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Johnson has fired Gove

317 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/07/2022 21:18

Couldn't have happened to a nicer chap.

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AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 00:45

RobynNora · 06/07/2022 23:16

Very much not a Tory but this is a loss. Gove was a highly effective Housing Secretary. The housing developers hate him as he held them to account on flammable cladding. Even the lefty New Statesman recently wrote about how good he was as housing sec.

I feel similarly. I despised what he did as Education Secretary, but in other roles he's demonstrated that he's one of the few members of Johnson's cabinet that is reasonably competent. Plus he's quite powerful and has a lot of influence. Sacking him was a pretty stupid move.

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2022 00:45

Chris Curtis AT chriscurtis94
When are we allowed to start talking about the upcoming Uxbridge and South Ruislip by-election?

Sweep stake on the timing of the lecturn appearing anyone?

WildRosie · 07/07/2022 00:45

Constitutional question. If The Queen isn't available to receive the PM for a 'dissolution audience', say because she's miles away or too ill, can anyone substitute for her ? Perhaps her Personal Private Secretary or Prince Charles ? I expect there is a protocol in place.

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 00:48

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2022 00:12

Henry Zeffman AT hzeffman
Presumably Boris Johnson sacks Suella Braverman tonight or first thing tomorrow (after all James Duddridge told us there were lots of people desperate to serve)

Either way, it's attorney general questions at 10am in the Commons tomorrow.

And Braverman's no 2 quit yesterday

Ah nothing says 'im still in charge' like having to choose between keeping a cabinet minister who said on national tv that she thinks you should quit and she is going after your job or keeping the same woman on because if you ditch her there is no one else left in the department to do government business...

I'm expecting to see Raab doubling up as Justice Minister and Attorney General. He's about the only lawyer MP left supporting Johnson.

Nolongerteaching · 07/07/2022 00:54

@PastMyBestBeforeDate @ChicCroissant

thank you - I remember that. That is sharp of them

Nolongerteaching · 07/07/2022 00:56

And @minou123

minou123 · 07/07/2022 00:58

I really need to go to bed. But before I do, I think this is my favourite tweet

Beth Rigby on the Cabinet Ministers waiting at No 10 to tell Boris to go:
"Jacob Rees-Mogg isn’t there"
Of course he isn’t. He’s in 1887

It reminds me of one if my favourite description of JRM here on mumsnet.
A poster said he looks like a man that when he masturbates, dust comes out.

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2022 01:00

What time do you think Johnson has gone to bed tonight?

And on that note, see you all tomorrow!

Princessoftheuniverse · 07/07/2022 01:54

toomuchlaundry ·
Maybe Boris thinks that might make everyone like him again because no-one likes Gove!

Calling Gove a snake is an insult to snakes. I remember how Gove united the teachers though. We all hated him so I must admit Boris went up a bit in my opinion. He’d go up a bit more if he’d sacked Jacob RM too and don’t get me started on Priti Patel.

antelopevalley · 07/07/2022 02:34

ParsleySageRosemary · 06/07/2022 23:30

She uses it when she’s told to. The royal family has no real power and if they suddenly assumed it again there will be many who would be very very unhappy. We are supposed to be a democracy, as Johnson himself claims. The idea of the royal family assuming power would have been unthinkable from the 1970s through to 2010 and I don’t know where the change is coming from.

Nor do I think Johnson would come or go at her beck and call, if he hasn’t after all these resignations and pressure.

The Royal Family do have power. They get laws changed to benefit them or get exemptions.

Aria999 · 07/07/2022 03:00

SidewaysOtter · 06/07/2022 23:10

I do wonder what the Queen is making of it all though.

I like to think of her with her feet up in front of the TV, fag in one hand and a stiff G&T in the other, Corgis on lap and cheering every time another resignation is announced.

🤣🤣🤣

Greenberg · 07/07/2022 05:07

It's almost like he's trying to make himself a laughing stock. It reminds me of a football manager who's absolutely panicking and throws all his U23 players on in the hope they'll be any good. It never works.

