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I was the recipient of unwanted advice from a random man today.

529 replies

Pollydonia · 22/05/2022 20:32

..and actually remembered to say " thanks Random Man !" He just looked confused but another woman near by burst out laughing.
It was in the gym, I was doing my own thing , he tried to tell me to do it " his" way .
Seriously though, I'm 49 so I'm less likely to be intimidated by shit like this. I've also emailed the gym as a heads up .

OP posts:
Stompythedinosaur · 23/05/2022 01:48

Singingtherapy · 22/05/2022 23:28

Massive overreaction. It's ok that you found it annoying but do you really not have the capacity to pause, acknowledge that he didn't mean any offence and move on? I also don't get how misandry is ok. If he'd had brown skin would you have said 'thanks random Indian'?

A woman objecting to being oppressed is not showing misandry.

There seem to be a lot of posters throwing "misandry" around as an accusation on my right now.

For women to have a fair slice of the pie, men have got to have less. Decent men recognise this. It isn't misandry to want me to have only half of what is available in society (space, money, attention) despite some men behaving like big babies when asked to curb themselves a bit.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 23/05/2022 01:56

Staggered at the number of apologists for Random Man mansplaining!!

Jeez. No wonder so many of them continue to get away with it.

Well done @Pollydonia - absolutely sound comeback - if he tries it again, you could go with additional "Thank you SO MUCH for your completely unnecessary and unwanted intervention - it's AMAZING how you managed to know all about my needs and capacity just by watching me from the other side of the gym! Now perhaps let me get on with my work out MY way?"
But only if you can be bothered. I think what you said the first time was fine. Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/05/2022 02:02

TheGetaway · 23/05/2022 01:10

and if it been another woman?

Would that have been ok?
Would you have emailed the gym?

Interestingly, over the course of my many decades on this earth, I have never been sexually harassed and intimidated by a woman. And I've been around a crap ton of lesbians. The reason for these policies in a gym, and for generally having an issue with Random Man is this:

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Appeases
Random Man: Ooooooo she likes me, I shall press my advantage

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Ignores
Random Man: Fucking rude bitch what's your problem?

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Fuck off
Random Man: Cunt

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Fuck off
Random Man: I was only trying to be helpful, I'm a <drumroll> Nice Guy. You misandrist women, you hate Nice Guys, you like cunts. Maybe I'll be a cunt, do you like that? Fucking feminazis.

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Smiles and chats
Random Man: She likes me I'd better touch her
Woman: Please don't
Random Man: Fucking cock tease

There is no response which a nasty man won't find a way to exploit. And the actual nice guys (not Nice Guys) don't do any of this. I met DH as a random man in a bar. But he didn't tell me what to do, didn't try anything until it was REALLY obvious we liked each other, didn't do any of the above. I don't hate men but my experience of Random Man isn't good. And if there weren't quite so many of them, wouldn't that be better for the ACTUAL nice men we'd ACTUALLY like to talk to.

ThisMammaCat · 23/05/2022 02:07

I bet Random Man is still confused and shaking his head 😆

Aquamarine1029 · 23/05/2022 02:12

Johnnysgirl · 22/05/2022 22:47

It can't be policy to prohibit people speaking to each other Confused
You may be interpreting the word "approach" slightly differently to how it was intended.

Why are you defending this arsehole? He absolutely did not just speak to the op.

Aquamarine1029 · 23/05/2022 02:15

RamsayEaster · 22/05/2022 23:28

Poor guy maybe only wanted to give you some advice and was maybe generally being nice 😞

You go up to total strangers and give them advice they didn't fucking ask for, regarding their body and fitness that you know nothing about?

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 23/05/2022 02:17

TheGetaway · 23/05/2022 01:10

and if it been another woman?

Would that have been ok?
Would you have emailed the gym?

Another woman wouldn't have done this 🤷🏼‍♀️

Downunderduchess · 23/05/2022 02:18

I remind myself of this often so if (when) the time comes I shall be prepared with my response!

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/05/2022 02:26

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/05/2022 02:02

Interestingly, over the course of my many decades on this earth, I have never been sexually harassed and intimidated by a woman. And I've been around a crap ton of lesbians. The reason for these policies in a gym, and for generally having an issue with Random Man is this:

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Appeases
Random Man: Ooooooo she likes me, I shall press my advantage

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Ignores
Random Man: Fucking rude bitch what's your problem?

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Fuck off
Random Man: Cunt

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Fuck off
Random Man: I was only trying to be helpful, I'm a <drumroll> Nice Guy. You misandrist women, you hate Nice Guys, you like cunts. Maybe I'll be a cunt, do you like that? Fucking feminazis.

Random Man: Something random
Woman: Smiles and chats
Random Man: She likes me I'd better touch her
Woman: Please don't
Random Man: Fucking cock tease

There is no response which a nasty man won't find a way to exploit. And the actual nice guys (not Nice Guys) don't do any of this. I met DH as a random man in a bar. But he didn't tell me what to do, didn't try anything until it was REALLY obvious we liked each other, didn't do any of the above. I don't hate men but my experience of Random Man isn't good. And if there weren't quite so many of them, wouldn't that be better for the ACTUAL nice men we'd ACTUALLY like to talk to.

