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Boris Johnson to address nation as he describes Russian invasion as 'catastrophe for our continent

784 replies

Ponyclubkick · 24/02/2022 10:54

Anyone finding the tone of this really quite terrifying...

I’m not one to get myself in a tizz over sensationalised news but this is starting to feel very different!

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DinnoWoman · 24/02/2022 15:30

shireiff

MistOverTheDowns · 24/02/2022 15:30

Well, let's hope so but the point of Conscription is the opposite of willing.

You know, they don't ask for volunteers-they conscript! No choice.

LondonJax · 24/02/2022 15:31

Apparently they're fighting at Chenobyl. The Russians, according to the Ukrainian President, are trying to seize the nuclear power plant...

I can't imagine what the Ukrainian people feel at the moment.

Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 15:32

Oh Christ.

They are going for Chernobyl

Keepyourheadscrewedon · 24/02/2022 15:32

Russia trying to breach chernobyl

Do we really expect that the west can sit by and let that happen?

DinnoWoman · 24/02/2022 15:32

Why would they want to do that?

DuncinToffee · 24/02/2022 15:32

They can lay down their arms and refuse. Any decent person would never participate in such an horrendous war crime.

As if that is so simple to do

ForTheLoveOfSleep · 24/02/2022 15:33

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

Ukraine is holding the areas, as we had hoped and prayed for.

If the Russian soldiers choose to invade an innocent nation and are happy to bomb civilian areas without a thought of the women, children and babies that are being killed right now what else can they expect??

The fact that you think Russian have a choice is laughable. They are just as much slaves to Putin as he plans Ukraine be.

Cheering and celebrating any person dying in this conflict like a goal scored is disgusting. EVERY death is a person to be mourned. A person who has been killed by Putin.

CrimeaChimera · 24/02/2022 15:33

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

No, quite right miss If the Russian army choose to disobey their orders and refused to harm Ukraine, then Putin's game would be finished, instantly.

They can lay down their arms and refuse. Any decent person would never participate in such an horrendous war crime.

If they refused they would be jailed. Or shot. Russia is run by an autocrat who cares nothing for human rights, and who happily murders dissenters on foreign soil at will, remember? Do you think an 18 year old Russian conscript has the ability to just refuse ?
Keepyourheadscrewedon · 24/02/2022 15:33

This is why China made the announcement, a nuclear plant is a massive problem for everyone.

JuergenSchwarzwald · 24/02/2022 15:34

@MistOverTheDowns

I think it will be difficult to avoid but if you figure out a way, let me know *@ArseInTheCoOpWindow*
Move to Ireland. Thank god for the CTA.
DuncinToffee · 24/02/2022 15:35

Well said ForTheLoveOfSleep

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 24/02/2022 15:36

General Sir Richard Shirreiff was on Radio 4 this morning and answered "Absolutely" when asked if the young people of this country might have to fight

Who gives a fuck what an old white warmonger thinks? It’s laughable.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 24/02/2022 15:37

@Keepyourheadscrewedon

No, quite right miss If the Russian army choose to disobey their orders and refused to harm Ukraine, then Putin's game would be finished, instantly.

They can lay down their arms and refuse. Any decent person would never participate in such an horrendous war crime.

I meant they'd have a hard time telling a 21 year old British civilian that they'd have to take up arms.

Russia is clearly a whole other kettle of fish. They can't just say no.

JuergenSchwarzwald · 24/02/2022 15:38

@MistOverTheDowns

I think the word with those in the know is that conscription will be making its way back, rumoured to be those between 18 and 25 although assurances are being drawn up that it will begin with those aged 20-25.

An announcement will probably be made at the end of next week unless a miracle happens. It is going to be a huge administrative task but an army is needed as soon as possible.

An army of unqualified kids. Yeah right.
Covidworries · 24/02/2022 15:38

Only on mumsnet would people think masks to prevent covid are the devils work and the poor youngsters shouldnt be made to wear them, whilst believing that we could conscript the same young people to go and fight.

Keepyourheadscrewedon · 24/02/2022 15:38

I am 100% going to support Ukraine to defend itself. I am sorry that Russia is such a god awful place that it would force a poor teen to go to war, but really that says everything about Russia and the change that is needed there. It is inhumane at every level.

Do you think it is acceptable for Russian soldiers to be sent to war with an incinerator trundling behind them??? They won't even be sent home if they are killed in action. So please spare me. Russia is a brutal country with zero compassion for human life if they are happy to treat their own soldiers with such total disregard.

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-deploys-mobile-crematorium-follow-troops-battle/

I feel sorry for the babies and mothers of Ukraine that have not chosen this path and are entirely innocent

Postdatedpandemic · 24/02/2022 15:39

China lifts all restrictions on wheat imports with Russia.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 24/02/2022 15:40

And an army of unqualified kids who don’t give a fuck. And don’t care what an old white warmonger thinks. Who is this ‘important’ general?

I look forward to seeing thisGrinGrinGrin

DuncinToffee · 24/02/2022 15:40

With all the cuts made to the armed forces, I think they will have trouble finding enough instructors.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 24/02/2022 15:42

Or enough kids who care.

5thnonblonde · 24/02/2022 15:43

Is this why they want to cut loans to those without GCSEs? Get all the NEETs conscripted

EmpressCixi · 24/02/2022 15:43

We have no business interfering with the Ukraine. It only became independent from Russia in 1991 and they want it back. Leave them to it, it’s not our war and there is no fucking way the U.K. could win any war against Russia anyway. We are blinded by past glories if we think our military power can match Russia.

And why make a stand with Ukraine? Putin took back the Crimea without us so much as making a whimper. Why the double standard?

Boris had better not start sending in British kids to die.

Tigersonvaseline · 24/02/2022 15:43

Why are they going for Chernobyl?

MistOverTheDowns · 24/02/2022 15:44

If he was young and black, would you take it more seriously?

I think many mothers give a fuck what he says because he knows what has been discussed and has been put forward to give the plan it's first 'soft' introduction to the public. Get people used to the idea.

Why do think the young of the rich and powerful have all been on holiday recently? Do you think they will be coming back when this is on the table?

Call me an old cynic but I don't think so!

Anyway, let's hope it's all a rumour.