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DS suspended from school - required to attend exclusion at another school?

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Cappio · 04/02/2022 22:20

DS has been suspended for 5 days (deserved)

But this is called an external exclusion? He has to attend the exclusion room at a completely different school for 5 days. He had no work set today except two worksheets which he completed in an hour and then slept for the rest of the morning.

Is this a usual way of dealing with suspended children these days? He’s year 11

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MichelleScarn · 04/02/2022 22:26

An external exclusion is when it's been a serious incident or repeated failure to meet school expectations of behaviour so the school doesn't want them on the grounds but not yet serious enough for permanent exclusion I think? Has there been internal exclusions first?

toomuchlaundry · 04/02/2022 22:40

If he is Y11 can't he do some revision, is he planning to do some GCSEs?

Snowisfalling33 · 04/02/2022 22:44

I think that sounds like quite a good idea actually.
I've seen a few too many "excluded" children riding their bikes and having a nice day off.
I assume this is the consequence of something fairly serious so it should be quite hard on him.
You do need to insist that the school set him some work or revision tasks to do though.

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Chichimcgee · 04/02/2022 22:45

Fixed term exclusions is what they call suspensions now for some reason. Due to him being year 11 I would assume it’s external purely for him to be revising and working towards GCSEs rather than exclusions being dealt with at home? My son has had countless exclusions and has always been home but he’s a lot younger.

FAQs · 04/02/2022 22:48

Maybe he could use his initiative and use the time to revise rather than at his age have to be directed.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 08:43

@toomuchlaundry of course he is, he’s doing the International Baccalaureate

Isn’t allowed to take anything into the exclusion room with him, no bags/books so no revision.
Just the work they set

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 08:44

@MichelleScarn no internal exclusions

They are classing this as the internal exclusion because it’s another school within their academy umbrella. He just isn’t allowed on his actual school site

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RiaOverTheRainbow · 05/02/2022 08:55

Has he asked if he can take revision materials, or be set more work? I'd be surprised if the school actively preferred for him to be bored instead of working.

toomuchlaundry · 05/02/2022 09:24

5 days is a lot, he must have done something serious, not very sensible at any time but certainly not in exam years

KimmyKimdoo · 05/02/2022 09:36

They won’t stop him taking revision materials if he’s genuinely trying to revise. They’ll have a blanket rule on no bags, coats, any other unnecessary personal items in the room with him for obvious reasons. He could politely hand his revision books/ folder in to the staff and ask if they would allow him to use them in the isolation room, which they invariably will do. I would only object to students who bring their mobile phones/ laptops for “revision” because they want to try to sit gaming/ texting - absolutely not. His behaviour must have been appalling to deserve this so I would be more focused on him learning his lesson and getting back to his own classes with a better attitude. These five days won’t make or break his exam performance - his attitude may do.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 12:43

@KimmyKimdoo - when you say “more focused on learning his lesson” - he was given two worksheets to complete.

A flat ban on bringing anything in. It isn’t his school and he isn’t in a position to argue with being told he can’t bring anything in

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toomuchlaundry · 05/02/2022 12:46

Has he asked his school if he can take some revision work in with him.

PupInAPram · 05/02/2022 12:48

@Chichimcgee

Fixed term exclusions is what they call suspensions now for some reason. Due to him being year 11 I would assume it’s external purely for him to be revising and working towards GCSEs rather than exclusions being dealt with at home? My son has had countless exclusions and has always been home but he’s a lot younger.
Actually they have just switched back to being called suspensions in the Dfe census.
MrsTophamHat · 05/02/2022 12:52

We've hosted exclusions at our school before. Iirc they were used when there were other factors at stake such as attendance. You do get students who you battle to get through the doors and then when they do, refuse to follow instructions or get into fights etc. It's hard.

AnxiousHeffalump · 05/02/2022 12:52

Yes this has become the norm. It’s not unusual to do five days at home, five days in another school’s inclusion unit, then five days in your own school’s IE. I don’t agree with it, as if does mean three weeks of lost education as the work set is usually far from adequate. I’m a teacher, by the way. Please speak to school, and tell them (don’t ask them) that your son will be bringing his own revision to do as the work set was inadequate. He is still entitled to his education.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 13:01

No risk of fights, he is marched to the unit at 9am and doesn’t leave until 3pm.

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whiteworldgettingwhiter · 05/02/2022 13:12

@Cappio

No risk of fights, he is marched to the unit at 9am and doesn’t leave until 3pm.
'Marched'? You sound like you don't super the school in how they're handling your ds's behaviour. Do you?
whiteworldgettingwhiter · 05/02/2022 13:13

Support, not super

titchy · 05/02/2022 13:15

IB in a state school? Confused

TrashyPanda · 05/02/2022 13:20

Can you check with the school about revision materials?

WeAllHaveWings · 05/02/2022 13:22

A flat ban on bringing anything in. It isn’t his school and he isn’t in a position to argue with being told he can’t bring anything in

Can you phone either school first thing Monday morning, tell them you fully support the exclusion and being at the other school, then ask if he can take more worksheets or paper in that you will provide (no bags or books) in to use the time effectively or if they can explain the purpose of not giving him work to do. I can fully understand no bags.

Tillymintpolo · 05/02/2022 13:26

Does he have a laptop ?

Theunamedcat · 05/02/2022 13:44

You need to tell them he needs more work than what is being provided he won't learn a damm thing if he is just sitting there

JuergenSchwarzwald · 05/02/2022 13:46

@titchy

IB in a state school? Confused
Yes - a lot of state schools offer the IB.
haaaaaaalp · 05/02/2022 13:53

At my school we call this an external inclusion.