Boris has been fined - Part 2

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Because this is going to go on and on.....
With more fines

Part 1 here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4528104-boris-has-been-fined-tory-voters-should-he-go

They'll have been working on it for months if not longer and what a good plan to deter people from paying a fortune to traffickers and then risking their lives in a dinghy

Providing safe routes for refugees is better and cheaper but doesn't work well with certain voters.

Anyway, it has to go through parliament first and yes the timing is a perfect dead cat.

Do you think they've just come up with it in the last few days? Pulled it out of a hat to detract from, so far, pretty much a non event?

No. Months of planning.
Pulled out the hat today to divert. Clever

We won't be diverted though

'Well 8 days ago the Refugee minister knew absolutely nothing about it. He has an office on the same corridor as PP.'

What, so you think it's been organised in 8 days, or perhaps the minister questioned just wasn't involved in the planning?

To the pp who suggested my concern is false, it isn't. Economic migrants and asylum seekers should not be paying gangs a fortune for a perilous journey and we just cannot accommodate hundreds every day.

The Refugee Minister wasn’t involved in planning for……refugee issues.
How bizarre!

Provide safe routes and they do not need to pay gangs.

Anyway, back to Partygate.

Yep, agree Duncin the diversionary tactic worked even on here.
Back to it.

'Yep, agree Duncin the diversionary tactic worked even on here.Back to it.'

Tbf I think anti Johnson posters first brought it up. Not sure there were any diversionary tactics intended.

@JaniieJones

'Well 8 days ago the Refugee minister knew absolutely nothing about it. He has an office on the same corridor as PP.'

What, so you think it's been organised in 8 days, or perhaps the minister questioned just wasn't involved in the planning?

To the pp who suggested my concern is false, it isn't. Economic migrants and asylum seekers should not be paying gangs a fortune for a perilous journey and we just cannot accommodate hundreds every day.

According to him, if it was happening, he would have known about it. He also pointed out that they were having enough trouble getting Ukraine refugees here, there was literally no chance that they could organise sending people to Rwanda.

So it seems pretty obvious that actually it isn't going to happen and it really is that diversionary tactic.

Hello all! Thanks for the new thread. See that the usual suspects are still banging the support drum for Boris. Wonder how many threads it will take for the drumming to stop?

I hate ABBA but will be celebrating with their back catalogue if the ABBA party is the final nail....

🎶Waterloo🎶

I'm as worried as the above poster about what will happen next to distract from the fines. Although apparently Priti Patel has been in Rwanda for a while sealing this deal.

Probably checking that they aren't making the concentration camps too comfortable and that rations are at sub-minimal levels.

@NETSRIK

Hello all! Thanks for the new thread. See that the usual suspects are still banging the support drum for Boris. Wonder how many threads it will take for the drumming to stop?

Netrik, would you just like us all to agree? Think there's threads on the brexit board which may be more your cup of tea if so.

It's a chat forum, varied views are ok.

Also, I'm not 'banging any drums' however I can't get outraged about workplace 9 or 10 min birthday greetings and nor should you.

If they had a party in the flat with friends and family yes that'll be completely different.

'Probably checking that they aren't making the concentration camps too comfortable'

What an appalling comment. How on earth can you liken this to the holocaust. Jesus.

Met has concluded the birthday cake was at a party, Johnson has been fined for breaking the law.

Watch this JaniieJones See if it will change your mind

twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1514642081783947266

"It's inhumane, it's morally reprehensible, it's probably unlawful and it may well be unworkable."

Former Home Office Permanent Secretary Sir David Normington on the government's plan to send some asylum seekers to Rwanda

What makes you think I was talking about you? 😂

That reply was meant for the lady who doth protest too much.

And @Janiiejones 9 mins/5 mins, however many minutes makes no difference. You show me the time limit loophole that allowed things to happen in certain timescales which made it ok and not breaking the law and I may agree. You can't show me that though because the laws didn't have timescales attached to them did they?

however I can't get outraged about workplace 9 or 10 min birthday greetings and nor should you

Lordy me. You know there's more, just give up the 9 minutes nonsense

Also, I'm not 'banging any drums' however I can't get outraged about workplace 9 or 10 min birthday greetings and nor should you.

The Met have stated it was an hour long gathering not 9 or 10 minutes.

Also @janiiejones don't tell me what I should or should not get worked up about. Thanks.

30 people (including people who neither lived or worked there) in a room with birthday cake, singing, tins of beer and party food for an hour but apparently it wasn't a party.

Whether you call it a party, a gathering or something else, it was illegal hence the FPNs. Shall we just stick with illegal gathering?

"Also, I'm not 'banging any drums' however I can't get outraged about workplace 9 or 10 min birthday greetings and nor should you."

So you know better than the police and the most experienced lawyer in Government?

The supposed party of law and order undermining law and order.

I shouldn't be surprised - once upon a time they were also the party of business until Johnson told them what they could do with that. There is a bit of a theme.