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Oh, Nazanin. How dignified you are.

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AnyFucker · 21/03/2022 13:12

Just seen a clip of the press conference she gave. How generous of her to share it with the daughter of a man still trapped in Iran.

How composed and articulate she is. Honestly, with so many fucking idiots in power, how do we keep the faith in the face of what happened to Nazanin.

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RashofBees · 21/03/2022 18:00

Fantastic comments from Janiie here. Is this the same poster who started a thread about how pushy Volodymyr Zelenskiy is being?

Nobody gets to tell someone who has spent six years in a living nightmare like Nazanin has endured how they ought to feel about it and what level of gratitude is due.

Lovegodess · 21/03/2022 18:02

And the government that imprisoned her?

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 21/03/2022 18:03

Not sure the Foreign Secretary defenders have fully thought their “she should have known better than to go to Iran” arguments through.

If travel to Iran is so dangerous as to guarantee six years in Evin prison, surely the 5 FSes should have banned travel there?

But that would mean a Tory FS screwed up, that can’t be right Hmm

Perhaps a few of those 5 FS were secret Labour sympathisers.

unim · 21/03/2022 18:06

@JaniieJones

'perhaps just be thankful that you weren't the one taken hostage. You get to tell someone what they should do, if you have stood in their shoes.'

If I had I would say (in my hypothetical press conference) that I was relieved to be home and understood it wasn't the number of foreign secretaries that was the problem, rather the regime they were negotiating with.

I think she was saying that the number of foreign secretaries WAS part of the problem. And I am sure she is right - total lack of continuity.
mumwon · 21/03/2022 18:07

I cannot believe how truly nasty some people are (& that my dear mn is an understatement of what I would like to say to each & ever one of the negative comments on here & on other media)
She had to be very careful about what she said because of - other people who are hoping to be released, because of her family & her students over there (who have also been imprisoned for various periods)
why would she assume when she went over to visit her mum & dad with her little baby that the government of the country would blame her & use her as a weapon against UK to blackmail them into getting money they owed the Iran from the previous regime? & by the way the UK is not the only country to repay money owed to Iran to get (unjustly) imprisoned people out (I think there was an American too)
she looks very tired even through the makeup- she knew her husband was fighting for her & that he had managed to get her daughter out that must have helped her psychology
if it wasn't for the bloody oil issue with Russia she would have still been there
"I am leaving that black hole in the plane - I am not going to live with a grudge..."
That is a heroine & if anybody didn't notice her voice did shake a bit but she controlled it

LizDoingTheCanCan · 21/03/2022 18:09

@Lovegodess

And the government that imprisoned her?
You signed up/ changed your name just to post that?

You sound nice.

LampLighter414 · 21/03/2022 18:11

And our world leading Prime Minister made it worse for her. Boris is a complete twat

AnneKisee · 21/03/2022 18:13

She went through a really horrible time, all sympathies blah2, gov cocked up.
However in terms of citizenship, she's both Iranian and British.
Iran was detaining one of its own citizens as much as Britain demanded the return of theirs.

If I were her I wouldn't be bothered btw. I don't see why she needs to use her 'platform'. Let the poor woman live her life in peace.

ScribblingPixie · 21/03/2022 18:13

If travel to Iran is so dangerous as to guarantee six years in Evin prison, surely the 5 FSes should have banned travel there?

The government has advised all dual nationals against travel to Iran since 2018 so the danger of being seized and used politically must be huge. Awful for people separated from family.

derxa · 21/03/2022 18:14

@ScribblingPixie

I do think Liz Truss deserves credit - reading the analysis of how she changed the negotiations it seems she did a good job. Tulip Siddiq acknowledged that she'd focused on the situation and made it happen - in contrast to the previous foreign secretaries.
I agree
skodadoda · 21/03/2022 18:14

@BlingLoving

Dh watched the whole thing - I've only seem some clips. He said she was incredible but he was a bit annoyed by how much of the focus was on her husband and what he has been doing. He felt he wanted to hear from her about her!
It was made clear at the start that she was not going to be exposed to too much questioning.
mumwon · 21/03/2022 18:16

@LampLighter414 one of many ignorant? stupid? tactless? brain dead? comments along with comparing brexit with Ukraine (Jesus wept!) which of course he didn't mean & numerous other comments during covid...
He makes me sick & is an embarrassment to our nation - let alone to his party

skodadoda · 21/03/2022 18:17

@LizDoingTheCanCan

The government do not deserve her gratitude.

