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Govt gives up on covid catch-up for kids and hopes you don't notice

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noblegiraffe · 12/03/2022 12:35

After the guy they specifically hired to come up with a covid catch-up plan for children resigned when the government said they weren't willing to spend the amount of money needed (£15 billion) and instead only about £3 billion, they said that the focus of the catch-up would be tutoring.

They then gave the tutoring contract to a Dutch HR firm because they bid the lowest (much better bids from experienced companies were rejected). This has turned into a slow-motion car crash where schools couldn't access tutors, websites didn't work, tutors couldn't be found.

The govt have now abandoned that and said that the tutoring money (£65 million, not billions) will be given directly to schools to source and fund their own tutors instead.

However, at the same time, targets have been dropped or watered down:

Tutors used to have to be graduates or qualified teachers. Now they merely need A-levels.

Group sizes were max 3, this is now max 6 pupils.

A requirement that 65% of targeted pupils were disadvantaged pupils has been ditched.

A thread on MN about whether children were recovering education-wise discussed how academically children seem to be ok, but socially and emotionally are still affected. (As this is MN, children of MNettters are more likely to be advantaged where the data shows that it's disadvantaged children most hit educationally, so they may have a false impression of the widespread educational impact.) However, as the sole govt focus was on educational catch-up (which has now basically fizzled out), there is no extra support for helping children emotionally or socially beyond that which schools can cobble together themselves with their limited resources. That's why the advisor resigned - he wanted a full package of support for children, physically, socially and educationally, and the lack of that is now becoming obvious.

In addition, CAMHS has basically collapsed, so there is very little professional mental health support available for children, and long, long waiting lists for those who meet the incredibly high threshold for referral.

Schools have just gone through an extremely difficult term, covid-wise. There has been massive staff and pupil absence. Far from being places of covid catch-up, many schools have struggled to staff the basic timetable, and pupils have had lack of consistency with supply staff. Exam classes have been left without specialist teaching. Despite schools now being provided with funding for tutoring, the idea that in maths we could actually find any tutors is challenging. We did have some timetabled intervention, but those teachers had to be redeployed to actual teaching because of staff absence.

Why aren't the government worried that they'll get found out?

Who is measuring the social and emotional well-being of children in a way that will actually have an impact on government policy? Parents seem remarkably reluctant to hold the government to account for their failings here.

What about exam results? Well, exam grades are decided in advance by the government. We know for a fact that pupils sitting GCSEs and A-levels this summer will come out with good results overall, because this has already been decided, regardless of their actual performance in the exams. So the public will see the exam results and figure that everything must be ok in schools because the kids are doing well in their exams. It's not ok, and don't be fooled.

This government still don't give a shit about your kids, or their education.

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EthelTheAardvark · 13/03/2022 12:50

This government still don't give a shit about your kids, or their education

This. Witness the dreadful provision for children with SEN which means that in effect the law is a dead duck in many local authorities who blatantly break it day after day because there is no accountability built in. Although a SEND review is apparently imminent, no-one is too optimistic and would be very pleasantly surprised if doesn't involve a further weakening of the rights of children with SEND.

Parents of children with SEN were particularly sceptical of the tuition offer, because of the massive problems there have always been in getting home tuition for children who can't be in school due to disability, especially MH difficulties. So there will be little surprise that the whole stupid thing is collapsing.

toomuchlaundry · 13/03/2022 12:51

People complaining about teachers during lockdown, did you ever complain about funding before? Education was in crisis well before COVID, the pandemic has just accelerated everything. And it isn’t the teachers’ fault.

But how were schools meant to stay open in the height of the pandemic? The local schools have been on their knees in the last year since schools have been fully open, surely we would be in an even worst state now. Teacher retention is awful. We can’t even recruit admin staff at the moment and school hours jobs used to be so heavily fought over, now nobody wants to know

EthelTheAardvark · 13/03/2022 12:53

@GiveMeNovocain

Children should have lived as normally as possible and then harms would be minimised to them. You got what you wanted, now live with it
How was that going to happen if covid had been raging through schools and thei families of children and staff, with constant staff absences?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

EthelTheAardvark · 13/03/2022 12:59

@jytdtysrht

Of course the old Etonian cares about state education. I didn’t vote for Boris but I dislike the way he is put down because of the school (that he got a big scholarship to) that he went to.
The fact that he's an old Etonian is possibly the most minor aspect of the things people criticise Johnson for. Though you do have to wonder how someone went through education there and came out as a compulsive liar.

What evidence have you seen that makes you think he cares about state education? Leaving that utter idiot Williamson in charge all through the pandemic and the exams fiasco is hardly evidence that he cares at all.

