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DS suspended from school - required to attend exclusion at another school?

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Cappio · 04/02/2022 22:20

DS has been suspended for 5 days (deserved)

But this is called an external exclusion? He has to attend the exclusion room at a completely different school for 5 days. He had no work set today except two worksheets which he completed in an hour and then slept for the rest of the morning.

Is this a usual way of dealing with suspended children these days? He’s year 11

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Suprima · 05/02/2022 13:57

What has he done OP? This would be very severe at my school.

They aren’t supposed to be facilitating a lovely quiet study time for him and having teachers put upon by producing more work that can be accessed independently by a child who cannot behave.

They don’t want him on the school grounds. It’s a boring punishment for wrongdoing. I don’t know why you can’t see this rather than getting cross that they haven’t organised a personalised learning schedule for him for these 5 days? Why should he get that? That’s more than the kids who are following the rules are entitled to.

Itsalmostanaccessory · 05/02/2022 13:57

Phone the school he has been put into and just speak to then.

Support the exclusion. Dont argue about that. But ask them to explain why he cant do revision. If they refuse to allow it then ask them what work has been set for him to account for 6 hours of school.

And I hope you're dealing with whatever behaviour caused this because he cannot continue down this path.

Itsalmostanaccessory · 05/02/2022 13:59

@Suprima

He should be allowed to take in his textbooks and notes to do his own revision work. He should not be sat in a room for 6 hours with no access to study material.

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EarringsandLipstick · 05/02/2022 14:01

@Suprima

What has he done OP? This would be very severe at my school.

They aren’t supposed to be facilitating a lovely quiet study time for him and having teachers put upon by producing more work that can be accessed independently by a child who cannot behave.

They don’t want him on the school grounds. It’s a boring punishment for wrongdoing. I don’t know why you can’t see this rather than getting cross that they haven’t organised a personalised learning schedule for him for these 5 days? Why should he get that? That’s more than the kids who are following the rules are entitled to.

It's a boring punishment for wrongdoing

What will sitting / sleeping for 5 hours teach him?

He may well be bored but it's unlikely to effect change in his behaviour.

Of course he should have set work and / or access to his study material.

Suprima · 05/02/2022 14:13

@EarringsandLipstick

I doubt the school cares. They just want him off site. A 5 day exclusion is not given out like a packet of sweets.

I’d be more pissed off at my son’s behaviour, rather than being concerned that school wasn’t making the time more bearable/useful for him and ‘marching’ him places Confused

earlydoors42 · 05/02/2022 14:14

Our local schools do this. It feels like a punishment for the parents, working out how to get their kid to a far away school and back at the right times.

haaaaaaalp · 05/02/2022 14:15

Do they not provide a taxi, we have to provide transport to get them there and back.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 14:29

Yes I support the school or I would have just kept him home for 5 days as an un-authorised absence.

As the school explained it they have to provide an education legally. It’s easier to do that if a child is in school. I don’t think 2 worksheets is providing an education. We’ve just done two years of online/hybrid schooling. I’m not asking for a “1-1 personalised education” for my little darling Hmm I’m asking for something more than 2 worksheets.

And yes, they do IB in state schools. We also give them the summer off so they can go work down farm

No he isn’t allowed a laptop. Just a pen.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 14:30

No taxi/transport. He is dropped before work

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CurryWurstUndPommes · 05/02/2022 14:36

Hmm yeah I think I'd be focussing my efforts more on the reason for the exclusion than the number of worksheets provided.

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 14:37

@CurryWurstUndPommes pretty sure you could do both at the same time

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JugglingJanuary · 05/02/2022 14:41

@Snowisfalling33

I think that sounds like quite a good idea actually. I've seen a few too many "excluded" children riding their bikes and having a nice day off. I assume this is the consequence of something fairly serious so it should be quite hard on him. You do need to insist that the school set him some work or revision tasks to do though.
Insist??

Teaching staff have enough to do without setting extra work or guided revision for a child that's in external exclusion.

He's Y11 - he will have plenty of revision he can do self guided!!

But he chose to sleep! Needs a ticket up his arse!!

@Cappio. All very stressful I'm
Sorry. Is there anyone Dad/family/friend (yours not his) teacher, pastoral care that he might actually listen to, before he screws up some important school years completely??

Musicalmaestro · 05/02/2022 14:42

I'd be contacting his home school and talking this through with them

JugglingJanuary · 05/02/2022 14:42

bloody phone
Rocket NOT ticket!!

IncyWincyGrownUp · 05/02/2022 14:44

If the school is under the same academy umbrella, it would stand to reason that they’d have the same textbooks available as his usual school. I would ask if they could locate one, and some plain paper, in addition to the worksheets.

toomuchlaundry · 05/02/2022 14:48

Surely in Y11 he would have his own revision guides he could bring in if he was allowed

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Cappio · 05/02/2022 14:48

@JugglingJanuary, he knows what he did was wrong. He’s managed to get through nearly 12 years of schooling with maybe 3 detentions. He’s not some horrible little sod, he’s a teenager who did something stupid.

I doubt very much there will be a recurrence

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Pumpkintopf · 05/02/2022 14:48

Your messages are coming across as quite confrontational op.

I'd take some of the excellent advice offered here and politely ask the headteacher of his home school whether it might be possible to arrange for your son to bring in some revision materials with him so that he can do some productive work.

MintJulia · 05/02/2022 14:49

I'd ring the school and insist that he be allowed to take revision books in.

If they refuse, I'd ask for a written statement from the school, explaining why they think preventing your son from revising is useful at this point in the year.

Tillymintpolo · 05/02/2022 14:49

Does he have access to a laptop ?

toomuchlaundry · 05/02/2022 14:51

I don’t think I would be insisting but I would be asking, he has obviously done something quite horrendous so I would be working with the school not against them

EarringsandLipstick · 05/02/2022 14:55

[quote Suprima]@EarringsandLipstick

I doubt the school cares. They just want him off site. A 5 day exclusion is not given out like a packet of sweets.

I’d be more pissed off at my son’s behaviour, rather than being concerned that school wasn’t making the time more bearable/useful for him and ‘marching’ him places Confused[/quote]
They should care.

Of course there are issues that has led to the exclusion, which is clearly problematic

But it's shocking that the school is not interested in a more meaningful solution.

An earlier PP was correct to suggest OP should contact the school & find out why he can't study

GracieLouFreeebush · 05/02/2022 15:02

Was it short notice? I’ve had kids excluded during lesson 5, parents spoken to after school and staff then not informed works needed until they’ve logged off of emails and then on a morning having other things to do first thing so not having it until the second day. Maybe give them a chance to have it for Monday?

If not to show you support them you could let him sit there and be bored stiff, and then do extra revision at home to make up for the hours missed.

titchy · 05/02/2022 15:03

Yes - a lot of state schools offer the IB.

The IB Dip in sixth form yes, not the middle years IB in year 11.

Toanewstart23 · 05/02/2022 15:03

I suspect for extreme violence
Op - it’s 5 days
Just tell him to suck it up. You too