DS suspended from school - required to attend exclusion at another school?

[Cappio]

DS has been suspended for 5 days (deserved)

But this is called an external exclusion? He has to attend the exclusion room at a completely different school for 5 days. He had no work set today except two worksheets which he completed in an hour and then slept for the rest of the morning.

Is this a usual way of dealing with suspended children these days? He’s year 11

So not ‘a shoulder barge’ then like you previously said ? And I’ve asked twice already, but does he have access to a laptop ?

So an ongoing and sustained pattern of bullying behaviour. Not the one off shoulder barge.

Not a shoulder barge then. Repeated behaviour?

It does seem insane that he's losing five days of learning. Can you email his form teacher, ask if they can intervene?

It is a normal thing these days. I work in a secondary and am on the rota for supervising the ‘exclusion room’. We regularly get students from other schools for a week, from any year. However, that level of work is not acceptable. If they won’t allow work brought in I would expect them to have given him a laptop and a work to access the on teams from his own school. Contact both schools to ask why there’s a lack of work, particularly for a GCSE student.

@Tillymintpolo

So not ‘a shoulder barge’ then like you previously said ? And I’ve asked twice already, but does he have access to a laptop ?

Obviously no access to a laptop access to two worksheets

@Tillymintpolo

So not ‘a shoulder barge’ then like you previously said ? And I’ve asked twice already, but does he have access to a laptop ?

You can click see all to see ops posts, she's already answered this. "No he isn’t allowed a laptop. Just a pen."

Oh so a prolonged (at least 3 months) of this in Year 11 when he is, quite frankly, old enough to know better.
But now it is the school at fault as they are not providing enough work for him to do.
I assume when he fails his exams he - and you- will see this week as the sole reason.
I really despair.

I've had to break up two year 11 boys fighting in a corridor. The year 7s around them were scared. If I'm honest, I was scared. They were both considerably bigger than me and both out of control angry. On busy school corridors pushing and shoving doesn't just involve the two students.

How ridiculous things are in some schools these days, sounds like more of a prison environment,for those who are exluded from a school for some bad behaviour.. I can see that some isolation would be ok,, but to curtail any of the learning process for child in that situation,is totally wrong, and does not serve any pupose at all.

How can I get into this exclusion room? Sounds perfect.

I’d be telling him to suck it up and use that time to think very carefully about what he wants in life. And explaining that he’ll always get more help if he helps himself first.

Then I’d be getting him right in with his revision when he gets home.

Exclusion booths at my school all have laptops and work is emailed or available on the vle. You don’t bring your own or phones. I have a feeling op’s son is not telling her the full story

As a senior leader in a school I can tell you there are some clear rules on exclusions that must be upheld otherwise you can make a formal complaint.

Here are the rules for fixed term exclusions (any exclusion that isn't permanent):
If a child has been excluded for a fixed period, schools should set and mark work for the first 5 school days.

If the exclusion is longer than 5 school days, the school must arrange suitable full-time education from the sixth school day, eg at a pupil referral unit.

For your child, the school should be providing work for the duration of the day and marking it (assuming the work would have been marked if they were in class). I'd start by contacting the Head of Behaviour at the normal school to state that insufficient work has been set and you expect more to be provided to a duration of 5/6 hours typical of a normal school day. You sound supportive of the exclusion but equally it won't teach your child a lesson if they get to snooze all day either!

I think it’s a good idea as many kids who are expelled are allowed to just sit at home on their Xbox all day.
It’s meant to be a punishment not a luxury.

I don’t think it’s fair that you think the teachers should do extra work to provide more work for your son who has done wrong.

I presume this was his first day? I can imagine that his teachers would need to be given some time to collect the work he needs, hence the limited work provided on day 1.

I'm a senior teacher too.
Lots of holes in the op's story.

It's pretty standard.
Quite a few young people I've worked with that have been excluded have done their 'time' at another school in the Borough

@Cappio

“Extreme violence”, “must have done something horrendous”

No and no. He was involved in a tit for tat with another pupil which started as a joke and got out of hand. Both of them expelled to different schools for 5 days.

No violence except a shoulder barge in the corridor. No weapons, no drugs, no stealing or menacing texts. No social media bullying.

You said he completely deserved the punishment and yet here…here’s just a tit for tat

* Over a 3 month period, repeated shoulder barges in the corridor and arguing.*

Ah
And so the story emerges

@JuergenSchwarzwald

11/12 state schools offer IB at Middle level, 23 at Diploma so no, lots of state schools don’t offer it and even fewer (if any) offer it alongside gcse or A-level (the schools don’t give up a choice within school, they do one or the other).