EthelTheAardvark · 13/03/2022 13:02

@jytdtysrht

There are free videos on YouTube for every age group. 0–18 including GCSEs and A Levels. The govt has not got the time, money or resources to wave a magic wand to sort this out so you should sort it out yourself for your child. There are so many unsolvable problems these days - all worthy. It isn’t a great situation but you just need to do the best you can for your child. Eduction was fucked long before covid, so was Health. Most things are fucked. It’s up to the individual.
And yet they had the resources to pour £4 billion straight down the drain in terms of handing out money to fraudsters from whom they aren't even trying to recover anything?
jytdtysrht · 13/03/2022 13:03

I think he might be a compulsive liar because of his difficult early years. His mum was very ill mentally (in an institution), his dad was working all over Europe so he went to boarding schools and people were really cruel to him. Like I said, I didn't vote for him and I am no fan of his, but it is not as simple as "born with a silver spoon in his mouth and lived luxurious privileged life."

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 13:04

Yes some were on the attack to silence, some worse (I recall one hounding for months with personal attacks)

Indeed, people did try to silence me with pretty horrendous personal abuse and there was a campaign to try to get me banned from MN. Some of the lies that were spread about me have continued on this thread.

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EthelTheAardvark · 13/03/2022 13:08

@jytdtysrht

I think he might be a compulsive liar because of his difficult early years. His mum was very ill mentally (in an institution), his dad was working all over Europe so he went to boarding schools and people were really cruel to him. Like I said, I didn't vote for him and I am no fan of his, but it is not as simple as "born with a silver spoon in his mouth and lived luxurious privileged life."
Were they cruel to him? From what I've heard and read, he was a pretty unpleasant bully when at Eton and also at Oxford, and nothing much has changed. That doesn't account for his racism and bigotry, either.
noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 13:09

Although a SEND review is apparently imminent, no-one is too optimistic and would be very pleasantly surprised if doesn't involve a further weakening of the rights of children with SEND.

There are so many obstacles in the path of parents trying to get support for their child with SEND, not least the ridiculous waiting lists for diagnoses. That once the paperwork is complete, the appeal won, the EHCP granted, schools don't have the resources to implement the required provision should be a source of shame.

The lack of specialist provision is also shocking. I know of children who have been assessed as needing a place at a special school only to be told there isn't a place for them.

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noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 13:17

but what did you do to campaign for these things? Except post on here?

I don't have the skill set for public campaigning, so I wouldn't say I fought for mitigations in schools. I post a lot about various education failings because parents don't often hear about these things. Schools generally try to put on a very positive front to parents and cover up stuff like the impact of staff shortages.

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CallmeHendricks · 13/03/2022 13:20

And the horror expressed on here during lockdown home learning actually shows how little parents were aware of the dire state of things in many schools. Perhaps too good a job was made of covering things up and making the best of things.
Now people are more aware, but this is not just a Covid thing. The damage began many years before that.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 13:26

That reminds me of a thread I started June 2020, CallMe

That thread got 54 posts, mostly from teachers. Posters who were all over threads complaining about lockdown provision and blaming individual feckless teachers don't want to hear that the problems run much deeper.

"Some kids are having zoom lessons (parking to one side whether this is the gold standard) and they have the tech to access this

Some kids are having weekly phone contact

Some kids are having differentiated work set remotely

Some kids are having paper work packs hand delivered

Some kids are having a few links sent out at the start of the week

Some kids are getting feedback

Some kids are getting no feedback

Some kids are back in school

Some kids aren’t back in school

Some kids aren’t allowed back in school even though they are in a year group that should be back in school

Some year groups are prioritised

Some year groups have been effectively abandoned

Some kids are vulnerable and not getting the support they need

Some kids have SEN and are not getting the support they need.

It’s terrible that education provision is so patchy. That some pupils are getting far more input and support than others. Parents are right to be furious if theirs is one of the have-nots. They have the right to look at what other kids are getting and be worried that their kid is missing out.

But

This is not unique to lockdown. Do not think, for one second, that things will be fair when kids return to school. Do not think, for one second, that things were fair before lockdown. Underfunding, lack of resources, lack of qualified staff affecting quality of education (despite schools’ and teachers’ best efforts) have been an issue for years.

Some kids had qualified teachers. Some kids had a string of unqualified supply teachers. Some kids were in well-resourced brand new school buildings. Some were in dilapidated pre-fab huts. Some had excellent pastoral support. Some had none. Some had access to opportunities. Some had very little in the way of extras.

And on top of it all, the DfE are a useless bunch who have lied that everything is fine while the system slowly crashes to the ground, desperately propped up by the hard work of the increasingly fewer numbers of dedicated staff who haven’t yet burned out.

This inequality is clearly unacceptable, however it may not have been clear to parents up till now just how bad things are. They may have laboured under the illusion that their children were not affected.

How has it come to this? Gove’s academisation program, making schools into independent private concerns, pitting them against each other instead of encouraging collaboration. League tables. Ofsted ratings. The illusion of parental choice. The mass exodus of teaching staff. Every school has been expected to do its own thing, and now they are doing their own thing, we cannot do what other countries have done and centralise education efforts. Because of lack of funding and central control, the government cannot mandate that schools do anything in a uniform fashion. How can they say children should have video lessons when the tech isn’t there? How can they say that children should make use of centralised lessons from Oak Academy when every school is following their own curriculum?

