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So happy about Australian election result

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StartupRepair · 21/05/2022 22:53

Australia has just thrown out its tired, misogynistic, racist and corrupt government and elected a Labour Greens coalition with an agenda for action on climate, social cohesion and implementation of the First Nations Uluru statement.
This is huge. It happened despite a Murdoch dominated press. Our new Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, was brought up in public housing by a single mother with a disability. Finally a new era. Lot of celebration at our house!

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Gremlinsateit · 22/05/2022 11:42

Dishh · 22/05/2022 11:10

@Oscarthedog

That is my concern too. Also the greens defence spending position makes me worried with the emergence of China and the resurgence of Russia.

I'm not sure that the Greens would get to influence defence spending to such a degree. They can have a position and the ALP may need to negotiate and adjust some bills to get them approved in the Senate, but that would be the extent of it.

Also, the Coalition talks about defence a lot, but they had an opportunity to try to limit China’s presence in the Solomons, and instead they acted against their own Defence Minister’s advice.

Pickabearanybear · 22/05/2022 11:46

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TheSandgroper · 22/05/2022 11:58

This is unbelievably impressive, important and everything else you can that of.

www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2016/aug/31/wiradjuri-woman-sings-linda-burney-into-parliament-for-her-maiden-speech-video

Maverick101 · 22/05/2022 12:25

It's not a bloody coalition!!! Labor might need support from the Greens (and other Independents) but they're sure as hell not entering into an official coalition agreement.

milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 12:29

Postal and pre-poll votes are still being counted over next fortnight.

Meanwhile both The Australian and The Financial Review are predicting Labor will form a majority government with 77 seats.

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 13:23

milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 04:49

Don't you have a more local parade you can go and rain on?

Locality is irrelevant. The same things are happening all over the world, because the same people are controlling politics everywhere in the world. The people you vote for don't serve you, they serve their masters at the central banks. And until the majority of voters understand that basic fact, nothing will ever change.

milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 13:34

The people you vote for don't serve you, they serve their masters at the central banks. And until the majority of voters understand that basic fact, nothing will ever change.

So arrogant!

This is the first time in nearly a decade there is some hope for many Australians. You know absolutely nothing about our political system or this new prime minister and his values.

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 13:37

silentpool · 22/05/2022 05:55

I'm interested in the view that life will get harder under Greens/Labor. Life is already hard with cost of living rises, rampant housing inflation, weak wage growth etc.

It seems like life may get less easy for the haves who are used to guzzling resources, perhaps? The rest of us already have to live below our means in smaller apartments, watching our power use etc. I don't mind seeing some change coming.

It seems like life may get less easy for the haves who are used to guzzling resources, perhaps? The rest of us already have to live below our means in smaller apartments, watching our power use etc. I don't mind seeing some change coming.

Nope! When inflation hits, and the prices of all the essentials rises, it's always the poorest that suffer most. How could it be any other way? It's the poorest who have the least cushion in their budget, and are least able to absorb the price rises by cutting back on non-essentials. Those who are already struggling to keep their heads above the water level will have drowned long before those who are better off have cut all their non-essential outgoings. If the current trajectory is not halted, the middle classes are going to be well and truly put back in their box, and almost all the gains in living standards since WW2 will disappear in a puff of smoke.

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 13:57

milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 13:34

The people you vote for don't serve you, they serve their masters at the central banks. And until the majority of voters understand that basic fact, nothing will ever change.

So arrogant!

This is the first time in nearly a decade there is some hope for many Australians. You know absolutely nothing about our political system or this new prime minister and his values.

You know absolutely nothing about our political system or this new prime minister and his values.

Oh, I'm sorry if that statement came across as arrogant. You're right, I don't know much about Australian politics, but I don't need to, because I know who pulls the strings and sets the agenda, and it's certainly not the voters.

RingRingRed · 22/05/2022 14:08

Oh well feel free to pop into this thread then @YorkshireDude and talk shit like you do know about Aus politics 🙄

The Murdoch media pulls the strings in Aus and guess what? This time they weren't able to influence like they've done in the past.

If you don't understand the nuances of Aus politics, feel free to you know, shut the fuck up.

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:13

Gremlinsateit · 22/05/2022 11:39

I think Ken Wyatt is quite admirable in many ways, but I think his hands may have been tied by his choice of party, and I’m a big fan of Linda Burney.

Juukan gorge was on his watch, which doesn’t look great. I’m sure he was devastated by it, but also ineffective.

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:21

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 13:23

Locality is irrelevant. The same things are happening all over the world, because the same people are controlling politics everywhere in the world. The people you vote for don't serve you, they serve their masters at the central banks. And until the majority of voters understand that basic fact, nothing will ever change.

People who assume everyone else is stupid never learn. Any basic student of Australian political history can walk through the last century of governments and point to a series of seminal and structural change, some good some bad. We owe our health system, our ndis, conscription or the lack of it, our entire formal recognition of our first peoples, higher education standards, I can go on and on, to various governments. There have been great people in our government (and all over the world) but more importantly there are many good people working hard. It’s so easy to get disillusioned but right now is a moment for hope.

Living standards may indeed drop. People say that like it’s a deal breaker. This will be a result of climate change, not of the efforts to fight it. Tell the people who can’t afford to insure their homes and can’t afford to move so live waiting for the next flood to take away everything, tell the towns destroyed by fire, tell the towns that have been underwater for weeks and haven’t recovered, tell the farmers who’ve suffered under drought and those whose herds have drowned that oh if we fight climate changes living standards will decline. These people are not the privileged middle classes voting teal but they are sure as hell affected. (This will also be a result of multiple global forces at play affecting supply chains operationally, supply of materials, raw materials prices, market prices and exchange rates etc, it’s almost never that simple to be one cause and effect)

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:25

I’m sorry to see Rex Patrick go, that’s a loss.

