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Prince Andrew photo

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2X4B523P · 16/02/2022 18:35

Apologies for another thread about Prince Andrew but haven’t seen one about this. I would have had him as guilty as the man behind the grassy knoll but seeing this article today I am at least doubting the photo. One of them has been photoshopped but which one? Seeing them side by side the lighting in the photo of Maxwell alone looks more genuine than the one with three.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10518737/Prince-Andrews-ex-Lady-Victoria-Hervey-calls-Virginia-Roberts-scam-artist.html

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 16/02/2022 20:09

[quote Roussette]For those doubting the original photo.. have a read of this

www.becomeabetterphotographer.co.uk/prince-andrew-and-virginia-roberts-giuffre-photo/[/quote]
It's all very well, but it seems there is no original photo now.

Roussette · 16/02/2022 20:11

Does that mean it didn't exist?

That's a bit of a stretch....

The FBI had it at one point

DingleyDel · 16/02/2022 20:13

Oh ffs. No one is questioning the authenticity of the photo apart from Andrew and ‘friends who have suggested it might have been faked’. The friends being Lady Victoria Hervey.

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 16/02/2022 20:15

@Roussette

Does that mean it didn't exist?

That's a bit of a stretch....

The FBI had it at one point

So you think the FBI have mislaid it?

Wouldcouldcantwont · 16/02/2022 20:15

The one of GM on her own has been photoshopped and rather badly. If you look at GM's boobs the left one is a copy of the right one with a weird shadow, and the dado rail on either side of the door doesn't run straight (the left hand side has been cloned and positioned incorrectly with different lighting). Also if you look at the left hand side of the door the frame has been cloned, you can tell by the rippling and blockyness of where the frame meets the wall. They've played about with the contrast and colour settings too.

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2X4B523P · 16/02/2022 20:16

Thanks for the link @Roussette, the picture on that one was a much higher resolution and doesn’t have the lighting issues of the one in the mail article.

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SpaceshiptoMars · 16/02/2022 20:17

@Chickenpoxtwins

If it's all made up and she's a scam artist, and the whole thing was about to fall apart - why's he paid her millions of quid?

I'm sure he's guilty of something, but whether it's exactly what, where and when VG said it was is something else. Would you bet the house on a single photo? The world is full of very, very talented graphics artists and they create entirely imaginary worlds you can 'fly' through that look real. We've come a long way from photographers, however expert.

Deep fakes are convincing enough now to be a real cause of concern for anyone with a reputation to keep up. You can no longer believe your eyes.

Eminybob · 16/02/2022 20:27

I think they are 2 different pictures, taken moments apart, due to GM having different hand positions and clothing folds, and the thumb over the camera lens. However that doesn’t account for the disappearing reappearing picture frame, with no picture in it

Eminybob · 16/02/2022 20:36

Actually, I’ve changed my mind, @Wouldcouldcantwont has convinced me, the GM one is defo photoshopped

MrsCremuel · 16/02/2022 20:39

Farcical, pathetic attempt to discredit VR. And a ridiculously long article.

Danja2010 · 16/02/2022 20:40

@Chickenpoxtwins

If it's all made up and she's a scam artist, and the whole thing was about to fall apart - why's he paid her millions of quid?

Sorry, she is a victim of a convicted sex offender, Epstein. She was groomed since the age of 15. Andrew was a good friend of Epstein and met Virginia in 3 or 4 locations. There are more than this photograph as evidence. There are travel logs , emails and texts that show that Virginia and Andrew were in the same place. Let’s not make a sex trafficked victim into your made up scam case. Victim shaming is always wrong.

Postdatedpandemic · 16/02/2022 20:41

Hang on, there is a door frame in one picture and not in the other?

Postdatedpandemic · 16/02/2022 20:44

And in this picture there is a prince and a door frame www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/prince-andrew-settlement-photograph-giuffre-b2015823.html

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2X4B523P · 16/02/2022 20:45

@SpaceshiptoMars, indeed and it’s not just photos it can be done with. The 2019 Terminator Dark Fate had a flash back scene where different actors did the parts of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong and super imposed their faces on them from 1992. You couldn’t tell the difference.