If you are frustrated regarding the DfE’s announcements of primary kids going back, not going back, Y10 and 12 going back but actually not going back to lessons although some are - they are ALWAYS this incompetent. You’re only now seeing it, but apply that to the last ten years and you might get some idea of the scale of frustration of people who work in education.

If you are pissed off now, you should be. Maintain that anger when schools are back. They need your support because they are struggling in a broken system. Direct it to the right place."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3941702-Annoyed-your-kid-isn-t-having-zoom-lessons-or-school-contact-or-not-going-back-to-school-yet

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noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 14:28

We can’t even recruit admin staff at the moment and school hours jobs used to be so heavily fought over, now nobody wants to know

toomuchlaundry I was just reading a twitter thread about this. The move to working from home and flexibility around hours (recall the thread about how unreasonable it was to schedule a zoom meeting at 9am as it interfered with school drop-off?) means that the pool of people who would previously wanted jobs in schools for the working hours is much reduced.

TAs and support staff historically put up with the outrageously low pay for the convenience of term-time working. Now they may have other options.

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borntobequiet · 13/03/2022 15:28

So many close the schools threads on here. Depressing. But this is the outcome

They were actually threads about how to keep schools open relatively safely and thereby minimise disruption, but people kept claiming that they were about closing them. Even those threads that explicitly said in their title they were about keeping schools open, with practical suggestions as to how to do so.
Truly, the capacity for cognitive dissonance is strong among some people on here.

ReadyToMoveIt · 13/03/2022 15:37

TAs and support staff historically put up with the outrageously low pay for the convenience of term-time working. Now they may have other options

I think you’re over estimating the other options. I have to work from home (my office hasn’t reopened) but i still have to pay for after school childcare and holiday childcare for 3 kids… as I’m working. Not many employers are happy for you to have children at home with you when you’re trying to work.

MarshaBradyo · 13/03/2022 15:47

@borntobequiet

So many close the schools threads on here. Depressing. But this is the outcome

They were actually threads about how to keep schools open relatively safely and thereby minimise disruption, but people kept claiming that they were about closing them. Even those threads that explicitly said in their title they were about keeping schools open, with practical suggestions as to how to do so.
Truly, the capacity for cognitive dissonance is strong among some people on here.

If you search ‘close the schools’ I’m sure you’ll get enough hits to satisfy it being a strong theme.

Of course there were many but it’s odd people say not.

‘Safely’ was an another suggestion but often involved social distancing which kept many dc out of school.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 16:04

I think you’re over estimating the other options.

Just saying what I've seen on twitter. The observation upthread that a school is struggling to hire admin staff in a role that would have previously been hotly fought over fits this.

Govt gives up on covid catch-up for kids and hopes you don't notice
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ReadyToMoveIt · 13/03/2022 16:08

I find that odd. I don’t know anyone in a professional, private sector career who is permitted under their contract to look after their children in working hours. I wonder if their employers are actually aware of it.

Cherrycrush · 13/03/2022 16:12

@Coffeewithcheese, @lljkk and @MarshaBradyo are correct, sadly.

I got abuse for going on maternity leave. Apparently I was leaving teachers in the lurch and I had no sympathy with what they were going through Confused

And I do think the bubbles were insanity at best. Two fucking years!

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 16:38

@ReadyToMoveIt

I find that odd. I don’t know anyone in a professional, private sector career who is permitted under their contract to look after their children in working hours. I wonder if their employers are actually aware of it.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/carers/4503437-become-a-teaching-assistant-for-better-work-life-balance

Thread here where someone is being told that becoming a TA isn't worth the low pay for having the holidays, for example. She explains that working from home means she doesn't need childcare in term time, just the holidays, so clearly some employers aren't fussed about homeworkers doing the school run and avoiding wrap-around care.

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ReadyToMoveIt · 13/03/2022 16:41

That actually blows my mind. They can’t possibly be working effectively. I wouldn’t tolerate any of my team doing childcare in their working hours.

ReadyToMoveIt · 13/03/2022 16:42

But holiday childcare on its own is still financially extremely onerous anyway.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2022 16:43

Yes, but the drop in wages for a TA/school admin job may be worse.

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borntobequiet · 13/03/2022 16:47

If you search ‘close the schools’ I’m sure you’ll get enough hits to satisfy it being a strong theme

If you search almost any relevant combination of words you’ll get loads of hits. In this case it would probably bring up loads of false accusations, which was indeed a strong theme. What a pointless comment.

MarshaBradyo · 13/03/2022 16:50

@borntobequiet

If you search ‘close the schools’ I’m sure you’ll get enough hits to satisfy it being a strong theme

If you search almost any relevant combination of words you’ll get loads of hits. In this case it would probably bring up loads of false accusations, which was indeed a strong theme. What a pointless comment.

Are you really saying close the schools threads didn’t happen often?

How bizarre.

Is it just because you want to ignore it now? So weird.

At the end of 2020 the board was rife with it. Maybe those who agreed with it didn’t notice as much,