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This country😩Private Eye have got it right.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/06/2022 20:30

How many more ways to fuck up the country can this government invent?

I’m 58 and have never ever seen a government so full of lying, corrupt twats who just don’t give a shit.

And as l grew up under Thatchet l think that’s saying something! It’s like a horror show watching them.

This country😩Private Eye have got it right.
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Sloth66 · 16/06/2022 09:15

Private Eye does a great job investigating then publicising the ineptitude and corruption of this complete disgrace and embarrassment of a government.

I’ve been a long term subscriber, they seem more effective in this role than Labour,

Eeksteek · 16/06/2022 09:18

Wrongkindofovercoat · 15/06/2022 21:49

@GodneySaysWorkBitch pockets you say ? I love a pocket , although with brain fog, I always end up patting myself down looking for stuff, like a slowed down Steps dance routine, with less glitter and more thread veins and grey hair.

What can we actually do though ? I am happy to email my MP, rarely does he vote the way I would like him to, but he always sends a reply using quality note paper which is a nice distraction from the endless increasing bills.
I would strike but as a nurse they have me by the short and curlies because I do actually care about the people under my care, unlike them.
Not mad keen on violence, I don't have much stamina when it comes to running, and my aim is poor when it comes to throwing stuff, as the bin at work will testify, so count me out of any molotov cocktail action.
Happy to parcipate in anything legal, that doesn't involve running, violence or chucking stuff.

The only thing I can think of is to boycott anything that they have financial gain from.

The only problem is that, by now, that’s fucking everything. Maybe if we targeted one at a time?

I have long said that although I understand MPs can’t really have performance related-targets, they should have enforceable conduct standards. Things like giving yourselves disproportionate pay rises, cheating on expenses, law-breaking, illegally poroging parliament and sleeping on the job are not politics, they are conduct issues. There should be a politically independent body responsible for enforcing standards with the ability to impose actual consequences. Not fines, because they are merely tokens to people who have millions and aren’t in the job for the money. Anyone else with an ordinary job would face gross misconduct charges for these actions, and likely be fired, but MPs just get to say sorry (sometimes) and move on? Not on.

It’s just a game to him. There are no consequences for him or anyone he knows from ruining the NHS or plunging us into recession. He doesn’t care if people starve or freeze. He’s a child and the country is his playground. We aren’t real people to him at all. It’s appalling.

My theory is he’s a disposable prime minister. Brexit was always a grenade with the pin pulled out and was going to explode in their faces whatever they did. The only way was to put an obvious fool in charge, then sack him and blame him for being a fool (and the public for voting for him). They tried it with a woman first, but she wasn’t enough of a fool to accept their terms, so they had to resort to Johnson. They have been exceptionally lucky that there was a pandemic and a war to mask the effects, but they didn’t see that coming and now, we’re stuck with him because he is utterly immoral and won’t resign. So much for democracy!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2022 09:21

tootiredtoocare · 16/06/2022 08:36

Unfortunately we're back to the state of a horrendous Tory party (except they're much, much worse) who can do what they choose because there is no effective or electable opposition. I, like many other traditional Labour voters, am completely politically homeless, there currently isn't a party that I want to vote for. When I vote, it will be for my current MP because she's a good MP and we're a red constituency so it won't be significant. If I was in a borderline constituency though where my vote might actually count, I don't know what I'd do.

Exactly my position.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/06/2022 09:23

I don't wish to sound like I'm defending the current government but it's obvious none of the posters on this thread were poor while Thatcher was PM. The lack of understanding is absolutely shocking! We're still dealing with the fallout from Cameron's and Osborne's fortunately failed attempt to recreate Thatcherism and its absolute hatred of (and focus on punishing) those of us in poverty for being poor but the situation today doesn't compare to back then. Now as a nation we're extremely comfortable. Back then, well there's no comparison.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2022 09:29

torquewench · 16/06/2022 07:33

I think its worse than that. I think the quality of aĺl of our politicians of whatever flavour is at an all time low, not just the tories.

Yes. I think a lot of this is down to never having had a career totally unrelated to politics.

ElephantsFart · 16/06/2022 09:48

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/06/2022 09:23

I don't wish to sound like I'm defending the current government but it's obvious none of the posters on this thread were poor while Thatcher was PM. The lack of understanding is absolutely shocking! We're still dealing with the fallout from Cameron's and Osborne's fortunately failed attempt to recreate Thatcherism and its absolute hatred of (and focus on punishing) those of us in poverty for being poor but the situation today doesn't compare to back then. Now as a nation we're extremely comfortable. Back then, well there's no comparison.

It’s disingenuous to say that the nation is ‘extremely comfortable.’ You sound like my mother. A worrying large number of people in much broader sets of circumstances are struggling to put food on the table these days and it’s harder to fix because there are more underlying economic structural reasons for their poverty.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/06/2022 10:02

I was poor when Thatcher was in power. She presided over massive youth unemployment rates. I was on the dole for a year.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/06/2022 10:04

And l started the thread!!! So yes l was poor under Thatcher!

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/06/2022 10:39

I was poor under Thatcher, still poor under Major, become disabled under Blair and Brown and got disproportionately targeted by Cameron and May because I'm disabled and I'm currently struggling to pay my bills and eat under Johnson

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2022 12:11

Lord Geidt's resignation letter is damning stuff. www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/16/lord-geidt-letter-resignation-boris-johnson-ethics-adviser

I am retired now (phew) but during my working life I had some involvement in recruitment. I can honestly say that never once did any panel I sat on appoint someone to even a lowly position with no responsibility just because s/he seemed like a good laugh. We looked for intelligence, common sense, competence, honesty, reliability and a good work ethic. Ability to fit in with others was desirable but would never have overridden that first list. I suppose serial adultery would never have come to our attention at the recruitment stage, but someone who was openly having affairs with colleagues would never have been a good promotion prospect.

