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Which businesses are going to go under?

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Nobledeedsandhotbaths · 26/08/2022 23:45

I've been thinking about the upcoming crisis and wondering which 'non-essential' businesses are likely to lose most custom once things begin to bite.

Things like:
Tattoo artists
Nail technicians
Children's party entertainers
Just for a few examples.

There are many others I would class as non-essential that will potentially be ok because their client base is the wealthy, who will be less affected by what is going to happen.

What are other people's predictions for businesses that may struggle?

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verdantverdure · 27/08/2022 18:53

Giffgaff's £10 goody bag has unlimited calls and texts and 15GB of data.

www.giffgaff.com/

DogInATent · 27/08/2022 18:53

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 18:29

When people mention coffee shops do they mean Pret and Costa for actual coffee or do you mean cafes which do the full English etc.?

Even when working I couldn't ever justify 2.50 for a coffee as I'd far prefer to spend it on other things.

Pret and Costa have struggled with the whole WFH thing. Call me cynical, but the calls from government to get us all back into the office do massively benefit office landlords, newspaper publishers (most print newspapers are sold to commuters), and the coffee chains you see in every station and on every city corner. Amongst others.

Debt-heavy chains are the most vulnerable to a recession - Pret and Pizza Express are both examples of chains that are heavily in debt.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 18:57

Decidualcast · 27/08/2022 18:41

Please can I ask which company gives you unlimited £9/mth?

I'm lying (not intentionally lol).
I think I used to be on 5gb and that was 11 per month but with sky you roll over data so I've reduced it to the 2gb per month (£6 per month) as I have 100GB saved up.
Shop around. I don't need unlimited data on my phone as 1. I don't leave the house too often so I use my wifi when at home and 2. I discovered the very obvious notion of downloading podcasts/movies/music on my home wifi.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:02

DogInATent · 27/08/2022 18:53

Pret and Costa have struggled with the whole WFH thing. Call me cynical, but the calls from government to get us all back into the office do massively benefit office landlords, newspaper publishers (most print newspapers are sold to commuters), and the coffee chains you see in every station and on every city corner. Amongst others.

Debt-heavy chains are the most vulnerable to a recession - Pret and Pizza Express are both examples of chains that are heavily in debt.

I tend to notice that when companies are offering freebies, they're usually about to go under. They're not doing it out of generosity.
The one I've noticed recently is Ocado who were offering 90p delivery for a new order. They're clearly feeling the pinch I would say. Or maybe anticipating the pinch lol.

DogInATent · 27/08/2022 19:02

Westfacing · 27/08/2022 18:09

There's been an insatiable appetite over the years for coffee shops and nail bars - for some reason I think they'll survive, particularly nail bars as their energy costs are minimal compared to other businesses.

A few posters have mentioned nail bars being fronts for money-laundering, how so? They always seem very busy so work does actually get done, rather than a shop that hardly opens.

Money laundering requires a way of getting illegally obtained cash income onto the books in a way that's plausibly legitimate. Certain types of business are cash-focussed and 'extra' cash can be slipped into the takings without arousing suspicion of the authorities.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:04

DogInATent · 27/08/2022 19:02

Money laundering requires a way of getting illegally obtained cash income onto the books in a way that's plausibly legitimate. Certain types of business are cash-focussed and 'extra' cash can be slipped into the takings without arousing suspicion of the authorities.

They're also usually businesses that employ a lot of immigrants (they keep quiet).

Whatsmynameagainplease · 27/08/2022 19:05

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 18:47

Apple shares are holding steady and growing slightly. It'll be interesting to see the share price in February as they usually introduce new models in January?

I think it will be interesting I don't imagine Apple or Samsung going out of business but I also think a lot of people will be cutting back from getting the latest iPhone and holding onto their current one or getting something cheaper.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:06

Hello Fresh or similar models and those other cook at home boxes also seem to be offering freebies so I suspect they're also bracing for impact.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:07

Whatsmynameagainplease · 27/08/2022 19:05

I think it will be interesting I don't imagine Apple or Samsung going out of business but I also think a lot of people will be cutting back from getting the latest iPhone and holding onto their current one or getting something cheaper.

They're well-cushioned so they won't go out of business but the share price will drop in the new year I suspect. It really depends on the global impact as they're not reliant on any one economy.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 27/08/2022 19:13

Maireas · 27/08/2022 18:00

I have read the whole thread. I understand that people may have given up their pets, but my point is that it's hard for people to give up a pet like a dog. My neighbours say they'll struggle but won't give him up.
There will be hard choices.

I'm sure there'll also be some people who will also see this as an excuse to get rid of a no longer wanted pet.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:14

I own the sum total of 0.0188 shares in Apple. 😂
I was given a £2 partial share in Apple for free when I signed up to Freetrade. The value now is £2.58. I can't remember when I was given that but it was certainly at least 8 months ago.

Which businesses are going to go under?
Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:17

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:14

I own the sum total of 0.0188 shares in Apple. 😂
I was given a £2 partial share in Apple for free when I signed up to Freetrade. The value now is £2.58. I can't remember when I was given that but it was certainly at least 8 months ago.

I would open an Off Shore account.....

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:18

There's another thread about a hen do and how expensive it is. I wonder if these hen extravaganzas, overseas weddings and the like will decline in popularity.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:19

It was over a year ago! 9th of August.
As you can see, it is dropping. It's still up from over a year ago, but I'll be like Leonardo DiCaprio shouting SELL SELL SELL if it drops more. I can't be losing my £2! 😁

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:20

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:17

I would open an Off Shore account.....

Oh, it has to be done. I'll be creamed with taxes lol. Would you go with The Isle of Man or the Cayman's?

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:20

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:20

Oh, it has to be done. I'll be creamed with taxes lol. Would you go with The Isle of Man or the Cayman's?

Jersey

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:21

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:20

Jersey

Will they be able to absorb this amount? I'm not sure they'll take it on. 😆

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:24

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:21

Will they be able to absorb this amount? I'm not sure they'll take it on. 😆

Risky. I'll give you £1.98 no questions asked. See you by the docks, 8pm

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:28

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:24

Risky. I'll give you £1.98 no questions asked. See you by the docks, 8pm

Do you think I'm a mug? I'll sell you Amazon though. Those bastards fluctuate worse than me with PMT!

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:29

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:18

There's another thread about a hen do and how expensive it is. I wonder if these hen extravaganzas, overseas weddings and the like will decline in popularity.

For your big day? NO!
Of course they will.

quiteathome · 27/08/2022 19:32

I know I am in denial about it all at the moment.

If possible I won't give up the children's extra curricular activities.

I will cut back on eating out and take aways and coffees when out and about.

mrsbyers · 27/08/2022 19:38

The businesses that weather the storm will be the ones that are popular with the younger population who still live at home as it’s unlikely they will be as impacted by rising costs unless parents pass on via an increase in board , even then they’ll still be more fortunate. So Nando’s and popular bars should be ok

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:40

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:29

For your big day? NO!
Of course they will.

That's easy for you to say, with your Off Shore account.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:41

mrsbyers · 27/08/2022 19:38

The businesses that weather the storm will be the ones that are popular with the younger population who still live at home as it’s unlikely they will be as impacted by rising costs unless parents pass on via an increase in board , even then they’ll still be more fortunate. So Nando’s and popular bars should be ok

Very true but a lot of them are trying to save for mortgages so house prices will influence their spending too.

Oldcottoneye · 27/08/2022 19:42

Maireas · 27/08/2022 19:40

That's easy for you to say, with your Off Shore account.

You should see my full portfolio. 😊