What's ridiculous is you'll still get people saying he's more trustworthy than Starmer. Politics is the most deluded aspect of modern life. People will cling to their beliefs, no matter what evidence to the contrary.

Greenberg · 07/07/2022 05:13

Princessoftheuniverse · 07/07/2022 01:54

toomuchlaundry ·
Maybe Boris thinks that might make everyone like him again because no-one likes Gove!

Calling Gove a snake is an insult to snakes. I remember how Gove united the teachers though. We all hated him so I must admit Boris went up a bit in my opinion. He’d go up a bit more if he’d sacked Jacob RM too and don’t get me started on Priti Patel.

How could you say that when he appointed them in the first place?

Anyone who could appoint two more monstrous sneering hypocrites than JRM and PP is the depths of crookedness and dishonour, which sums up Johnson perfectly.

Yougottalaffdarlin888 · 07/07/2022 06:23

GuyFawkesDay · 06/07/2022 21:21

Oh dear god, this is all looking rather Trumpian isn't it?

He will be encouraging the storming Westminster next in an attempt to cling on

It really is looking very Trumpian.
And the spooky thing is that all those Pro Trump supporters who wandered into the Capital building on their "protest", looking a bit confused, like tourists, on Jan 6th.... Some of them are still being held in prison.

All very spooky and worrying. Their own stupidity - sure - but what a price to pay.

Bloodyel · 07/07/2022 06:35

Perhaps BJ isn't clinging to his job so much as giving a metaphorical representation of why it's problematic to cling to outmoded and scientifically disproven ideals

waheymouth · 07/07/2022 06:51

TheChosenTwo · 06/07/2022 22:11

I was reading about Alistair Campbell thinking ‘blimey what’s he got to do with all this? Surely he was last seen presenting Wheel of Fortune back in 1994!’
it’s been a really long day… anyway, made myself laugh. Not as much as watching this shitshow unfold though, you couldn’t make up this farce could you?

Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart have a number one podcast

minou123 · 07/07/2022 06:54

Bloody hell it's not even 7am yet, and another MP has resigned- Brandon Lewis

minou123 · 07/07/2022 06:56

Christ on a bike....and another Helen Whately.

PhryneFisher · 07/07/2022 07:03

DPotter · 06/07/2022 21:21

Just how are they going to get that man out of No 10?

They’ll tell him there’s a young blonde lady asking to see him at the front door, then as he lumbers towards her drooling, they’ll slam the door shut behind him.

balalake · 07/07/2022 07:12

Michael Gove the rudest man in politics, but one of possibly if you are charitable three competent people who are/were in the cabinet. I'm giving Nadhim Zahawi the benefit of the doubt, and Michelle Donellan has only been there two days.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/07/2022 07:19

If they do finally dislodge him, who takes over as caretaker PM? Raab? 😱

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SnowyLamb · 07/07/2022 07:20

AlecTrevelyan006 · 07/07/2022 00:03

twitter.com/TomHourigan/status/1544810671191228416?t=UvSXKkRu2C5xtFLXFJ4kJQ&s=19

In case you missed it, Newsnight replaced its end credits tonight with a list of all the ministerial resignations so far set to an acoustic version of Bittersweet Symphony

I thought that was horrible actually, it was like they'd died.

SnowyLamb · 07/07/2022 07:22

Greenberg · 07/07/2022 05:13

How could you say that when he appointed them in the first place?

Anyone who could appoint two more monstrous sneering hypocrites than JRM and PP is the depths of crookedness and dishonour, which sums up Johnson perfectly.

Patel has called for him to go now, so does he have to sack her?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/07/2022 07:23

minou123 · 07/07/2022 00:58

I really need to go to bed. But before I do, I think this is my favourite tweet

Beth Rigby on the Cabinet Ministers waiting at No 10 to tell Boris to go:
"Jacob Rees-Mogg isn’t there"
Of course he isn’t. He’s in 1887

It reminds me of one if my favourite description of JRM here on mumsnet.
A poster said he looks like a man that when he masturbates, dust comes out.

Grin Grin Grin

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HalleLouja · 07/07/2022 07:25

The NI secretary has now gone too.

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