You can always send Truss a card Janiie, should you feel so strongly about it. Maybe some cheese and wine?

🤣🤣🤣🤣
MassDebate · 21/03/2022 18:17

Her dignity and poise are incredible; what a woman. Shame the same can’t be said for many of those commenting on this thread.

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 18:19

more gratitude...some gratitude...not enough gratitude...say thank you...some recognition...blah, blah, blah
It is her very freedom we are talking about. She should not have had her freedom taken away, nor kept away for 6 years, in the first place. Why should she express gratitude for getting back something that was rightfully hers all along to one of the parties involved in the inhumane and years-long denial of her human rights? It's like saying you should thank a thief who also caused you and your family great harm.

She went to see her parents. She took her baby to see her grandparents. I would probably have done the same. She should have been safe. A mother travelling with her baby should have been safe from being treated like a political pawn by both sides.

skodadoda · 21/03/2022 18:22

@JaniieJones

A bit of gratitude for the foreign secretaries who worked tirelessly to secure her freedom and some condemnation of the Iranian govt who were actually responsible would have been nice.
When you have been unfairly imprisoned for 6 years, partly as a result of stupid comments made by an incompetent, bumbling foreign secretary, then you can speak of gratitude. Is your real name Nadine?
SueSaid · 21/03/2022 18:24

'She should not have had her freedom taken away, nor kept away for 6 years, in the first place. Why should she express gratitude for getting back something that was rightfully hers all along'

Well I'm not suggesting she thank the Iranian regime for releasing her but criticising the amount of UK foreign secretaries she dealt with rather than acknowledging them and recognising what they did to help secure her release would seem odd.

You're right she should've been able to take her baby to see her parents Iran. Perhaps tell the Iranian government that.

Thoosa · 21/03/2022 18:26

@JaniieJones
You're being very very silly. Shoosh now and let the adults talk & celebrate the wonderful Nazanin.

Now you sound just as childish as she does,

Is it not possible to keep the thread on the subject of how impressive and strong NZR was at the press conference?

eldora · 21/03/2022 18:28

@JaniieJones and again, no condemnation from you for the British government for not paying the £400m debt that would have led to Nazanin's release. The UK govt knew 6 years ago that the debt was the issue.

LizDoingTheCanCan · 21/03/2022 18:28

recognising what they did to help secure her release

You should be on the stage with your talent for comedy!

TheOnlyMrsMac · 21/03/2022 18:31

would seem odd.
In your world, yes, it must. Not to me. Not to her, which is the most important thing.

SueSaid · 21/03/2022 18:31

'and again, no condemnation from you for the British government for not paying the £400m debt that would have led to Nazanin's release. The UK govt knew 6 years ago that the debt was the issue.'

Nope my condemnation rests solely with the Iranian regime. You don't take hostages and demand debts be repaid like this.

eldora · 21/03/2022 18:35

@JaniieJones Nope, you don't keep £400m of another country's money when it's endangering the lives of your citizens.

Even the Tories are asking for an enquiry into why the debt wasn't paid much sooner.

TypicaIMe · 21/03/2022 18:37

@JaniieJones is there anything Boris Johnson & co could do that would result in condemnation from you?

EthelTheAardvark · 21/03/2022 18:38

@JaniieJones

A bit of gratitude for the foreign secretaries who worked tirelessly to secure her freedom and some condemnation of the Iranian govt who were actually responsible would have been nice.
How about the former foreign secretary whose utter stupidity almost certainly lengthened her captivity expressing some regret?
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