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Wouldcouldcantwont · 16/02/2022 20:48

@Postdatedpandemic

Hang on, there is a door frame in one picture and not in the other?

There is a door frame but the brightness/contrast setting just means that you can't see it clearly. By adjusting the settings the frame is much more noticeable.

Wouldcouldcantwont · 16/02/2022 20:55

I wouldn't want to rely on photographic evidence. Unless they have the negatives or can provide the original digital file it's very hard sometimes to tell if anything has been adjusted. I used to take the group photos for my child's school sports teams and I'd frequently merge two photos together so that we had a good photo where everyone was looking at the camera (with everyone's knowledge and permission of course!). No-one could tell.

ladycarlotta · 16/02/2022 22:25

Why are you not noticing that Ghislaine's top in the photo of her alone has clearly been really poorly photoshopped? They've just duplicated the same bits to patch in where Virginia's arm covers it. The same boob twice. The same ribbed bit across the stomach twice. Same with the window behind her. It doesn't look right because it's not right.

LemonDrizzles · 16/02/2022 22:26

@Owlandthepussycat7

In the one with Andrew it looks like there's maybe a chair and tables in front of the window that's not there in the ghislaine one alone.

Also her boobs are just weird and flat in the one of her alone. The right side of her body where Virginia is standing in the one of ghislaine alone is again just really flat suggesting something has been edited out

There's also a finger or something in front of the camera on the left of the photo

Her boobs see clearly badly photoshopped copied on the right photo. This is why they likely removed the arm - too noticeable...

WeAllHaveWings · 16/02/2022 22:59

It just shows how desperate the establishment and friends are to cover up his actions and they believe there are people out there who will fall for it.

The DM article even says the picture of maxwell alone appears to have been edited, so dont think that is in any doubt.

GoodMorningMrMagpie · 16/02/2022 23:19

In the photo of GM alone, the positions of her arms is really odd. Her left hand is bent at an odd angle which looks strange but if you look at the photo of all 3 together then she has her hands clasped in front of herself which looks natural. To me, this suggests that PA and VG have been removed from the pic and her right arm photoshopped to her side.

Owlandthepussycat7 · 16/02/2022 23:25

@ladycarlotta I've just realised thats why it looks so flat is because it's just the left boob pasted onto the right boob space

It's such a crappy photoshop to just cope and paste a boob

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 17/02/2022 02:48

@rookiemere

The most suspicious thing is Victoria Hervey being 44. I could have sworn she used to be the same age as me, and now shes 7 years younger.

I'm sure she was mid 20s when I was a teenager. If she's Andrew's ex, then her 'current' age would make her late teens/early 20s when they were dating, and he was mid 40s.

I suppose he may now regret some of the friendships he had at a certain time.

lemmein · 17/02/2022 03:59

Why would anyone believe what VH has to say? Who the fuck is she to say someone is lying about being trafficked?

'Lady Victoria does not have a copy of the exact Virginia photo from St Tropez which she claims was used to fake the Prince Andrew image, and it has never been seen publicly. However, she did share a bizarre painted reproduction of the alleged image to Instagram earlier this month. '

A painted reproduction? Are we supposed to be taking her seriously? Appalling, ridiculous woman - and appalling tabloids repeating her shit.

Here's another article about her:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1206838/Lady-Victoria-Hervey-date-relationship-dinners-Prince-Andrew-Jeffrey-Epstein-piers-morgan/amp

According to VH you aren't really trafficked unless you're caged and chained She was there, on Epstein's islands, in the apartments where these girls were kept. She was besties with GM and JE - and was dating PA around that time; yet the Mail print her rubbish as if she has no ulterior motive? Pffft - Get in the bin you lop-sided, rape apologist, heather mills lookalike muppet!

Polyanthus2 · 17/02/2022 07:52

The first photo has been photoshopped to remove Andrew and Virginia from the pic - hence the missing picture frame and the v white wall. Also Ghislaine's had is missing from her front of body as it would have been removed when V's arm was removed.

HandWash · 17/02/2022 08:16

These photos will have been examined by the most qualified experts money can buy. If one could have been proved to be fake it- would have!

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