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I’m not a royalist but I love Kate for this..

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kateward11 · 05/06/2022 19:12

I’d love to know what she threatened him with under her breath 😂

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CanaryShoulderedThorn · 05/06/2022 23:59

Can't imagine how knackered Kate must feel, I find one event exhausting. Had a wedding a couple of weeks ago and I didn't get up until noon the next day.
I expect Camilla and the rest of them feel the same.

anonymousobserver · 06/06/2022 00:01

The two older kids are lovely, especially the boy - you can tell he’s got the weight of the world on his shoulders, but he’s resigned himself to it, poor little sod. The little one’s a horror - they should have left him at home. Bet his mother wishes she had.

bluebull · 06/06/2022 00:04

This is something my ds would do and it will be my worse nightmare where my child acting up being broadcasted to millions while people criticising my parenting skills so I don't admire being in her position. I have a 3 yo so I totally understand and see how difficult it can be to get them to sit through events, restaurants or whatever. Some kids will, some kids won't, some kids will try their luck but then will behave. Whether being a royal and being brought up by nannies and in best schools wouldn't make a difference if you have a cheeky, defiant kid. I would love to see those parents with perfectly behaved children try getting Louis or my son to sit through it. It's nothing to do with your parenting, it's all about your child's personality.

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AppleKatie · 05/06/2022 23:16

It’s not normal as in ‘tolerated’ it’s normal as in can happen infrequently.

it was a few seconds and she did put a stop to it. Practically with her hands tied behind her back, she couldn’t make a scene or appear too bothered with the cameras watching. I’m sure if it had occurred in her own home she would have stopped it much more quickly, but Lois is consciously or unconsciously testing boundaries here. Being out with mummy in ‘work’ mode is new for him and he’s doing what most kids of that age do, finding out what will happen if!

Exactly. She's not a super Mom, he's not an super brat. They're in this moment just a regular Mom and young kid BUT in the ultimate goldfish bowl with a lot of expectations on them both.

Who knows of the thumb on his nose waggle is something he's picked up from nursery and got him on the time out step yesterday. Or the hand over mouth is something done playfully at home in other circs.

A child who can test inappropriate behaviour safely against an adult carer is a secure child. He's learning what is and isn't OK. She knows she's damned if she does and damned of she doesn't.

George seems like he's got a very old head on him. Charlotte has displayed the odd wilful moment but looks like she enjoys the whole thing. Louis has to find his way.

LouisRenault · 06/06/2022 00:26

I noticed it was all left to Kate

At different times he was sitting on his dad's lap and on his granddad's lap. There were at least three adults engaging with him during the afternoon. And that's just what we saw when the camera happened to be on him.

The little one’s a horror

No, he's four.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 06/06/2022 00:34

Little rascal I'd say she was mortified as many mothers were before her without millions watching.

He's the 3rd child too, more character plus I'd bet Charlotte is a second mum to him, bossing him about, the 3rd child's patience can wear thin.

bubblesbubbles11 · 06/06/2022 00:35

It is impossible at this early age to know if his character is innate (i.e. come his teenage years it will all come out and he will rebel big time) or whether the expectation that a 4 year old sit through 4 days of this is just too much.

My own son was a bit of a monster like this but at a slightly younger age (and very obvs not on such a global stage). Fingers crossed that his teenage years do not end up being big style rebellion.

I am probably projecting but I did find the way he put his hand over his mothers mouth momentarily disturbing - as in - has he seen others in his home do that to his mother. But as i say that is probably just me. As others have said it is likely just how his mother interacts with him and he mirrors it. Kate has such a professional and spontaneous smile, if she is stressed out by it you would not automatically know. Grace under pressure indeed!

