Page 31 | Another Bloody Downing Street party

JustJam4Tea · 2022-01-10T21:51:17+00:00

So hours after telling us to only meet one other person outside from a different household 100 invited to Downing Street BYO in the garden. It was unlawful to mix outside. If my employer had invited 100 staff to a garden party we’d have all been arrested.

longwayoff · 12/01/2022 14:29

A work gathering? And bring your own bottle? Interesting workplace. Do they have to take a bottle of booze to work every day or just on those special occasions that aren't special at all, no sir, not here, just work?

IntermittentParps · 12/01/2022 14:32

Has anyone in the House brought up the reports that staff were told to delete any messages that might be incriminating?

SpindleyCrow · 12/01/2022 14:39

I'm beginning to wonder what the truth actually is about the severity of Johnson's covid. He tested positive at the end of March, was in hospital by around the 9th April, then it was supposedly touch and go in ICU, and then he was recuperating in Chequers till 26th April when he returned to work.

But he was cool about boozy 'work' parties for dozens of staff working around him by mid-May? Not buying it.

Anothet tweet from lawyer Andrew Wagner (thanks for the link, @DuncinToffee) is very interesting, too:

This [apology today] is very much about his personal liability - he is implicitly denying he knew what the event was, had seen the email or had anything to do with it. Because here's the key point: on the wording of email ("bring your own booze") this couldn't technically have been a work event

So the public are wrong, and Reynolds is wrong too, according to Johnson's denial of personal liability. And Johnson is 'technically' innocent, again according to Johnson.

I'm still picturing Jim Shannon MP crying in parliament. Rules were imposed on us, it wasn't just about us choosing to follow them.

SerendipityJane · 12/01/2022 14:40

@IntermittentParps

Has anyone in the House brought up the reports that staff were told to delete any messages that might be incriminating?

Well now we know what the Met Police were doing there. Giving a masterclass in how to eliminate embarrassing and "unsuitable" evidence.

LumosSolem · 12/01/2022 14:44

I know what you're saying @SpindleyCrow but he seems to be unable to take anything at all seriously. I know his clown act is just that- an act- but his conduct in both his personal and professional lives over the years have shown how poor his morals, judgement, and ability to take anything seriously are. I can well imagine that his experience of covid, even if he really was that unwell, would not alter his behaviour in the slightest.

SerendipityJane · 12/01/2022 14:45

I'm beginning to wonder what the truth actually is about the severity of Johnson's covid.

How severe is "fuck-all" covid ?

My turn to be a Thick As Fuck Tory (well adopt their tactics).

No amount of "evidence" will ever convince me that lying weasel of an excuse for human had Covid. The whole thing was a sick PR psycho drama to lull the country into some sort of mass delusion that the government were in any way competent. And while we were mesmerized, they slipped their mates a fucktonne of our tax money.

VikingOnTheFridge · 12/01/2022 14:53

He did look dog fucking rough just before they announced he had it tbf.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 12/01/2022 14:54

@SerendipityJane I think it's perfectly reasonable to doubt anything that comes out of BJ's mouth , in the circumstances.

However, a couple of the doctors who treated him have confirmed this publicly, I believe. I also think that - given the twat was bragging about shaking hands with Covid patients and wandering round hospitals unmasked during the first peak - it would have been a miracle if he hadn't caught it.

Occam's Razor, in my view. He did have it. He was really ill. He was happy to hold this party so soon afterwards because HE was protected (immunity) and genuinely didn't give a shit if anyone else died.

jgw1 · 12/01/2022 14:59

@Hearwego

I also think lots people are concerned about themselves now ,to care too much about Boris and a party. In April energy prices will go up and so will national insurance contributions. Most working families will be 2 grand a year worse off. That’s with energy prices doubling and NI increases. There doesn’t seem that much concern for that now and what is Keir Starmer doing about it? Come on Labour, have some fighting spirit.. Because were all going to be worse off in a few months time....

Which party put forward a motion in the Commons this week that would have removed VAT on fuel for the year? Which party opposed such a move?

IntermittentParps · 12/01/2022 15:00

@SerendipityJane

I'm beginning to wonder what the truth actually is about the severity of Johnson's covid.

How severe is "fuck-all" covid ?

My turn to be a Thick As Fuck Tory (well adopt their tactics).