As far as I can make out, though, a substantial number of UK voters backed Johnson because he has funny hair and seems like one of the lads. Hmm

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 16/06/2022 12:16

LizzieSiddal · 16/06/2022 07:56

Hrpuffnstuff1 I presume you don’t read a newspaper (other than the Sun or the Mail), or watch the news because otherwise you’d be aware of the facts re our economy.

What facts, list them.
I don't want hyperbole, I want real figures, and no I don't want foodbank usage or expansion as proof. When the concept of the foodbank is rising because of political will, of course, demand will rise, build and people will come.
Where are all these starving children?

Dp and I are In manufacturing and construction respectively, both are booming, salaries are up, and jobs are aplenty across all industries. Private custom is stronger than ever.
So where is this recession?

I don't read newspapers I don't have time, although I do have a first-class economics degree. In fact, I have 2, one in Business and the other in Political.

Fuel rises are spiking inflation, demand is outstripping supply in other industries. That's what happens when the global economy closes for 2yrs.
I do believe after 2 decades of wage suppression, costs for goods and services will rise and find a new price point.
So it's so long for paying tuppence for trades and other technically skilled forms of work.

Blossomtoes · 16/06/2022 12:37

Yorkshirebred · 15/06/2022 20:49

And thus it was ever so......

It wasn’t though. That’s the entire point. I’m 69 and have never seen a government anywhere near approaching the sheer awfulness of this one. It’s making me sick and ashamed.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/06/2022 12:39

I don't read newspapers I don't have time, although I do have a first-class economics degree. In fact, I have 2, one in Business and the other in Political

You have time to post on here however.[ confused]

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dontcallmelen · 16/06/2022 12:43

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/06/2022 10:39

I was poor under Thatcher, still poor under Major, become disabled under Blair and Brown and got disproportionately targeted by Cameron and May because I'm disabled and I'm currently struggling to pay my bills and eat under Johnson

Same here & unless anyone has had experience of applying for some of the disabled benefits, you have no idea how utterly humiliating that process is.

Dexy007 · 16/06/2022 12:49

Well why did you vote for them?!?!? If you answer to that is ‘I didn’t, the majority did’……why don’t you leave?

this is regrettably democracy. But you hold a passport. Get a visa. Go! (I did)

Blossomtoes · 16/06/2022 12:55

Dexy007 · 16/06/2022 12:49

Well why did you vote for them?!?!? If you answer to that is ‘I didn’t, the majority did’……why don’t you leave?

this is regrettably democracy. But you hold a passport. Get a visa. Go! (I did)

How’s that going to work for me? The world isn’t putting a welcome mat down for 69 year old retirees. This really isn’t currently the country I want to get old and die in but I have no choice.

tobee · 16/06/2022 13:13

Who remembers the dying days of the Tories under Major? An era mostly associated with sleaze, stories coming out weekly? Thought that was the nadir

Absolutely nothing on this government.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2022 13:14

Vividly. Tories riven in two over, guess what, the EU!

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/06/2022 13:15

We were poor under the end of Thatcher (poor doesn't cover it, I still live in one of the poorest sink estates in the UK, destitute and deprived is probably more like it) and although I'm still bottom-of-the-heap poor on carer's allowance, there's no comparison to what it was like then. Thatcher was an enemy and to see this thread with people salivating over her is horrifying. We don't have poverty and deprivation on the scale it was then. It's like a different world. Nostalgia for Thatcher, I never dreamed I'd see it!

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 16/06/2022 13:27

Dexy007 · 16/06/2022 12:49

Well why did you vote for them?!?!? If you answer to that is ‘I didn’t, the majority did’……why don’t you leave?

this is regrettably democracy. But you hold a passport. Get a visa. Go! (I did)

Would love to but can’t get a passports (no one to sign), no visa, don’t have any desirable skills, don’t have the required savings or sponsor. Very near retirement - yep we are a catch to the overseas employers.

tobee · 16/06/2022 13:31

Don't like anything about Thatcherism. She did immeasurable harm to the country. Destroyed communities. Demonised people who were deprived through no fault over their own. Propagated Victorian values on morals like single mothers, gay people etc. but excusing Cecil Parkinson who tried to deny and abandon his child with his mistress (very Victorian attitude). No salivating here.

Just impossible to imagine her partying through her own lockdown. Or all (most?) Johnson has changed the entire moral code. Basically, obliterated it. And for what? To keep him in power, money for cronies, with the Tory press sticking their oar in when needed to aid and abet him.

tobee · 16/06/2022 13:33

Should say:-

"Or all (most?) prime ministers"

Blossomtoes · 16/06/2022 13:35

Exactly @tobee. Yearning for some political integrity is hardly salivating over Thatcher and her vile works.

EvilPea · 16/06/2022 13:39

as a country we are a fucking disgrace.
im so so so ashamed of our government.

it’s not us as people. They don’t represent us, or our views.
what can we do?

i don’t vote Tory, I’m in a true blue borough. Our mp is so far up boris’s arse they can smell his dinner cooking. I’ve emailed them numerous times. They copy and paste the party line

.
how do we fix it.
how can I change things?

i don’t want United Kingdom to break up, but I cannot blame the devolved nations for wanting to distance themselves.

worriedatthistime · 16/06/2022 14:13

We haven't had a thread like this for at least a day