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The one where Big Dog gets poop scooped Thread 10

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InMySpareTime · 07/07/2022 13:25

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tobee · 13/07/2022 01:45

That "say nice things about the Tories" sounds a bit pathetic doesn't it? Surely that wasn't the reason?

tobee · 13/07/2022 01:49

Oh I read the report. How embarrassingly pathetic.

jgw1 · 13/07/2022 07:08

tobee · 13/07/2022 01:44

Ironic that those subjects are often what people who send their kids to private school pay for that provision. But not for the little people eh?

It is very obvious in the aftermath of lockdowns and these things being absent, that they are far more important to developing good young people than more maths, english or science lessons.

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2022 08:21

Zahawi saying if he won he'd offer Johnson a Cabinet position 🙄

ClaudineClare · 13/07/2022 08:36

I am almost starting to wish Johnson had stayed in post. This rabble is stomach churning. A bunch of fleas hopping off the corpse of Big Dog.

Roussette · 13/07/2022 08:42

They are all as bad as each other. If Truss gets in, I swear I'm emigrating. I could not bear it.

Ginajo · 13/07/2022 09:00

Having looked at that link it seems my MP is backing Penny Mordaunt. A few weeks ago he said that Johnson had his full support. So if he's for Mordaunt then I'm not. I wouldn't want any of them but on balance I'd pick Sunak. My friend who is a Tory party member supports Hunt.

ClaudineClare · 13/07/2022 09:04

Truss would probably be a gift to Labour, though. Starmer could take her to pieces every Wednesday.

DowningStreetParty · 13/07/2022 09:04

BBC NEWS: Cost of living: Why are things so hard for so many people?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62128069

Totally agree about the flea circus.
The really misleading and ignorant comments from so many of the Tory leadership candidates in this utter shitshow about unemployment and the size and generosity of the welfare state in the UK are very much exposed as bullshit by this short factual BBC article. It’s probably not anything new to anyone on here but it’s a handy summary and I’m going to bookmark it for sending it to my MP next time I see stupid claims being made by front runners.

All of the structural and temporary factors mentioned that are tipping more and more working and unemployed people into poverty are on the Tories’ watch. They just don’t talk like they’ve been the party with government responsibility since the coalition of 2010. Its outrageous.

So I recommend this article as a really quick factual read for facts to counteract irresponsible candidates trying to whip up feeling against poor people. They seem hellbent on continuing the Conservative’s moral race to the bottom to give themselves personal power and advantage. It’s sickening to watch. We should be deciding the leadership of the country via a general election, not them and their party members now johnson has shown himself completely unfit for office.

TLDR;

BBC reports that Millions of the poorest people in the UK will begin to receive the first half of a £650 government grant on Thursday.

The payment is to help with the soaring cost of living, but many of those eligible were struggling long before now.

FIve things that helped to create a perfect storm of vulnerability for the recent price rises:
-Food banks dependency explosion in part caused by rising cost of housing plus
-Rise of insecure jobs
-Stagnant pay for 20 years
-Rising in-work poverty
-UK jobseekers reliant on government benefits are the worst-off in the developed OECD nations

L1ttledrummergirl · 13/07/2022 09:08

I never in a million years thought I'd being saying this but at the moment my preference is Tom Tugendhat followed by Jeremy Cunt.
The rest can get to fuck as more of the same and the tories sticking the finger up at us. I don't know if I'd join an alternative party but they will have to work hard to stop me campaigning against them in all future elections.

I may amend my opinion as more information comes to light

DowningStreetParty · 13/07/2022 09:14

I think they’re all awful but at this point and how completely fucked the economy is for so many British people, I think we have to pray for Sunak to get it. I’m shocked by the complete financial irresponsibility of all of the rest of them saying like sheep that they’ll massively cut taxes. As if that would solve everybody’s problems. They’re either stupid and irresponsible if they do do it or lying and know that they won’t be able to safely do it.

Labour have done the maths on what that tax cutting would mean:

Labour has said the candidates' pledging tax cuts would create a £24bn budget deficit and see public sector debt reach 84% of GDP by 2026-27.
It also accused [the candidates] of abandoning the government's own fiscal charter, which commits it both to balancing the current budget and having public sector net debt as a percentage of GDP falling in three years' time.
In a speech at a Resolution Foundation think tank event on Wednesday, Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves will pledge that a Labour government would only borrow to invest and will also commit it to cutting the UK's public debt
.

ClaudineClare · 13/07/2022 09:14

I am convinced Mordaunt will win. I am even thinking of putting a bet on, just to get something good out of this debacle.

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2022 09:20

Mordaunt has been dishing out quite a lot of "misleading" comments of late - the Uk and every other EU country having a veto over Turkey joining as one example. Don't Conservative membership notice such things?

ancientgran · 13/07/2022 09:21

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2022 17:13

Well, heaven forbid politics gets in the way of ...oh wait....

Mad isn't it. I always wonder what business politicians are in if it isn't politics.

TokyoSushi · 13/07/2022 09:27

Gah, it's all so depressing! They're all truly awful, and becoming awfuler by the day!

Seeing the pitches yesterday it was also blindingly obvious that it's going to be the same shit, just that the same folk will sit in different chairs. And all so amateurish 'pick me because I'm an excellent leader and work well as part of a team' like they're applying for some sort of a Saturday job down the local Co-Op.

