Will Smith punches Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars.

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I think I speak for us all when I ask WTF just happened?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/27/will-smith-punch-chris-rock-wife-joke-gi-jane-video-oscars

@Eyedropeyeflop you say
violence can be a last resort

It was the geeky kid in my years last resort when he was fed up of being mercilessly bullied by the local chav, and you know what? It worked. He was never bullied again after giving him a slap

I see no parallel in what you say to the events at the Oscars.

In what way was this a "last resort" for Will Smith? He's a rich and powerful man who has any number of ways of addressing his issues with Chris Rock. He is nothing like your "geeky kid" who was mercilessly bullied.

Your argument in justifying Smith's action is pathetic.

And I say yet again, that I condemn what Chris Rock said.

He wasn’t my kid he was a kid in my year. I was just responding to the #violenceisneverrrrrrokay crew.

Going round in circles now but I do think CR met his match and i certainly won’t be losing any sleep over it.

I’ll save my empathy for victims who actually deserve it. Not nasty, women hating comedians like CR. He might think twice next time.

I didn't think the kid was your dc 🙄

@Newtonred

I know. Chris rock may have been out of line but you can’t just walk on stage and punch someone like that. Wonder what will happen after the ceremony. Will be interesting if Will Smith wins the Oscar now.

He won the Oscar directly afterwards. CR publicly mocked his wife's alopecia. I'm not saying it's right to hit people, but I understand.

@Newtonred

I wonder if he will mention it in his speech. I really hoped someone else would win it after that

There's countless articles that details he won then apologised to the Academy right after. Then he went clubbing and danced. I didn't even watch it or know the Oscars were still happening.

@Eyedropeyeflop

He wasn’t my kid he was a kid in my year. I was just responding to the #violenceisneverrrrrrokay crew.

Going round in circles now but I do think CR met his match and i certainly won’t be losing any sleep over it.

I’ll save my empathy for victims who actually deserve it. Not nasty, women hating comedians like CR. He might think twice next time.

Like the people who might now get a slap because Will Smith doing it was cool and the guy deserved it? ‘Chat shit, get banged’ but the definition of shit being with the person with their fists out?

@StrawberryPot

"^^ This. Totally. Though I wouldn't restrict it to black women. Constant bullying, belittling, snide remarks can cause far more damage than a slap."

Don't do that.

I’ll save my empathy for victims who actually deserve it. Not nasty, women hating comedians like CR. He might think twice next time

Thankfully most people don't want a society in which individuals meet out justice according to their personal measure of who deserves it.

It was the geeky kid in my years last resort when he was fed up of being mercilessly bullied by the local chav, and you know what? It worked. He was never bullied again after giving him a slap.

This bears no resemblance whatsoever to what happened here.

@Quirkyme - excuse me?

@VampireMoney

That is because it was not in direct correlation to the WS incident. It was just merely one example of how sometimes violence can actually be justifiable, and sometimes some people do actually deserve a slap. (like that school bully chav who relentlessly bullied the geeky kid) But you carry on distorting my words.

Your counter argument here is domestic violence, wrongly assuming anyone who sympathises with Will Smith sympathises with women beaters. It's an incredibly short sighted and rigid view.

Do you condemn Smith slapping Rock? @Eyedropeyeflop

It is a shocking incident. Neither man came off well. Let's see what the next few days brings.

If you could highlight the areas that physically harming another human being is acceptable, and where it is not acceptable please.

I see that making a joke at ones wife's expense is ok, so that is a starting point for you.

@fromdownwest you might like first to point to where I said it was OK for Will Smith to punch Chris Rock? I’ll save you the trouble of trawling through to look, I haven’t said that.

So, now we have established that, what level of financial security is where women should feel fine with being abused for entertainment in front of a global audience?

Your counter argument here is domestic violence, wrongly assuming anyone who sympathises with Will Smith sympathises with women beaters. It's an incredibly short sighted and rigid view.

No, my counter argument is that if people 'deserve' a slap sometimes like you seem to think, that's carte blanch for abusers to use the same logic. Oh she offended me so I slapped her. Oh I felt personally attacked so I slapped her. You can't argue with that because you've literally said be nice or you might end up getting a slap. Sometimes women aren't nice. They might say their partner is lazy or getting fat, they might make a snide joke about their mother in law. so if he feels personally attacked or feels his mum has been personally attacked - is he ok to give her a slap?

Or is it only men who are ok to be slapped when they offend someone?

I thought it was justified.

I think the perfect scenario was the one already mentioned (where he took the mic and told his wife she was beautiful and basically embarrassed CR with his words) he would have came out looking a lot better. Unfortunately he displayed an ugly somewhat human emotion which does raise its head from time to time. I haven’t judged him for that and I do think CR was asking for it.

Make of that what you will.

Openly berating a woman who suffers from alopecia infront of a worldwide audience. Not cool.

@awaynboilyurheid

Why didn’t Will Smith just go up grab the mike and say to Chris Rick it’s not ok to make jokes about woman’s appearance it’s 2022 fgs! He would have been applauded it for it and made Chris Rick look like an idiot. Instead he resorted to slapping which made him look like an idiot.

Totally agree, he lost the moral high ground by slapping him.

They are both as bad as each other.

@VampireMoney

Try all you like but a bloke giving another bloke a slap for disrespecting his wife so publically is really not the same as a bloke beating up his wife because she called him fat. There is a difference.

That’s my opinion, I’m not going to change it.

[quote Eyedropeyeflop]@VampireMoney

Try all you like but a bloke giving another bloke a slap for disrespecting his wife so publically is really not the same as a bloke beating up his wife because she called him fat. There is a difference.

That’s my opinion, I’m not going to change it.[/quote]
There’s no difference. The rationale in both cases is “They asked for it”.

I’m still really curious about the lack of intervention from security.

And now some sources are saying CR’s comment wasn’t pre-vetted.

So why did he choose to have a poke at Jada in that way?

I still think there is more to this.

I thought it was justified

Openly berating a woman who suffers from alopecia infront of a worldwide audience. Not cool
Make of that what you will

I hold by everything I said previously and remsin thankful that most people don't agree. Your approach to justice is self help. The trouble with that @Eyedropeyeflop is that each direct activists will be super heros to some people and a lynch mob to others.

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

I’m still really curious about the lack of intervention from security.

And now some sources are saying CR’s comment wasn’t pre-vetted.

So why did he choose to have a poke at Jada in that way?

I still think there is more to this.

I was thinking the same, Sheldon. They must have a lot of security? Someone could just walk up, assault the host, sit back down and the whole thing carry on? It's very strange.

I think that a lot of this thread and things I've seen in the media just highlights how we are now in a world where physical violence is seen as an acceptable response to offensive words

@okayigetit

I think that a lot of this thread and things I've seen in the media just highlights how we are now in a world where physical violence is seen as an acceptable response to offensive words

To be fair, that’s always been the case: the New Testament includes Christ telling people to ‘turn the other cheek’. The depressing thing is that so many people still think it’s reasonable. In this country we now find violence within the family legally and morally unacceptable but injuring someone we disagree with (however unreasonable we might find their views) is still fine by many it seems.

[quote Eyedropeyeflop]@VampireMoney

Try all you like but a bloke giving another bloke a slap for disrespecting his wife so publically is really not the same as a bloke beating up his wife because she called him fat. There is a difference.

That’s my opinion, I’m not going to change it.[/quote]
There is no difference. You say some people deserve a slap, 'just be nice or you might get a slap' and that's exactly what my first boyfriend said to me right before he gave me a slap.