Dinoteeth · 06/06/2022 00:54

I am probably projecting but I did find the way he put his hand over his mothers mouth momentarily disturbing - as in - has he seen others in his home do that to his mother

I think your putting 2+2 together to get 5.
One of mine was exactly like that would attempt to shut me up. Nobody has ever done it to me

RachelGreeneGreep · 06/06/2022 01:03

Comedycook · 05/06/2022 22:45

I thought the whole thing was adorable. George and Charlotte are obviously old enough to know they need to be on their best behaviour and they were. Louis is still at that unpredictable age. Kate must have nerves of steel! I was nervous just watching them on the balcony during the national anthem. It felt like a really serious, important and historic moment. Probably the last time we will see the Queen on the balcony I think. I can't imagine standing there with a four year old praying they can just behave for a couple of minutes! She seems like a great mum.

Exactly!

Andouillette · 06/06/2022 01:17

AngelinaFibres · 05/06/2022 21:59

I have brought up 2 sons and I taught children from nursery to year 6 for 20 years. I have watched the clip several times and I am a bit surprised at the gestures he uses. Covering his mother's mouth twice and then waving dismissively at her whilst looking away is very rude. I would expect a child to use the thumb on the nose gesture to another child , but not to a parent ,and never ever in the company of both parents and grandparents. Maybe times have changed but I wouldn't have done that to my parents and my children wouldn't have done it to me. Physical punishment was never used to me or by me to my children. His situation is unusual and the children have probably done too much this weekend but I am surprised by his behaviour. Maybe I am out of date with how things are.

I agree about the behaviour, none of mine would have done that. To be fair, this was a highly unusual situation and none of the (utterly non physical) options to deal with it that I would have used with my 3 were available to her. She handled it well given the circumstances.

Meltinthemiddle · 06/06/2022 01:22

We also have to remember he is the youngest of 3 and does have alot of cousins and other influences around him Some of his behaviour maybe learnt or he simply maybe testing the boundaries. Kate dealt with it brilliantly in the best way she could in public. It could have easily escalated into a tantrum. 3/4 is a tricky age where children find their voice and come into their own. I found it alot harder then the so called terrible 2's! All children are different and unique and it doesn't matter how good a parent you are children can be cheeky and push the boundaries. Obviously those being judgemental were lucky of your child was a perfect angel though I'm pretty sure they didn't have this much pressure or scrutiny on everything they say or do at this age!

Meh2020 · 06/06/2022 01:27

Such a lovely family and Kate did exceptionally well. My now older DC used to put their hand over my mouth when I was saying something they didn’t want to hear! So far they are relatively well behaved and no damage done yet with my lax parenting!!

It was lovely seeing them with their wider family too, Charlotte saying hello to her cousins, Louis and Mike Tindall, Louis and his grandpa!

Im no royalist but was super impressed with how the Jubilee went and the thoughtfulness… I hope I am not coming across as too morbid but I think the Queen played a massive part in planning key moments - like the trip to Wales (assuming William and Kate will become the Prince and Princess) and the balcony this evening. Oh and the Paddington Bear film - I imagine her great grandchildren were all besides themselves seeing that!!

(Spoiler: this part is about Harry. I wonder if he misses his family at all. Appreciate was his decision but I think it must be hard for him all the same.)

kateandme · 06/06/2022 02:03

Imagine what we'd be saying about Megan if this was Archie though!

GADDay · 06/06/2022 03:31

Good lord, there is so much judgement and bullshit floating around the interweb about this.

What do people expect? A robot/hologram? This is a little boy. An entirely normal little chap who did remarkably well. Given the noise, the fact that he was probably bored and wanted to watch Cbeebies or crack out the Playdoh - he did so well.

Have the naysayers forgotten the reality of having a four year old. I think Kate is a wonderful Mum and probably feels like total shit being called otherwise.

GADDay · 06/06/2022 03:43

bubblesbubbles11 · 06/06/2022 00:35

It is impossible at this early age to know if his character is innate (i.e. come his teenage years it will all come out and he will rebel big time) or whether the expectation that a 4 year old sit through 4 days of this is just too much.

My own son was a bit of a monster like this but at a slightly younger age (and very obvs not on such a global stage). Fingers crossed that his teenage years do not end up being big style rebellion.

