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Why won’t my kids just do as they’re fucking told?!

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ColourfulOnesie · 12/03/2022 18:39

I know you’ll all say about them being their own people not robots yadayada
But I’m not barking orders like an army general over here

I’m talking things like - ‘I’m washing uniforms tonight go and bring me any other dirty things and your pe kits’ they go upstairs, come down say there’s nothing so I wash what I have, then two days later they have no clean uniform because it’s all screwed up on their bedroom floor
‘Go get dressed so we can go out’ they go upstairs, I wait, and wait, half an hour later I go up to see what’s taking so long - they’re still sat there in pjs making no effort to move
‘Can you set the table, dinners nearly ready’ - no movement
‘Are there any dishes in your room?’ No … there’s hundreds!!
‘Shower time’ … hours pass, ‘go and get in the shower’ … half an hour still no shower!

Why?! Why do they make life so difficult!?!

Does anyone have kids who just do as they’re told?! How did you do that???

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goingback · 12/03/2022 21:04

DD12 said yesterday going out with friends today, asked her if needing anything washed- no answer. today she was still in pyjamas at 11.30 , meeting friend at mall at 1pm. Asked what time her bus is , when you getting ready , etc- replied "in a minute". 12.15 goes for a shower, 15 minutes later get shouted at for not washing her clothes, another 15 minutes get asked for a lift as she is going to be late(because i didn't wash clothes apparently). Waited 10 minutes until she realised something was up and she apologised - we were only 30 minutes late. Hopefully that was a valuable lesson for her

pigcon1 · 12/03/2022 21:06

Turn off the WiFi (if screens seem to be distracting)?

Squiff70 · 12/03/2022 21:10

Not once in your OP did you mention using the word "please" when asking your children to do something. IMO this says more about you than it does about them.

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MakkaPakkas · 12/03/2022 21:11

No advice, bit solidarity. Mine are similar ages and the nagging required to get them to do the most basic things wears me down

tkwal · 12/03/2022 21:15

They are pushing boundaries. This is not the time to try to be their "mate" You have to go through all the time limits, number of times they will be asked and imposing consequences routine. It does feel like a power struggle and at time you will think it would be simpler just to do it yourself. The important thing to remember is that you're not doing it for your benefit (although, yes a bit of help would be nice) but for theirs so that when they are older they won't end up existing in squallor

SmellyOldOwls · 12/03/2022 21:17

@Summerfun54321

It’s just parenting isn’t it? Doing loads of thankless jobs that they don’t help with? By 14 I was doing all my own laundry and regular chores. They aren’t that far off being trained up to look after themselves, but you’re a couple of years off. You could try rules to just make your life easier, like no eating in the bedroom and one single family laundry bin?
Yeah. It's all part of family life. Children are v unreasonable.
sweetbellyhigh · 12/03/2022 21:18

@Squiff70

Not once in your OP did you mention using the word "please" when asking your children to do something. IMO this says more about you than it does about them.
and your post says a lot about you, not nice
allthegoodusernameshavegone · 12/03/2022 21:19

10 & 12 can do their own washing it really is not a hardship for them.

jlgsy94 · 12/03/2022 21:21

I have 4 kids aged 10, 9 (who has Autism), 6 and 2 year old. Now obviously I don't expect my 2 year old to contribute to any household chores Grin

However I do expect the older 3 to help out. I'll ask nicely at first, then a bit firmer, then firmer and sharper, before I lift the lid on my inner banshee. Once I've gotten to the banshee stage I'll be muttering several fugly words under my breath, probably enough to open up hell and summon a few demons Grin Consequences for doing as told is no devices, but they quite literally don't give a s**t most of the time Hmm

BertieBotts · 12/03/2022 21:28

Don't know if you're actually asking why this happens, but it's because their executive functioning skills are immature. It's an annoying overlap because when they're younger you expect to need to cajole them a bit more and you're hoping they will be a bit more mature and self-starting but they won't catch up here probably until they are adults. Part of that is developmental and part of it is just the lack of perspective that these things don't just magically get done for them but are the result of a real person's labour.

I would probably start moving away from consequences like lost screen time, as they're less useful once you're moving into teenhood anyway. Unless it's stuff like "wifi gets unlocked once you've done X, Y, Z task." as that kind of thing tends to work better - this privilege is conditional on that responsibility.

The approach in the book Raising Human Beings by Ross Greene is also great for preteens IME.

For washing - 12yo could probably do their own especially if you have a tumble dryer, in which case leave them to it. Otherwise, or if you are using the washing machine too much yourself to allow for an open schedule, I'd probably try tacking on a reminder "Don't forget to check the floor". If they need uniform midweek could they stick a wash on themselves - if they do have to hang it up then that's annoying for them, which is likely to magically help them remember when you offer to do it for them Wink (This is basically my rule for my 13yo - I do his washing as and when, as long as it's in the laundry bin. If he wants more washing done at another time then he can do it himself.)

If you want to go out would it help to have a general rule that everyone needs to be dressed by X time at weekends, so that you're never waiting around for people to get dressed at the last minute. It probably means more huffing at children to get dressed, but at least it wouldn't be holding anything up.

Shower by X time otherwise earlier to bed the next night as they "clearly need more time to get ready".

Set table - sorry don't know on this one. We are awful and all eat in separate rooms in front of screens 🙈

Dishes - DH docks screen time for this, a set time of day where all dishes are collected for dishwasher works well. If you check later and find more, perhaps the dish-hoarding child could wash those dishes by hand? Like the laundry one, this builds appreciation for the fact that having to bring dishes to the magical washing up machine is really no big hardship at all.

