WWYD baby next door screaming 20 mins now

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Parents outside having a smoke.

I just came in from work. Popped upstairs to get something. Hear child crying (their bedroom next to my bathroom). Hear the bedroom door shut loudly next door. Increase in crying from child.
Next thing I know both parents are outside in their back garden. Definitely can hear child as directly below bedroom. Child is hysterically screaming. Child just over a year.

I've been upstairs 25 mins now and they are still crying.

Frequently hear child cry for extended periods overnight but not this hysterically and always assumed parents would be with them as I wouldn't necessarily be able to hear parents trying to calm an upset child.
Often hear them shouting at their older child.

Call Social services?

If you are concerned then give them a call. People on here saying you’d just be wasting their time etc well great, they’ll work out if they need to be concerned they are the experts so leave it to them to make the decision whether there is a concern. If I left my baby to cry for so long without checking I wouldn’t blame anyone for reporting it as they have no idea what’s really going on. Too many horrible things happening so better safe than sorry. It goes against my maternal instincts to leave a baby crying for so long without trying to comfort them. If there is pnd then even more of reason for the parents to get external help.

On the title I would say YABU. DD (now 25) would cry for 3+ hours every night for about 5 months. Dr said it was colic but looking back I think it was silent reflux. She was in my arms the whole time except for one night when I was on my knees and just couldnt do it so I left her to cry for about half an hour.

But from what you have posted, YANBU. As others have said, raise your concerns and let SS make the call. Now is a good time to do it as windows are open due to the heat so you have plausible deniability.

@Nanananananana99 the problem is that for my DS the only thing that would calm him was me picking him up and holding him. Nothing else. And it had to be me.

Do you think I was in any fit state to function after spending hours holding a toddler all night?

I wish somebody had made the call when I was little.... I was being brutally beaten & emotionally neglected. They all loved my parents though and saw me as the 'handful' and minded their own business.

I nearly died. Multiple times

Since when does 2 parents smoking outside equal extreme danger.
I grew up in 80s when virtually everyone's parents smoked. I don't know anyone who was in danger.

SS for a crying child? I'd understand if raised voices were heard or other concerning noises but some people do leave babies to cry (not me I'm totally against that but that's my choice e for my children) and it's not illegal - it's even recommended by some professionals. As a pp said no one calls as for this alone in real life and I bet most of the people recommend it wouldn't either.

This is obviously terrible and I am so sorry you went through that.

Importantly there is no evidence these parents are doing anything similar, they are standing outside so evidently not physically harming the child at this time.

@SlatsandFlaps So sorry to hear this - I hope it got found eventually as a child and you had/have support.

As I said on my first post - Filling in the NSPCC form or non-emergency police form would allow a concern being raised re the shouting and crying - sometimes there may be other concerns in the background and support can be offered or just monitored. Statistically so much is missed and the benefits of passing on observations on usually outweigh risks.

@Merryoldgoat I agree as to me leaving a child to cry is awful, I never did this with my DC, always stayed with him to comfort him.

He turned out to be a great sleeper as his needs were met and he's now a confident, successful young man who has always known he is loved.

Thank you for the information about the differences. Neither works in the long term to my mind.

Thank you for the information about the differences. Neither works in the long term to my mind.

It's not for me but there are plenty people who it has worked for who would disagree with you. Just a different parenting style same as you might not approve of someone giving their baby juice in a bottle or weaning before 6 months, not using purée or even (in England where it's still legal) smacking as punishment.

Yes report. If they are just letting the baby cry it out that can be easily explained.

Look up baby P.

The neglect and abuse of children relies on the community being vigilant and looking out for children.

Ffs.Tiny baby crying for FIFTY FIVE MINUTES.BOTH parents OUTSIDE smoking.why two of them outside??. One parent has threatened poster before over a parking issue!! She's now scared to mention crying child to them. So probably too scared to say anything if she hears abuse to children?? I know what I would do.

Look up Baby P..... Nightmares inevitable.

55 minutes!!!!!!

Yes, but when science moves on and parenting approaches are proved to cause harm to the baby t would be better to heed the advice of professionals.

Weening before 6 months causes the baby lifelong digestive problems.

13 months isn’t a ‘tiny baby’, is it?

Neglect is a form of child abuse and it can be done while standing outside.

www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/neglect/

@Barelyfunctioning3 ss being stretched is surely irrelevant. If they decide after the call that they are struggling but not to the extent that they need ss support then surely they would refer the family to the health visitor team for support instead.

Women should get much more support all round, especially for PND but I still think the child should be the number one priority when deciding to report potential neglect.

I was just responding to the comment about being beaten. Clearly the baby was not being beaten.

I wouldnt report for this alone. Maybe keep an eye though.

Omg.Goldfinchonthelawn.thats absolutely gutwrenching to read.