And as for 'ready for effing Rishi' - surely he should be ready for us rather than the other way around with us ready and grateful to receive his fabulousness.

Can you tell I'm 'a bit disheartened' with it all this morning?!

ancientgran · 13/07/2022 09:27

derxa · 12/07/2022 21:34

I don't think Kemi knows what she's talking about. Differentiation is for all levels of ability

Differentiation! I knew there was a proper way to describe it, I just couldn't think of it so thank you.

ancientgran · 13/07/2022 09:29

Ginajo · 13/07/2022 09:00

Having looked at that link it seems my MP is backing Penny Mordaunt. A few weeks ago he said that Johnson had his full support. So if he's for Mordaunt then I'm not. I wouldn't want any of them but on balance I'd pick Sunak. My friend who is a Tory party member supports Hunt.

My Tory MP was one of the early ones to call on Johnson to go and he's backing Hunt if that's any help. Not sure I'd want him but then I don't think I want any of them so I think I'll be disappointed whoever wins.

ancientgran · 13/07/2022 09:35

L1ttledrummergirl · 13/07/2022 09:08

I never in a million years thought I'd being saying this but at the moment my preference is Tom Tugendhat followed by Jeremy Cunt.
The rest can get to fuck as more of the same and the tories sticking the finger up at us. I don't know if I'd join an alternative party but they will have to work hard to stop me campaigning against them in all future elections.

I may amend my opinion as more information comes to light

I did think I'd support Hunt as he seemed like the "grown up" in the contest but picking Esther McVey has stopped that.

I'm thinking Tom tugendhat now but I've got a horrible feeling that is just because I don't know enough about him.

Good job I haven't got a vote really.

I'm thinking @ClaudineClare has a good idea. I might decide who I think is the worst option, Lizz Truss maybe, and put a bet on them, then if they win I've got something to be happy about. Seems the only way to find anything positive about it.

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2022 09:40

Quite agree @TokyoSushi.

Like a holiday with toddlers, it generates a lot of excitement but in reality is the same shit with added hazards.

There was more stirrings on Twitter regarding Johnson's trip to visit Lebedev's Italian holiday home - something about travelling with a young woman in tow. I can't find it now but the journalist involved was threatened with legal action.

TokyoSushi · 13/07/2022 09:41

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2022 09:40

Quite agree @TokyoSushi.

Like a holiday with toddlers, it generates a lot of excitement but in reality is the same shit with added hazards.

There was more stirrings on Twitter regarding Johnson's trip to visit Lebedev's Italian holiday home - something about travelling with a young woman in tow. I can't find it now but the journalist involved was threatened with legal action.

Yes! I just saw that!! 😳🙄

itsgettingweird · 13/07/2022 09:42

DowningStreetParty · 13/07/2022 09:14

I think they’re all awful but at this point and how completely fucked the economy is for so many British people, I think we have to pray for Sunak to get it. I’m shocked by the complete financial irresponsibility of all of the rest of them saying like sheep that they’ll massively cut taxes. As if that would solve everybody’s problems. They’re either stupid and irresponsible if they do do it or lying and know that they won’t be able to safely do it.

Labour have done the maths on what that tax cutting would mean:

Labour has said the candidates' pledging tax cuts would create a £24bn budget deficit and see public sector debt reach 84% of GDP by 2026-27.
It also accused [the candidates] of abandoning the government's own fiscal charter, which commits it both to balancing the current budget and having public sector net debt as a percentage of GDP falling in three years' time.
In a speech at a Resolution Foundation think tank event on Wednesday, Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves will pledge that a Labour government would only borrow to invest and will also commit it to cutting the UK's public debt
.

A sky news analyst showed it'll be closer to £31-36 bn

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2022 09:49

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2022 09:40

Quite agree @TokyoSushi.

Like a holiday with toddlers, it generates a lot of excitement but in reality is the same shit with added hazards.

There was more stirrings on Twitter regarding Johnson's trip to visit Lebedev's Italian holiday home - something about travelling with a young woman in tow. I can't find it now but the journalist involved was threatened with legal action.

Here you go

twitter.com/pcaruanagalizia/status/1546878287795871745?t=uzU4oVfffcIbQ5GcX_88Ug&s=19

On who Johnson went with, I put the rumour that he was accompanied by a specific young woman to Downing Street.

Guto Harri told me that Johnson denies it and: “If you publish this, then the Prime Minister will sue and you can be the first to contribute to his retirement fund.”

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2022 09:53

New: Government admits trying to alter Channel 4's annual report so it was more positive about privatisation.
twitter.com/ChrisBurn_Post/status/1546884375219998723?t=tTP7dVn_EYm8wd6VMGU1OA&s=19

Will that come up in the debate C4 is hosting on Friday?

derxa · 13/07/2022 09:53

Quia · 13/07/2022 00:32

I suspect Badenoch's concept of unnecessary peripheral activities in school includes fluffy stuff like drama, music, after school clubs - basically all the enrichment stuff which gives children a well-rounded education and helps motivate them to enjoy school. After all, we must leave enough time for learning imperial weights and measures and Latin, mustn't we?

I've always found Latin very useful actually. (Scottish comp education 1970s)

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2022 10:26

Home Affairs Committee

This morning at 10.00am we were due to be questioning the Home Secretary, Priti Patel. She has declined to attend our session.

How is this allowed?

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