Another brilliant post MrsTP.

GoodThinkingMax · 23/05/2022 02:31

Pollydonia · 22/05/2022 22:08

I emailed because it was unmanned at the time( keycode entry ) and there is a policy of not bothering other members and they have asked for issues to be emailed to them so that repeated incidents can be looked at ( CCTV)

What an excellent policy! Aimed at making women feel safe and valued when the gym is unstaffed. That's great to hear.

GoodThinkingMax · 23/05/2022 02:34

He approached me, got in my personal space, leaned on the back of the equipment I was using ( leg press) and told me what weight to use when he had no idea of any physical problems I may have.

Whaaaa? He can just fuck off and then fuck off some more.

Although I can usually leg press about twice what most Random Men can.

But they can all fuck off, telling you how much weight you should use. It's an entirely personal thing.

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WibblyWobblyJane · 23/05/2022 02:56

Neverendingdust · 22/05/2022 22:34

In the gym I’m more inclined to think he may have been giving advice if you were doing something incorrectly, likely to cause injury or issues after repeating the same mistakes over and over.

Have you ever met men? Never been to a gym?

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 03:02

It's ok that you found it annoying but do you really not have the capacity to pause, acknowledge that he didn't mean any offence and move on?

Hmm

Someone else who has never been to a gym.

Glad you think it's ok to find something 'annoying' though. Thanks for that.

NumberTheory · 23/05/2022 03:04

Lykia · 22/05/2022 23:19

Would you have said thank you random woman and emailed the gym if a woman had approached you?

I think it’s highly unlikely that a woman would have done what this man did. But the great thing about the gym’s policy is that everyone can email them about any unwanted approaches and the gym then checks to see if it’s a pattern. So a one off is no problem but someone who, routinely deliberately or otherwise, makes other users uncomfortable can be spoken to and then banned if it continues. It’s a great way to handle women being subject to unwanted attention - which has been a big problem in lots of gyms.

WibblyWobblyJane · 23/05/2022 03:38

TheGetaway · 23/05/2022 01:10

and if it been another woman?

Would that have been ok?
Would you have emailed the gym?

Where I live, if he’d gone up to another man and tried this crap he would have gotten much more than a sarcastic thank you!

SomersetONeil · 23/05/2022 03:44

NotABeliever · 22/05/2022 23:09

Maybe he's foreign and in his culture it's perfectly ok to talk to strangers especially if you're trying to be helpful? I think your reaction was very disproportionate.

LOL, you can usually tell when someone’s ‘foreign’ the minute they open their mouth and start talking.

Cherryblossoms85 · 23/05/2022 03:45

It's always the leg press! I had that all the time until I quit the gym. Hate it and I never say anything.

SomersetONeil · 23/05/2022 03:50

Neverendingdust · 22/05/2022 23:18

Eeesh the man hate is strong on this one, must be hard for you all… life and all that

Man hate…? What?

Are you saying all men behave like this - go up and women and butt in where they’re not welcome to tell them what to do?

I don’t know any men in real life who do this.

The OP - and many of us - have a problem with fuckwit men. Not men.

So as YOU think all men behave like fuckwits, you’re the man-hater. Not us.

Summerfun54321 · 23/05/2022 03:56

Hands up anyone here minimising this who also goes to a gym! Anyone?

Well done OP this is totally unacceptable gym behaviour that absolutely needs to be reported to the gym.

TheLadyofShalott1 · 23/05/2022 04:17

Haveipeedontheircornflakes · 22/05/2022 22:02

I seriously don't understand why you needed to email the gym? Heads up on what exactly?! 😂

I agree that your answer to him OP was great, but I also agree with @Haveipeedontheircornflakes

I have no idea what you expect the gym to do about it? Do you think they should put notices up around the gym and male changing rooms saying - "no mansplaining allowed - at the threat of death, or doing1000 press-ups at the end of the session or banishment from the club?

CliantheLang · 23/05/2022 04:18

MushyPeasPrincess · 22/05/2022 22:57

@Lolliepoppie I would have advised you to find the original Random man thread which was brilliant but the search function is now so fucked you wouldn't have a hope of tracing it! Grin

This one? www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_classics/4308248-The-random-comment-men

TheLadyofShalott1 · 23/05/2022 04:30

Sorry OP, I had missed your later mention that the gym asking to be emailed about any approaches like that. Have a glass of 🍷or a pint of 🍺 from me, as an apology - sorry but I can't afford to offer spirits!

WouldBeGood · 23/05/2022 04:40

Well done @Pollydonia

one reason I was worried about starting to do weights on my own at the gym was because I’m a magnet for unsolicited advice from random men. I told my PT about this, and he told me to tell random men to fuck off 🤣