Ukraine - Prepping

[nanabow]

Reading the AIBU for being worried about Russia retaliating thread got me thinking.

Is anyone doing anything to prep for potential retaliation from Russia?

I'm thinking more along the lines things that'll help get you through a cyber attack that brings down banking, electricity, NHS, etc. Rather than nuclear warfare.

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Do you really want to survive a nuclear attack though?

No, but we don't live in a direct target area so I'm assuming we'll have fallout to deal with. You get a choice as to whether you live or die. I also have to look after ds2.

Do you have visibility over the direct target areas and the extent of the damage the Russian and then US, UK, French and Chinese missiles will cause?

If there’s nuclear war that’s it. It’s over

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

We're preparing for a nuclear attack.

How? Are you bulk buying Boots Soltan Factor 1,000,000?

😆

@cheddez

I'm just going to go with looting if needed!

me too @cheddez

op. Do not worry about what others think of prepping. You do what you think is wise for yourself and your family.

Also, dont forget in life, that what some people say, and what they actually do, can be two completely different things.

If the electricity goes off and I need to look after baby, including pumped milk that needs to be kept cold and bottles that need to be sterilised.

Or worst case if they manage to bring the NHS systems down and my older daughter needs care. Which unfortunately isn't 100% straight forward with her history.

@nanabow so yes my question was how are you preparing for the above? These things don't happen in a vacuum in a war situation.

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Do you really want to survive a nuclear attack though?

No, but we don't live in a direct target area so I'm assuming we'll have fallout to deal with. You get a choice as to whether you live or die. I also have to look after ds2.

Would you want to live through that also? I don't think any amount of iodine would help in the long run.

If there's a nuclear war then it's over. But it won't come to that anyroad.

You also have to make sure you're not in the blast radius of a nuclear power plant also. You'll only have like 48 hours to get away far enough.

@lightand

Thank you ❤️

I think you are overestimating Russian hackers...

Anonymous just crashed a bunch of Russian government sites and a Russian propaganda tv channel.

Russia now is now the main target of hackers from all over the world.

Would you want to live through that also? I don't think any amount of iodine would help in the long run.

I wouldn't

Your people are here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/preppers

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

We're preparing for a nuclear attack.

Don't bother.

We'll all be toast.

For goodness sake - get a grip!!!!!!!!

What I am doing is offering to take in Ukrainian family. Ukrainians just sending out kids. Everyone else staying to fight. Puts us all inc Boris to shame

My fil was a nuclear physicist and was a member of the civil defence scientific advisory groups who advised the government on what to do in the event of a nuclear attack on this country. Dh was also involved. Medium and long term survival following a nuclear attack is neither desirable nor probable, but if you survive the initial blast and two week fallout period then you have to work out what to do following that. Not everyone will be killed in the initial blasts.

I don't know why people think it's funny. I lived during the Cold War and we received instructions on what to do in the event of an attack.

I seem to recall we should take a door off it’s hinges and lean it against a wall, taking shelter beneath. So a screwdriver?

@cheddez

Would you want to live through that also? I don't think any amount of iodine would help in the long run.

I wouldn't

Definitely not.

But there's no point in freaking out, it won't happen. Switch off the news those who are and go do something that makes you feel happy. It's been a weird couple of years, time to decompress a bit.

Am prepping a mutually assured destruction response to the Russian Federation armed forces in case they invade MN. Don't tell the Russians but war gaming suggests a successful strategy might start with a pincer movement of 'It's an invite, not a summons' together with a CF wedding poem soliciting cash donations for a honeymoon. If the Russian Federation armed forces don't withdraw, the issue of asking visitors and invading soldiers to take off their shoes and boots before entering the country will be raised. If they don't surrender, the question of how many loads of washing a week the average Spetznatz platoon should have will be dropped from a flying bomber that will fly off at a tangent quickly before it detonates. Finally they'll be asked 'if they meant to be so rude' and told 'No' is a complete sentence.

Do people think you automatically die following a nuclear drop? You don't get a choice you know. You can sit outside and play in the fallout dust then wait for the radiation sickness to see you off I suppose. It's very unpleasant and takes a while though. I'd rather remain indoors thanks.

Reading some of this is like reliving the 80's when you never knew if you were going to wake up in the morning due to the nuclear threat between Russia and America.
Things in threes, covid, raising inflation and now Russia.

@ThatsAllFolks

What I am doing is offering to take in Ukrainian family. Ukrainians just sending out kids. Everyone else staying to fight. Puts us all inc Boris to shame

Hear hear. People in Ukraine are showing incredible courage. We should all be putting our efforts in to supporting them in whatever way we can.

All seems a bit dramatic. What are you prepping for? Cyber attacks will mean shops and tills will all be useless if banks go down. Your money will be worth nothing. But it will be temporary I would imagine. Shops would likely close to prevent looting and panicking anyway. And in the event of a physical or god forbid nuclear attack, we are all fucked anyway. I doubt very much having some extra cash and a fully charged power bank will really make you any less fucked. But I guess do whatever makes you feel better about the shit storm that may or may not happen. Either way there’s fuck all we can do.

@bluetongue Have you read ‘When the Wind Blows’? It’s very informative and useful. The couple in the book followed the government advice and it all turned out marvelously for them.

The book is good but have you seen the animation? I only saw it a couple of times years ago but it has stayed with me over decades.

OP I hear you. I had a two week old at the beginning of the first lockdown. Late on night I ordered 100 bottles of water and 24 tubes of tomato purée from Amazon. My rational was that it might be hard to get hold of fruit and veg and purée at least had some vitamins. I still have a couple of tubes left.

FWIW, the iodide has clinical merit in circumstances beyond a nuke landing in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36112372

Radio--isotopes don't respect national borders unless Priti dons a high-vis or perhaps Truss puts on a headscarf and sits on a tank and channels her inner Mrs Thatcher.