Fernandina · 12/03/2022 21:32

One of the consequences should be: no clean school uniform or PE kit? Tough, they will have to go to school in dirty crumpled clothes then.

BertieBotts · 12/03/2022 21:34

That doesn't necessarily help if they don't care about that. But I think it's fine to have a boundary around what labour you're willing to do and then say look; you can't go to school like that - you're going to need to wash that PE kit but I'm afraid you've missed your chance for me to do it. Here is the washing machine, use this setting, there is the airer.

Outhouse71421 · 12/03/2022 21:45

Just make it inconvenient for them to evade requests, and as far as is possible allow natural consequences to arise. If they don't care, one step more ..

WLAH · 12/03/2022 22:06

@Peanutbuttercupisyum

Mine are the same No suggestions only massive sympathy
Mine same age and sympathy too.
DotBall · 12/03/2022 22:07

Mine was the same at that age and later. Now 25, his room isn’t tidy and occasionally he needs nagging to blitz it but that’s his problem.

However, he can self-manage absolutely everything else from his job to his pension to his car, and that was the result of a variety of strategies ranging from “tell them thank you in expectation of the request being done, not please” to going spare at times. You’ll get there 😁

ListeningButNotHearing · 12/03/2022 22:08

@ColourfulOnesie - I really sympathize.

It's just not a priority at all for my DS and never has been.

My tactic is to turn off the wifi until it's done, otherwise I would literally be waiting forever.

As an excuse he often says: 'mum you want to see how disgusting my friends' bedrooms are.'

But I can't live with chaos and squalor and I don't want him to think it's normal either.

Plinkplonk1234 · 12/03/2022 22:25

Ask once and if they don't move ask them to repeat back what you just said. Weirdly repeating the request themselves seems to make them move in our house.

isthatanotherbastardgrey · 12/03/2022 22:49

We have a rule that all washing has to be in the basket on Friday night for me to wash it on Saturday. Friday at bedtime it was suspiciously empty of both DSD16 and DSD10's clothes.

Come Saturday, I didn't bother washing or chasing anything. Had a lovely day! Saturday night DSD10 pipes up 'oh, you'll have lots of washing to do tomorrow, all my uniform is in the basket!' I told her that I wouldn't... she knew the rules and had missed the boat (she has spare uniform, I'm not a total monster).

Sunday morning, she was up early, doing the washing! I felt like I'd won the sodding lottery when I came downstairs!

Still can't quite believe it happened to be honest.

Thatsplentyjack · 12/03/2022 22:52

@blockbustervideo

I've heard no "please" or "thank you" when you ask your kids for help. Maybe start there.

HTH.

I say please and thank you to mine all the time. Still doesn't work. Any more patronising shite "advice" genius?
BertieBotts · 12/03/2022 23:06

As an excuse he often says: 'mum you want to see how disgusting my friends' bedrooms are.'

Hahaha, well at least you know his isn't the worst Grin

thaegumathteth · 13/03/2022 02:34

Yes OP - it's so exhausting because you never get to hand over a task, you have to always keep that 'tab' open,

Dd has quite severe DCD (used to be called dyspraxia) and it's the most frustrating thing ever. I know it must be difficult for him too but honestly that plus being a dickhead teenager just pushes every single one of my buttons.

Dd isn't quite so bad but she's only11. She's in general more capable and considering though eg she'll think what she needs for school whereas it just doesn't occur to ds.

We do use natural consequences but sometimes they're no use. Eg 'ds doesn't get ready to go out so he doesn't come. Well great cos he didn't want to anyways!

thaegumathteth · 13/03/2022 02:34

*DS has DCD

LadyPropane · 13/03/2022 02:45

I think they're at that age where natural consequences can start to work quite well.

No clean uniform? Oh dear. You'll have to wear a dirty one. Maybe next time you'll actually listen when mum asks you to bring down your washing so that she can wash all of your clothes for you.

Not showered? Oh dear. I suppose you will stink at school tomorrow. Oh well.

TheRealBoswell · 13/03/2022 02:55

@Rebelmcstreettuff Your DS2 is 14 years old. I hope he was heavily involved in the cleaning up process. Do not let him take any food to his room again. Any food should be eaten in the kitchen until he learns not to do it again. I’d also want to find out how he managed to create such a mess so that he can understand where he actually went wrong. Also, if he’s very clumsy, I’d want to look into ensuring there is nothing wrong with his motor skills.

@ColourfulOnesie, Op, I know it’s difficult, but hang in there. Your children are old enough to do some chores so draw up a chore chart and make sure they’re involved in coming up with the consequences. For example, if you don’t do your laundry every Friday, what should happen? So they themselves are thinking of the consequences of their actions and you can write them down in the chart. Also work together to think of small rewards once they complete their chores for the week etc. They need to take more ownership of their actions so that leaves you with more energy for the big picture decisions. Also, they’re old enough to understand that everyone needs to do their part in the house and it’s not just Mummy who does everything. The chores do not have to be so overwhelming. It doesn’t have to be so overwhelming. Laundry once a week, setting the table, clearing out the fridge, organising their wardrobe etc. so they have something to wear throughout the week. Small things can make a big difference.

tolerable · 13/03/2022 03:02

change wifi password.trip elec switch.
praise the (tiny)improvemnts.. dont put quetion marks..if need to-set timer for..tasks completed.