I am probably projecting but I did find the way he put his hand over his mothers mouth momentarily disturbing - as in - has he seen others in his home do that to his mother. But as i say that is probably just me. As others have said it is likely just how his mother interacts with him and he mirrors it. Kate has such a professional and spontaneous smile, if she is stressed out by it you would not automatically know. Grace under pressure indeed!

Yes, you are projecting.

You being disturbed is what's odd.

problembottom · 06/06/2022 04:35

This made me smile because he reminds me of DD, 3.5. She’s loud and expressive and needs careful management. Strangers often tell me she’ll “get far in life” and I’m not sure it’s a compliment! I think if your preschooler is more of a passive quiet type it’s awfully easy to judge…

DD’s put her hand over my mouth before when she’s tired and doesn’t like what I’m asking her to do. I can confirm DP has never done this to me! All Kate could do under the circumstances was keep him sweet - it’s not like she could stand up and take him home.

Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 05:13

kateward11 · 05/06/2022 19:25

Woah they all seem to think he should know better… I mean, he’s obviously being rude, but he’s had to sit through about ten hours of largely boring crap by this point…

Two hours of amazing spectacle - about the same length as a feature film and ten times more immersive.

ohfook · 06/06/2022 05:42

As the mum of kids who got bored watching it on the TV and went off to do something else, KM has my respect. I dread taking my bunch to weddings. A full four days of activities would've sent me over the edge.

Also his behaviour to me seemed totally normal, he was a bit cheeky, as kids that age are, mum removed his hand and distracted him. Literally a totally normal parenting moment except with half the country watching. Agreed though I would've loved it if she'd got her phone out and let him watch hey duggee or something!

ohfook · 06/06/2022 05:44

One last thing. I've noticed over the weekend it's always been kate left with the youngest and William with the older two.

ChairP0se9to5 · 06/06/2022 05:54

@bubblesbubbles11 ha well I'm going to shoot down two of your theories. My son was a MONKEY with go faster stripes at 4. Would never, ever do anything he was expected to do. Now at 16 he's quite quiet really. And he used to do that too, put his hand over my mouth. All his own inspiration there. He definitely never saw that at home.

I thought I saw Kate suppress a smile, like she was thinking, oh no, this ones going to be on twitter.

ChairP0se9to5 · 06/06/2022 05:56

kateandme · 06/06/2022 02:03

Imagine what we'd be saying about Megan if this was Archie though!

The same. Even though she is criticised for her merching and going on Oprah and judging / cutting off her father, I think this would have been very relatable.

Blossomtoes · 06/06/2022 06:04

ohfook · 06/06/2022 05:44

One last thing. I've noticed over the weekend it's always been kate left with the youngest and William with the older two.

It seemed to be the Queen who was “left with him” on Thursday!

itsgettingweird · 06/06/2022 06:18

ohfook · 06/06/2022 05:44

One last thing. I've noticed over the weekend it's always been kate left with the youngest and William with the older two.

I noticed that and assumed it maybe because William and George are heirs and it's more about that image of them being seen together rather than her parenting the younger 2?

PinkSyCo · 06/06/2022 06:21

I’ve watched the vid 3 times and I can’t see that Kate did anything special or indeed said anything under her breath. It just looks like a pretty normal interaction between a mum and a cheeky, and most likely bored, 4 year old to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

TullyApplebottom · 06/06/2022 06:35

GADDay · 06/06/2022 03:31

Good lord, there is so much judgement and bullshit floating around the interweb about this.

What do people expect? A robot/hologram? This is a little boy. An entirely normal little chap who did remarkably well. Given the noise, the fact that he was probably bored and wanted to watch Cbeebies or crack out the Playdoh - he did so well.

Have the naysayers forgotten the reality of having a four year old. I think Kate is a wonderful Mum and probably feels like total shit being called otherwise.

Given the state of the people criticising her on Twitter, in the unlikely event she’s reading, I’d urge her not to take too much notice.
she does appear to be living rent free in a lot of very sad peoples heads tho