key Takeaways

The discovery of mass graves and torture chambers in liberated Izyum confirm previous ISW assessments that the Bucha atrocities were emblematic of Russian activities in occupied areas rather than an anomaly.

Russian President Vladimir Putin apparently threatened to expand Russia’s attacks on civilian Ukrainian infrastructure if Ukraine continues reported attacks on military facilities in Russia.

The Ukrainian Resistance Center warned that Russian forces may conduct false flag attacks in occupied areas between September 17 and September 20.

Ukrainian forces captured all of Kupyansk City on September 16, continuing offensive operations east of the Oskil River.

Ukrainian forces reportedly shelled targets in Valuyki, Belgorod Oblast, Russia, overnight on September 15-16.

Ukrainian forces struck Russia’s occupation headquarters in Kherson, likely using HIMARS, and are continuing ground maneuvers in three areas of Kherson Oblast as part of the ongoing southern counteroffensive.

Russian administrative officials are rallying around Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov’s call for “self-mobilization” at a local level to provide additional forces to the Russian military.

Forced Russian mobilization campaigns are likely depleting male populations in parts of the claimed territory of the Russian proxy Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR) along the front lines.

Immediate and coordinated Russian information responses suggest that Ukrainian partisans may not be responsible for the September 16 assassination of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) Prosecutor General and his deputy. [WOW, the implication of that is rather startling, given the high rank of the victims]

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⚡️Putin: Seizure of entire Donbas remains Russia's main war aim.

Von der Leyen: ‘I'm deeply convinced that Ukraine will win this war (kyivindependent.com/national/von-der-leyen-im-deeply-convinced-that-ukraine-will-win-this-war)’

⚡️Greece to supply Ukraine with 40 BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles.
According to a deal finalized with Germany, Greece will receive the same amount of Marder armored fighting vehicles from Germany in return for the BMP-1 vehicles supplied to Ukraine, Greece's Defense Ministry said.
It took Germany and Greece four months to agree on the deal.

⚡️Pentagon: Ukraine to receive first two NASAMS air defense systems within 2 months.

⚡️Energoatom provides Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant with urgently needed spare parts.
Ukraine's state nuclear company Energoatom reported that a 25-truck convoy passed Russian military checkpoints and arrived in Russian-occupied Enerhodar with spare parts for the repair of damaged facilities.

⚡️Mayor: Kolomoisky's company lost right to operate Dnipro Airport.
According to Dnipro Mayor Borys Filatov, the right of Galtera, a company linked to oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, has been revoked by a court.

⚡️ Zelensky to address UN General Assembly, despite Russian opposition.
UN member states voted on Sept. 16 to make an exception to allow President Volodymyr Zelensky to deliver a pre-recorded statement. Of the 193 member states, 101 voted in favour, seven, including Russia, opposed, and 19 abstained.

⚡️ Welt: Sholz says Germany should have reacted “more harshly” to annexation of Crimea.
“I want to say clearly that it would probably have been right, at least in retrospect, to react more harshly to the annexation of Crimea,” German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said at a Bundeswehr conference in Berlin, reports Welt.

⚡️UK Intelligence: Russia likely to conduct 'stubborn defense' of remaining occupied areas in Kharkiv Oblast.

⚡️ Mayor: Russian military base destroyed near occupied Melitopol.

🗣Belgium will supply Ukraine with large-caliber machine guns ad ammunition for them, reports Ludivine Dedonder, Belgium Defense Minister.r.

❗️Senior US officials tell CNN they are disappointed US-led sanctions haven't had a bigger impact so far on the Russian economy and are now predicting that the harshest effects probably won't materialize until early next year at the earliest.

🗣Moscow's military reserves may be smaller than initially assumed, reports Reuters.
"Russia has suffered significant troop and equipment losses in Ukraine," said Germany's defence minister Christine Lambrecht....."Nevertheless, one should not be mistaken: Russia is far from defeated and still has various military options."

💳Ukraine received the first tranche of financial assistance from the European Investment Bank.
The first 500 million Euros out of the whole 1.59 billion package were received as per the Plan of Restoration of Ukraine, informs Danylo Hetmantsev,
Chairman of the Parliament Committee on Finance, Tax and Customs Policy.
These funds will be used to restore the crucial infrastructure, such as roads, railways, bridge crossings etc.