MarshaBradyo · 22/05/2022 14:30

It’s great news re climate change issues

I didn’t think it would change direction but it has which is good

Will there be change re immigration policy? Or is that mostly agreed upon as it us between parties

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 14:40

RingRingRed · 22/05/2022 14:08

Oh well feel free to pop into this thread then @YorkshireDude and talk shit like you do know about Aus politics 🙄

The Murdoch media pulls the strings in Aus and guess what? This time they weren't able to influence like they've done in the past.

If you don't understand the nuances of Aus politics, feel free to you know, shut the fuck up.

There are no nuances. The bigger picture is all that really matters. And we have a two party duopoly here in the UK, same as you do in Australia. So it's essentially the same setup in both the UK and Australia. I used to believe that voting for the other party could make a difference, but I'm older and wiser now. I got red-pilled, my eyes were opened, and I realised that most politics is just theatre, and you'll always get the same, because the same people pull the strings of both main parties. And because I know how the system works, I can say with almost 100% certainty that Australians will be a lot poorer by the time the next election comes. Same applies to the entire West. Everyone is going to get a lot poorer, because they keep voting for the same puppets without having realised that the entire system is rigged against them.

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 14:52

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:21

People who assume everyone else is stupid never learn. Any basic student of Australian political history can walk through the last century of governments and point to a series of seminal and structural change, some good some bad. We owe our health system, our ndis, conscription or the lack of it, our entire formal recognition of our first peoples, higher education standards, I can go on and on, to various governments. There have been great people in our government (and all over the world) but more importantly there are many good people working hard. It’s so easy to get disillusioned but right now is a moment for hope.

Living standards may indeed drop. People say that like it’s a deal breaker. This will be a result of climate change, not of the efforts to fight it. Tell the people who can’t afford to insure their homes and can’t afford to move so live waiting for the next flood to take away everything, tell the towns destroyed by fire, tell the towns that have been underwater for weeks and haven’t recovered, tell the farmers who’ve suffered under drought and those whose herds have drowned that oh if we fight climate changes living standards will decline. These people are not the privileged middle classes voting teal but they are sure as hell affected. (This will also be a result of multiple global forces at play affecting supply chains operationally, supply of materials, raw materials prices, market prices and exchange rates etc, it’s almost never that simple to be one cause and effect)

Australia has always had floods and droughts.

notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/04/06/australian-floods/

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:58

oh I see, a climate denier. I’m sure that website has been debunked, not least by multiple people who actually worked at bom collecting the data that website has mangled.

fellow threadians, I think we can all move on here.

TheSandgroper · 22/05/2022 15:03

@timeisnotaline Why would you run down Ken Wyatt because of Juukan Gorge? He’s got nothing to do with it. The federal government takes a large amount of cash off the top and that’s it. That’s how the government paid for job keeper etc. And we were called cave dwellers for providing it.

First, it’s a systemic Rio problem. Second, it’s a state government problem. That’s Bill Johnston as Mines Minister or Tony Buti as Aboriginal Affairs Minister. All mines are the responsibity of the respective state government.

YorkshireDude · 22/05/2022 15:10

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 14:58

oh I see, a climate denier. I’m sure that website has been debunked, not least by multiple people who actually worked at bom collecting the data that website has mangled.

fellow threadians, I think we can all move on here.

The term 'climate denier' is an ad-hominem (logical fallacy). Play the ball, not the man.

timeisnotaline · 22/05/2022 15:31

TheSandgroper · 22/05/2022 15:03

@timeisnotaline Why would you run down Ken Wyatt because of Juukan Gorge? He’s got nothing to do with it. The federal government takes a large amount of cash off the top and that’s it. That’s how the government paid for job keeper etc. And we were called cave dwellers for providing it.

First, it’s a systemic Rio problem. Second, it’s a state government problem. That’s Bill Johnston as Mines Minister or Tony Buti as Aboriginal Affairs Minister. All mines are the responsibity of the respective state government.

Agree 1000% it’s a systemic rio problem, absolutely shocking from every board member and senior exec. It’s the only time I’ve written to Joe Aston, to thank him for keeping the topic central until we saw some main stream outrage build. Re Ken Wyatt, I read lots of stuff like this article below and it just made him sound toothless rather than absolutely enraged. Perhaps that’s from my lack of knowledge about the specific jurisdictional roles but that’s also never seemed to stop a politician from loudly declaiming their views and what should be done - it seems in his remit to at least have a very clear and simple answer on if additional responsibility should sit with his dept or not. www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/19/failures-at-every-level-changes-needed-to-stop-destruction-of-aboriginal-heritage-after-juukan-gorge

milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 21:58

I got red-pilled

Oh, ah-ha ha ha ha!

I'm surprised someone as enlightened as you has time to waste on Mumsnet of all places mansplaining "Australian politics" to Australians!

balalake · 22/05/2022 22:18

OP, glad to read you are happy. Let's hope there can be celebrations in the UK when the tired, misogynistic, racist and corrupt government here is voted out of office.

StartupRepair · 22/05/2022 22:24

It is nice to wake up knowing that Morrison and his terrible crew are out of our lives. They consistently treated women as a kind of fringe minority who could be ignored, forgetting that we have 51% of the vote.

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milkyaqua · 22/05/2022 22:47

It must sting extra hard that so many of them have been unseated by women candidates too!

StartupRepair · 22/05/2022 23:45

Crabb nails it. www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-23/election-2022-morrison-women-vote/101089978

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