Does anyone actually believe that Boris didn't knowingly break the rules?

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Other than his cronies (and even they can't really believe it!)

He’s a proven liar. It’s was he does, lie and bluster. And because he keeps getting away with it, he keeps doing it.

I bet he’s furious this isn’t going away

I can’t imagine anyone in the country thinks he isn’t lying.

I’m not sure that Boris believes it really.

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No but there are lots of quiet Tories who don’t care.
I don't really care. BJ should resign and let's appoint someone competent Focussing on 'parties' will not bring anyone back to life.

Of course he should, but he won’t and next election whoever has wangled their way to the top will get voted in. It’s Tory central round here - they don’t care.

What I don’t understand is that in such a high level job as his it’s all about the ‘optics’-how does this look to the public-it should all be about showing himself in the best light yet over and over again he’s made himself look like an utter cunt.

@helpfulperson

I don't think he thought 'I know its against the rules but let's have a party'. I think he just didn't even consider the question which in some ways is worse.

This is sort of what I think

During lockdown, I sometimes looked at things like huge queues for the supermarket, or heard stories about items being quarantined if a customer had touched them and thought, does the PM, on a real level, know what's going on?

I had to go into the City once for a medical appointment and I wondered if he knew it was deserted.

But if he just does as he's told, that's almost worse than "sod it, I'll have a party, .i'll get away with it."

I didn't see more than a couple of clips from press conferences but I only saw him checking rules. I don't know how I feel if he genuinely doesn't know what hell he inflicted on everyone, as a man who is meant to be a libertarian.

Sadly there are plenty of people that do still believe him, and will go with whatever shit he comes out with. Have a look at some of his supporters groups on Facebook, it's like another world!

No one actually thinks it will be believed though, do they? It is just pure shithousery to make us realise how completely powerless we are and how futile everything is... They are laughing at us!

Interesting Adam Curtis short:

Oh Dearism g.co/kgs/FNargC

His excuse has now morphed into not being able to understand his own rules without someone telling him what they are, minute by minute.

I fucking hate him. It's now a visceral hate - minute by minute.

@TheSnowyOwl

No. If he wouldn’t be prime minister if he wasn’t capable of understanding the rules that he dictated to the rest of the country. So since stupidity is the only excuse and one he can’t use, the only other option is being a liar.

It's not just stupidity or lying

There's a third option of "don't know, don't care, someone else makes the law really and it doesn't affect me".

I'd love a journalist to wave at him a video clip of him telling us the rules, and ask 'was this you?'

Some people are so entitled thay they genuinely don't don't know when they're lying or not because they're only used to things going swimmingly for them. There are actually many, many people like him in the UK.

In the time lading up to the pandemic he had more holidays (while PM) than I've had in my entire life.

Nah, thought the rules didn't apply to him. At an old job, we used to have working lunches once a month where we all took a dish in and there was wine at that. But this was pre-Covid obvs and there was literally just seven of us.
I think he thinks if he labels quizzes, wine and cheese and outdoor 'meetings' with wine as work-related/morale etc then he can get by the rules but BYOB is a bridge too far surely Shirley
especially with the numbers involved.
Am amazed Cummings et al sat on it for as long as they did, mind

it should all be about showing himself in the best light yet over and over again he’s made himself look like an utter cunt.

That is his best light...

He's a liar and a cheat.

If Carrie were posting about him on Mumsnet the overwhelming vote would be for her to LTB

No, Bawbag Boris is a fucking LIAR.

I can believe he personally considered it ‘work’ in as much as it was a function with his work colleagues, which he possibly attended largely because it was polite to do so and it was held in his own garden, rather than seeing it like “hosting a party” for his personal friends for fun.

Doesn’t explain why they were holding the party at all though!

No but my opinion of him couldn't get any lower so I don't really care that much about any of the revelations.

Not for a single second.

No of course not. He's lying about this like he lies about everything else.

Not in a million years!

The photo is pretty clear

@Romeiswheretheheartis

I'd love a journalist to wave at him a video clip of him telling us the rules, and ask 'was this you?'

This would be excellent.

No.

He made them and got them passed through parliament.

@LessTime

The photo is pretty clear

Which photo?