📌Erdogan had a meeting with Putin at the 22th summit of the heads of Shanghai Organization member-states, reports the Directorate on Communications of the Administration of the President of Turkey
After the meeting, Putin said that a quarter of gas supplies from Russia to turkey will be paid for in Rubles, while gas supply via Turkstream goes on without interruptions, including supplies to the European countries.

💧Mariupol residents are forced to collect rainwater due to a lack of water supply
According to him, despite the statements of the occupation authorities, Mariupol continues to remain without water.
People are forced to collect rainwater, as the Russian invaders have stopped bringing drinking water, and the centralized water supply has long been destroyed by their shelling.

📌 The Russian command sends the most demoralized Russian soldiers to the rear for "brainwashing" to then return them to the front — Nataliia Humeniuk, Head of the Joint Coordination Press Centre of the South Defence Force

📌Bloomberg: starting from December, Russia will be able to sell approximately half of its raw oil.
Russia will be able to find new sales markets for approximately half of the volumes of its raw oil after the EU will completely reject it in December.

‼️The Russian invaders stationed about 800 units of aviation around the Ukrainian Borders, reports Yuriy Ihnat, the spokesman for the Ukrainian Air Force.
"Around 430 Russian planes and 340 helicopters are stationed on the military airfields in Russia, Crimea, and Belarus".

📣 Joe Biden warned Russia of "consequences" if it uses nuclear or chemical weapons in Ukraine
“They [the Russian Federation] will become the greatest exiles in the world than ever before. And depending on the scale of what they are doing, we will decide on the answer, ”the US president said in an interview with CBS. [with the Russian campaign having run into trouble, the spectre of nuclear/chemical warfare is hovering aroudn the edges again and people are taking steps to handle this possibility]

📌 In the temporarily occupied territories of the Zaporizhzhia region, the Russian occupation administration announces the strengthening of "sanctions" against patriotic citizens of Ukraine, the General Staff reports

🔸 The illegal armed formation "Union of Volunteers of Donbas" has significant losses, but cannot receive proper medical care, the General Staff of Ukraine reports

💡According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), Russian President Vladimir Putin has threatened to step up attacks on Ukraine's civilian infrastructure if "Ukrainian attacks" on Russian military positions in Russia continue.

🪆Putin commented on Ukraine's counteroffensive for the first time and made several statements on the war during the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit

Key points:
▪️Reaction to the counteroffensive: "We'll see how it ends. Russia responds rather discreetly. But for the time being. More recently, the Russian armed forces have conducted some sensible strikes. Let's consider these to be preemptive strikes."

▪️The war plan against Ukraine: "Not subject to correction. The General Staff makes operational decisions during the operation. Something is considered the key, the main goal – and the main goal is the liberation of the entire territory of Donbas, this work continues, despite attempts by the Ukrainian army to counterattack."

▪️On the negotiations: Putin said that Russia was not opposed to negotiations, but added that he was not familiar with the recommendations on guarantees recently offered by the Office of the President of Ukraine.

Before that, in a meeting with the Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, the Russian President said he would supposedly

"do whatever it takes to end the war," but resented that Ukraine wanted to win by military means.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 30
Ukraine Invasion: Part 30
Mb76 · 17/09/2022 10:16

@ScrollingLeaves that is funny, would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that meeting to watch putin being reprimanded as a petulant school boy. But I can’t imagine him backing down because everyone told him to. He will want to continue to spite them all. At this point I think only an internal upheaval will make him stop. But I don’t think russia is at that point yet. Majority of them still see Ukraine as a being a part of russia, they believe Ukraine is “theirs”. They don’t know otherwise because history they learn at school doesn’t teach them about Ukraine as an independent nation that is forever wanting to be free of russia and their “brotherly love”.
@LoveLarry
I am also finding myself hating them all, it’s been a long time coming. I don’t know how to live with this hatred in my heart. It’s already cost me so much, I’ve lost friends and cut ties with close family over their support of Putin (going back to 2014). There are so many voids left in my heart. I don’t know what the answer is. 😞

LoveLarry · 17/09/2022 12:47

The Ukrainian government are absolute masters at comms

Link to a tweet from the Defence Ministry that made me laugh out loud

twitter.com/defenceu/status/1570891498249670656?s=46&t=6aET0I0MPuOlLHtBboxdEg

blueshoes · 17/09/2022 13:08

The discovery of mass graves and torture chambers in liberated Izyum confirm previous ISW assessments that the Bucha atrocities were emblematic of Russian activities in occupied areas rather than an anomaly.

