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Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty.. What does this mean for Andrew?

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InkyPinkyParlezVous · 29/12/2021 22:11

Any thoughts?

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HobgoblinGold · 30/12/2021 21:01

Absolutely fuck all as he's protected by the best legal and PR team.

Phantom1 · 30/12/2021 21:01

SammyScrounge

Thanks.

Of course PA is not above reproach and there must be a lot about him and this case we don't know but we need to question motives and look at the bigger picture if we can. There must be more than just an accusation and a photograph.

Does PA think he is untouchable and/or entitled because of who he is? Epstein was rich. Was PA chasing the money? Is VG chasing the money? Will she sue others?

something2say · 30/12/2021 21:04

I hope theres a lot more that comes tumbling out.

MintJulia · 31/12/2021 04:34

@MrsTerryPratchett

And VG had better have good reasons for only exposing PA, especially when she has all ready been paid off.

Yeah, good call, let's examine HER motives. Hmm

A reasoned and fair investigation considers everyone's motives.
SunshineOnKeith · 31/12/2021 08:11

Exactly so. There are many questions to be answered before condemning sleazy Andrew. And VG had better have good reasons for only exposing PA, especially when she has all ready been paid off.

Evidence I expect. She can clearly put him in the house of a sex trafficker consorting with a victim of sex trafficking. She likely doesn't have photos of other men involved - they were probably smarter.

Her repeated efforts in his case have contributed indirectly at least, to the exposure of Epstein's abuse and the convictions of Ghislaine despite her loss of privacy and ongoing personal attacks from the public.

That is to be applauded. Its almost as if she's after something more than money....
Justice maybe?

Becles · 31/12/2021 08:42

As with any time Andrew and this case comes up, I expect a flurry of anti Meghan articles, forum posts and twitter posts to obscure this news. At the very least to give the false equivalence that she's just that much worse than Andrew.

Fireblanket · 31/12/2021 08:55

I thought that VG had accepted a payout from JE, so her case against PA is separate?

SerendipityJane · 31/12/2021 09:56

Naughty Jane ...

Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty.. What does this mean for Andrew?
longwayoff · 31/12/2021 11:37

Grin excellent comment.

Crankley · 31/12/2021 12:09

I'm not suggesting the whole Prince Andrew thing isn't incredibly tacky but would like to ask what exactly you think he is guilt of? The woman who is currently trying to sue him was not under age at the time.

SunshineOnKeith · 31/12/2021 12:13

@Crankley

I'm not suggesting the whole Prince Andrew thing isn't incredibly tacky but would like to ask what exactly you think he is guilt of? The woman who is currently trying to sue him was not under age at the time.
Yes she was, according to the NY legislation under which the case is being prosecuted (age of consent is 18).

Having sex with a victim of trafficking is a crime regardless of age.

Mysterian · 31/12/2021 12:47

Well, she'll be trying to get a lighter sentence and nicer jail in exchange for spilling the beans so if he's guilty...

Mamamia7962 · 31/12/2021 13:58

I think it will depend on how much her sentence could be reduced by. She is 60 and faces up to over 60 years in prison. If by talking, her sentence is reduced to say 30 years she is still likely to die in prison. Will she think it's worth it?

something2say · 31/12/2021 14:03

She hasn't got many morals and may enjoy stirring the pot. She may also blackmail..

Personally I think any powerful men that were involved and hence now at risk will do anything to 'help' her, thus helping themselves. JE 'died". She is left...

SerendipityJane · 31/12/2021 16:26

I see Prince Andrew is now being asked to prove he doesn't sweat.

Why, it's almost like some people don't believe him.

Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty.. What does this mean for Andrew?
Laiste · 31/12/2021 16:47

Harvey Wankstain, Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ... wow, what a guest list for your daughter's 18th ShockHmm

SerendipityJane · 31/12/2021 16:55

@Laiste

Harvey Wankstain, Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ... wow, what a guest list for your daughter's 18th ShockHmm
In a royal residence too ...
givethatbabyaname · 31/12/2021 17:07

That photo is really something. At an 18yo’s birthday party. Knowing what we know now, about what they were all up to at the time. Wow.

It’s almost like Andrew has a radar for disgusting rich people. Wonder why he enjoyed their company this much.

Mrsjayy · 31/12/2021 17:07

I can't believe he invited THEM to his daughters birthday party that is sickening, that poor girl!

SerendipityJane · 31/12/2021 17:13

@Mrsjayy

I can't believe he invited THEM to his daughters birthday party that is sickening, that poor girl!
Are you suggesting they gatecrashed ?

I guess this thread could be useful for Prine Andrews defence team. They can try and see how far peoples credulity will stretch ....

Laiste · 31/12/2021 17:24

givethatbabyaname - It’s almost like Andrew has a radar for disgusting rich people

Birds of a feather flock together.

Lots of truth in old sayings.

Mrsjayy · 31/12/2021 17:27

Are you suggesting they gatecrashed ?

Yes of course that is what I was suggesting Hmm

longwayoff · 31/12/2021 17:32

Medals eh? What on earth can they be for?

Motherdare · 31/12/2021 17:41

Personally I think any powerful men that were involved and hence now at risk will do anything to 'help' her, thus helping themselves

What could they do though? She has been found guilty. Isn’t it a bit late for help?

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/12/2021 18:06

Having sex with a victim of trafficking is a crime regardless of age.

It's worth saying that studies have been done and I also have experience of working with women who are prostituted. No john ever asks them if they are pimped or trafficked. Never. So the defense that men don't know is repulsive. They don't care to check. And when there are obvious signs, they don't care either. In my line of work that is track marks, weighing 90lbs, and crying when they were out working. In his it's a 17yo coming on to men at events thrown by known arseholes.

Not asking doesn't mean you don't know.