No amount of "evidence" will ever convince me that lying weasel of an excuse for human had Covid. The whole thing was a sick PR psycho drama to lull the country into some sort of mass delusion that the government were in any way competent. And while we were mesmerized, they slipped their mates a fucktonne of our tax money.

While I wouldn't put a sick PR psychodrama past him and his government, realistically I don't think the whole of the NHS could have been made to conspire in or keep quiet about something like that.

I tend to agree with Jesus that he caught it from shaking hands with Covid patients and not wearing a mask.

And that he was happy to hold a party so soon afterwards because he now had immunity and didn't give a flying one about anyone else.

SerendipityJane · 12/01/2022 15:16

@VikingOnTheFridge

He did look dog fucking rough just before they announced he had it tbf.

That would be the wages of sin.

the80sweregreat · 12/01/2022 15:23

Oh silly me, it's all labour's fault.
Nothing to do with the Tories having illegal parties and breaking their own rules :(

kittensinthekitchen · 12/01/2022 15:28

Are we sure that BYOB definitely referred to booze or bottle, and not to bombs, a la System of a Down?

Blast off, it's party time
And we don't live in a fascist nation
Blast off, it's party time
And where the fuck are you?

PartyOnKale · 12/01/2022 15:28

If Boris Johnson can believe he wasn't at a party them I can easily believe any Covid conspiracy theory out there.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/01/2022 15:32

If you think back to the woman who was arrested for meditating outside in the first lockdown, the two who were fined (later revoked) for taking a cup of coffee on their walk in the second/ third one (the January one), the mind boggles.

Imagine standing and announcing all these restrictions knowing that you had had or were about to have an 100 person party.

Peregrina · 12/01/2022 15:34

Didn't the Police also break up a large wedding party of 200 or more?

Clavinova · 12/01/2022 15:35

I'm still picturing Jim Shannon MP crying in parliament. Rules were imposed on us

Northern Ireland have had more restrictions than England I believe.

jgw1 · 12/01/2022 15:36

@Clavinova

I'm still picturing Jim Shannon MP crying in parliament. Rules were imposed on us

Northern Ireland have had more restrictions than England I believe.

@Clavinova Have you had a chance in your busy schedule to watch the Downing Street briefing from 20th May yet? What did it say about what people were allowed to do in terms of meeting others outdoors?

PartyOnKale · 12/01/2022 15:37

We were all restricted to a similar degree with Downing Street being the significant outlier it would appear to me.

the80sweregreat · 12/01/2022 15:38

The news about Prince Andrew has toppled all the talk our PM.
I'm sure the devil looks out for BJ at times.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/01/2022 15:38

I’m pretty sure most people were following the rules, particularly before Barnard Castle-gate.

I’m not sure I’ve broken the rules yet at all. The only potential time was when my son self isolated at his grandparents’ house rather than here in summer 2021 when his school bubble burst as our house was a building site. But as he wasn’t a close contact (confirmed with school) I don’t think he was actually required by law to self isolate, the school just told the whole year groups to to for some reason.

Clavinova · 12/01/2022 15:41

Have you had a chance in your busy schedule to watch the Downing Street briefing from 20th May yet?

No, I haven't.

BBC
The prime minister did not see or receive the email inviting staff to "socially distanced drinks" on 20 May 2020, his press secretary has told reporters - nor did he tell him to send it.

kittensinthekitchen · 12/01/2022 15:42

@Clavinova

I'm still picturing Jim Shannon MP crying in parliament. Rules were imposed on us

Northern Ireland have had more restrictions than England I believe.

What? What's the relevance of this statement?

Jim Shannon followed the laws (not rules, not restrictions) enforced by NI.

Boris (and a number of other Conservative cronies) didn't follow the laws enforced by his own party in England.

Peregrina · 12/01/2022 15:43

Half the time we didn't know what were rules and what was 'guidance'. But prior to the vaccine most of us obeyed what we thought were the rules to avoid catching it.

jgw1 · 12/01/2022 15:43

@Clavinova

Have you had a chance in your busy schedule to watch the Downing Street briefing from 20th May yet?

No, I haven't.

BBC
The prime minister did not see or receive the email inviting staff to "socially distanced drinks" on 20 May 2020, his press secretary has told reporters - nor did he tell him to send it.

@Clavinova Ah that is a shame and explains why you are not up to date with all the facts in this case. Since you seem to have plenty of time to google irrelevant squirrels to post on this thread, you surely aren't too busy to watch a short clip of Oliver Dowden explaining what the rules were on the 20th May 2020.