I am appalled and sickened by Russia (yet again). It was too much to hope for a different result from Bucha. The only difference with Izyum appears to be that the Russian occupying forces were more careful to hide the evidence in graves and basements.

@Mb76 I cannot imagine how much harder it is for you when you have personal losses. There are no words Flowers

blueshoes · 17/09/2022 13:19

Iranian drones are now operating in Ukraine.

www.wsj.com/articles/russias-use-of-iranian-kamikaze-drones-creates-new-dangers-for-ukrainian-troops-11663415140

Russia’s Use of Iranian Kamikaze Drones Creates New Dangers for Ukrainian Troops

Shahed-136 drones supplied to Russia carried out several devastating strikes in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region over past week, Ukrainian commanders say
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Over the past week, Shahed-136 delta-wing drones, repainted in Russian colors and rebranded as Geranium 2, started appearing over Ukrainian armor and artillery positions in the northeastern Kharkiv region, said Col. Rodion Kulagin, commander of artillery of Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade.

In his brigade’s operational area alone, the Iranian drones—which usually fly in pairs and then slam into their targets—have destroyed two 152-mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, as well as two BTR armored infantry vehicles, he said. Before the current wide-scale use of the Shaheds, Russia carried out a test last month, striking a U.S.-supplied M777 155-mm towed howitzer with the drone, Col. Kulagin said. Another Iranian drone malfunctioned and was recovered, he said.
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Scott Crino, founder and chief executive of Red Six Solutions LLC, a strategic consulting firm, said the Shahed-136 could provide Russia with a “potent counterweight” to the high-tech weapons systems, such as Himars missile launchers, that the U.S. has provided to Ukraine
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Mr. Crino said the Shahed-136 can be used with great effect with one targeting a radar system and the second one hitting artillery pieces. Iran also has antijamming systems that can make it hard for Ukrainian forces to counter, he said. “Once a Shahed locks onto target, it will be hard to stop,” he said.

The Iranian drones are relatively small and fly at a very low altitude, making it hard for Ukrainian air-defense systems to detect them, Col. Kulagin said. He said he hoped the U.S. and allies could provide Ukraine with more advanced antidrone technologies, or would step in to disrupt Iranian drone shipments to Russia.
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Ukraine, unlike Russia, also operates a fleet of drones armed with missiles. These Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones destroyed several Russian armored columns in the early days of the war and are being used more frequently once again, now that Kyiv has been able to weaken Russian air defenses in many areas, in part thanks to U.S.-supplied AGM-88 HARM antiradar missiles.
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Both Russia and Ukraine also use kamikaze drones, also known as loitering munitions. Russia’s Kalashnikov Group has developed a homemade drone known as Kub-Bla, while Ukraine is flying Polish-made Warmate and U.S.-supplied Switchblade drones, as well as some locally-made UAVs. These munitions have a much shorter range and flying time than the Iranian-developed Shahed drones, and carry a significantly smaller payload.

Iran has emerged as one of the world’s most resourceful developers of combat drones, in part by reverse-engineering American drones that went astray over the past two decades in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Michael Knights, a military specialist at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank, predicted that Ukrainian forces would be able to quickly counter the threat posed by Iranian kamikaze drones. “Iran’s drones look snazzy in Yemen and Syria and Gaza, but they’re increasingly blockable,” he said.
Ukraine, he said, is “a serious counter-air environment and electronic warfare environment that Iran hasn’t really experienced before.” These drones, Mr. Knights added, “tend to have effect at first and then the shock effect wears off.”

MagicFox · 17/09/2022 13:45

Just a warning to stay off Twitter today - some really distressing images circulating that I wish I could get out of my head.

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