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DS suspended from school - required to attend exclusion at another school?

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Cappio · 04/02/2022 22:20

DS has been suspended for 5 days (deserved)

But this is called an external exclusion? He has to attend the exclusion room at a completely different school for 5 days. He had no work set today except two worksheets which he completed in an hour and then slept for the rest of the morning.

Is this a usual way of dealing with suspended children these days? He’s year 11

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justaweeone · 05/02/2022 15:36

Ask his own school about work. We send students to others schools as well.

Squaffle · 05/02/2022 15:50

Try and find the positives in this: this type of exclusion is offered so that it doesn’t go on his permanent record and therefore won’t harm his opportunities for Sixth Form/college/Uni/wherever he’s going next.

If it was a formal suspension, his school would be legally bound to declare it in references etc. With the external exclusion, it’s 5 days and then forgotten about. So actually they’ve done you both a favour.

The issue here is the lack of work provided which you can raise with the school, in a reasonable way. I agree with PP though, in this stage of Year 11 he should be able to revise without too much adult input. Maybe this has been a good lesson for him with study leave approaching… what has prevented him from revising? Why has he chosen to sleep rather than making a revision timetable and getting his books out? How can he do it differently next time?

GiantHaystacks2021 · 05/02/2022 16:05

What did he do to merit this suspension?

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wanttomarryamillionaire · 05/02/2022 16:27

Wish there had been something like this when my problem child was younger! He was frequently excluded from school and he loved it! Ive never understood how being forced to stay home was seen as a punishment,

Hawkins001 · 05/02/2022 16:34

all the best op, for a twist on films with detention themed, in contrast to the breakfast club, such as haunting of crestview high, (a bit of random trivia)

On a serious note, they should provide more study materials to be more productive, I would of thought

GracieLouFreeebush · 05/02/2022 16:42

The IB Dip in sixth form yes, not the middle years IB in year 11.

A few state schools offer it too, OPs sons school and I know a couple around here do too

DePfeffoff · 05/02/2022 17:10

As the school explained it they have to provide an education legally. It’s easier to do that if a child is in school. I don’t think 2 worksheets is providing an education. We’ve just done two years of online/hybrid schooling. I’m not asking for a “1-1 personalised education” for my little darling hmm I’m asking for something more than 2 worksheets

I think you're right. As parents we have a duty to ensure our children attend full time education, on the other side of the coin the school has a duty to ensure that the child is being taught. Obviously handing out worksheets is not teaching, otherwise we could make every teacher redundant. If a parent who was electively home educating tried to get away with that, they'd never get away with it.

DePfeffoff · 05/02/2022 17:13

Teaching staff have enough to do without setting extra work or guided revision for a child that's in external exclusion.

Not a valid excuse. If the school chooses to set up this arrangement, it has a duty to continue to do the job it is paid for. Plus, in this case, it would be easy enough for them just to let the child take his revision books in, but they won't.

He's Y11 - he will have plenty of revision he can do self guided!!

Didn't you read the bit where he wasn't allowed to take revision work in?

But he chose to sleep! Needs a ticket up his arse!!

Charming fantasies you have about how to treat children, @JugglingJanuary

Inspectorslack · 05/02/2022 17:15

If I was you I’d Phone the school and ask if he could bring plain a4 notepad and a textbook for revision

DePfeffoff · 05/02/2022 17:15

It doesn't look as if the school is complying with the Department for Education guidance - dera.ioe.ac.uk/712/1/DCSF-00055-2010.pdf.

Ignoring the rules isn't setting the best example to their pupils, is it?

MoiraNotRuby · 05/02/2022 17:22

Bloody nora so many holier than thou replies.

OP how dare you post on here without using a sackcloth and ashes emoji. Go away and teach your son right from wrong IMMEDIATELY and tell him he's naughty because that will perfectly on a teenager

inesme · 05/02/2022 17:27

This kind of exclusion will teach him nothing and will do nothing for his behaviour. It's futile and draconian.

It delivers no positive outcomes for anyone.

I'd be outlining this with the school while fully supporting them in doling out an appropriate and useful punishment.

TheViewFromTheCheapSeats · 05/02/2022 17:52

If I were you I’d politely email about brining in some revision for after work.
My ds was a decent kid with one exclusion in yr 9. Barely any other issues and went on to do well at university and work. Focus on moving forward and this being an exception

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 17:55

“Extreme violence”, “must have done something horrendous”

No and no. He was involved in a tit for tat with another pupil which started as a joke and got out of hand. Both of them expelled to different schools for 5 days.

No violence except a shoulder barge in the corridor. No weapons, no drugs, no stealing or menacing texts. No social media bullying.

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mumofEandE · 05/02/2022 17:55

A 5 day exclusion for a Year 11 is the most serious I would think
At my school the student has to be provided with work from each lesson they are missing - we're reminded it's a legal requirement

mumofEandE · 05/02/2022 17:57

@Cappio

“Extreme violence”, “must have done something horrendous”

No and no. He was involved in a tit for tat with another pupil which started as a joke and got out of hand. Both of them expelled to different schools for 5 days.

No violence except a shoulder barge in the corridor. No weapons, no drugs, no stealing or menacing texts. No social media bullying.

You don't get a 5 day exclusion fir a 'shoulder barge' Don't delude yourself

Inspectorslack · 05/02/2022 18:00

@Cappio

“Extreme violence”, “must have done something horrendous”

No and no. He was involved in a tit for tat with another pupil which started as a joke and got out of hand. Both of them expelled to different schools for 5 days.

No violence except a shoulder barge in the corridor. No weapons, no drugs, no stealing or menacing texts. No social media bullying.

That seems a disproportionate punishment for a shoulder badge.

AnxiousHeffalump · 05/02/2022 18:00

Oh yes you can.

Inspectorslack · 05/02/2022 18:03

*barge

Hercisback · 05/02/2022 18:09

You don't get a 5 day exclusion for a shoulder barge. Or if you do please tell me the school as I want a job there!!

I was pushed by a student (pretty hard and all on cctv) he got a one day internal exclusion.

FrippEnos · 05/02/2022 18:23

Cappio

is he actually finishing the work, or doing a half assed job of finishing the work?

I know that if the pupils finish the work as it should be done it will take the full lesson time. However lots of pupils in IX will write a couple of words for each question and claim that its done.

However if you are not happy with the amount of work set contact the school and ask them to set more.

Unfortunately I can pretty much state that only a fraction of the teachers will be setting viable work. (and yes it pains me to say that)

FrippEnos · 05/02/2022 18:25

EarringsandLipstick

But it's shocking that the school is not interested in a more meaningful solution.

The school will have tried many different ways of getting to the bottom of this.

The teachers and pupils are probably happy to not have to put up with whatever the OP's DS is doing.

PugInTheHouse · 05/02/2022 18:29

TBH that sounds disproportionate to the crime. 5 days is a lot without being allowed to do any revision. Surely the exclusion away from friends amd normal lessons is the punishment. It makes no sense at all they can't revise. For 5 days that is pretty boring so surely job done.

Tillymintpolo · 05/02/2022 18:34

A Shoulder barge won’t get 5 days exclusion

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 18:34

I can assure you you do. Over a 3 month period, repeated shoulder barges in the corridor and arguing.

Caught on CCTV and suspended. Evidence on both sides. Not expelled for bullying, but bad behaviour

School take a very hard line

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