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Are there any conspiracy theories you actually believe?

366 replies

AnxiousAngelina · 07/12/2021 07:28

Inspired by another thread. Come on even if they're mad ones... fess up.

I cant remember the details but I remember doing a bit of online research years ago and thinking it's not 100% impossible that Tupac faked his death!

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dropitlikeitsloth · 08/12/2021 08:28

@Bouledeneige

The earth is definitely flat.

Not much of a professional hit if it could've been foiled by simply wearing a seatbelt. That was hubris more like.

In truth the only one I might believe is MM.

The earth is definitely flat.

So do you think the moon, sun and all the planets are also flat or just the Earth? (Genuinely interested)

MiddleEasternMummy · 08/12/2021 08:32

@EIIa

I don’t believe for a minute that Jeffrey Epstein is dead

With all his cash and connections and, let’s not forget, gislaines fathers own death was very shady...

I think he was knocked out by security guards so that he wouldn’t move

Then stretchered out

Vvv odd that you could see his face when his body was being removed

There’s no way he’s dead

Sounds very plausible. I've changed my conspiracy theory to this 😂
LookslovelyinSpringtime · 08/12/2021 08:35

What astonishes me is how many people just believe what they hear in the media and never question anything. The media is manipulating public opinion in very insidious ways. We have an education system that encourages compliance and no longer encourages independent thinking .

The increase in social media has created a herd mentality where everyone feels the need to compete and conform for attention, likes, acceptability. We listen to you tube and vlogs and scroll through Instagram for entertainment. The massive risk in anxiety and depression is partly a result of a move away from authenticity towards mass brainwashing.

People repeat phrases like ‘double jabbed’ as if they are an effective modern day mantra. It’s a sort of voodoo invented by the media to keep us all hypnotised.

PeggyTheDragon · 08/12/2021 08:38

The Bilderberg Group controlling global politics from behind the scenes, spread across political parties and large businesses but all with similar goals.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/02/bilderberg-secretive-conference-eric-www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/02/bilderberg-secretive-conference-eric-schmidt

I think COVID was from the lab and there has been a massive cover up

peachescariad · 08/12/2021 08:39

Heard this one....Diana was pregnant with Dodi's child so the future King (William) would have an Egyptian half brother/sister...

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 08/12/2021 08:49

@peachescariad

Heard this one....Diana was pregnant with Dodi's child so the future King (William) would have an Egyptian half brother/sister...
Yep totally believe this one- an Arab half sibling wouldn’t have gone down well with the monarchy
GreenClock · 08/12/2021 08:57

Whacky conspiracy theorists harm no one, but Holocaust denial is on a different level. Horrible.

Swirlywoo · 08/12/2021 09:02

Diana's close friend stated she wasn't pregnant. Also hadn't they only just started dating? The Diana conspiracy is not likely, whatever people want to believe. She wasn't wearing a seatbelt and her driver was drunk. She was also surrounded by paramedics when a pp suggests she was supposedly 'offed'.

LookslovelyinSpringtime · 08/12/2021 09:03

I believe Covid was deliberately created and released to cause societal breakdown and economic ruin. It has already caused a lot of dissent and finger pointing . Skyrocketing rates of depression , illnesses not being diagnosed or treated. Isolation, job losses and a breakdown of relationships. It has also engendered a lot of fear and unthinking compliance as a result.
People at being conditioned to give away personal data and their human bodily autonomy out of fear.

The deaths are only one factor, awful though they are.

notimagain · 08/12/2021 09:11

@dropitlikeitsloth

So do you think the moon, sun and all the planets are also flat or just the Earth? (Genuinely interested)

Don’t go there..it won’t end well Grin

Given (well up until a couple of years back) these days a very large number of people have flown on Longhaul flights I’m amazed how the flat -earth theory still holds some in it’s grasp

observable phenomenon such as:

“Sun not set yet”( flying west bound):
“that was a short day” (eastbound)
“Moon upside down and stars different (north /south hemisphere)

All either ignored or supposedly explained by the Earth being flattish with a hint of a slope in selected places and a bit of a cylinder in others…

TBF for a while there was a long haul pilot at a European airline who achieved some fame/notoriety on the internet by claiming to be a flat earthier of sorts…not sure they really believed what they were peddling but it was good for their likes/profile…

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/12/2021 09:14

AlbertBridge

“I can't believe it's a coincidence that COVID started in Wuhan, a town with a virus research centre.“

Has crossed my mind. Can’t believe it was deliberate, though. Incompetence more likely.

ILoveYou3000 · 08/12/2021 09:16

@MissGiwi

May I ask what is to be gained from claiming the earth is round, if it is indeed flat like you say? Also, when did the initial conspiracy to deceive the whole world into thinking the earth is a sphere come about? And again, why?

Before you tell me to do my own research, I genuinely don't have the time currently but am quite fascinated by your assertion.

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/12/2021 09:17

looks

I'm.with u on what you said.

Covid has become a " buzzword " where no questions can be asked and those who do are given lables like conspiracy theorists and anti vaccers designed to shut them up and create a sense of madness not to be believed.

Meanwhile the public are being primed fir acceptance of the lack.of freedoms, divulging confidential medical.onfo to compete strangers and to be far nore prominent online than ever before.

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/12/2021 09:20

And it's been a perfect way to shirk responsibility for poor governmental decisions and the economy collapse. Its our fault for going to tesco and breathing. Not a lack.of investment in.jealthcare ir education or keeping the high street going

loveandkindness · 08/12/2021 09:26

@LookslovelyinSpringtime

What astonishes me is how many people just believe what they hear in the media and never question anything. The media is manipulating public opinion in very insidious ways. We have an education system that encourages compliance and no longer encourages independent thinking .

The increase in social media has created a herd mentality where everyone feels the need to compete and conform for attention, likes, acceptability. We listen to you tube and vlogs and scroll through Instagram for entertainment. The massive risk in anxiety and depression is partly a result of a move away from authenticity towards mass brainwashing.

People repeat phrases like ‘double jabbed’ as if they are an effective modern day mantra. It’s a sort of voodoo invented by the media to keep us all hypnotised.

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Negligee · 08/12/2021 09:34

What astonishes me is how many people just believe what they hear in the media and never question anything. The media is manipulating public opinion in very insidious ways. We have an education system that encourages compliance and no longer encourages independent thinking

What astonishes me far more than is that some people think that watching Karreaazy Kyle's Youtube frothings about half-Arab royals and Bill Gates poisoning wells constitutes 'research' and evidence of 'independent thinking'.

ZimZamZoom · 08/12/2021 09:37

I fully believe we are living in a simulation

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

SugarlumpsesBumpses · 08/12/2021 09:40

@User13490358923 Are you involved in cryptocurrency? I think your post is really interesting and if there isn't one already, you should perhaps start a separate thread re this.

dropitlikeitsloth · 08/12/2021 09:46

@User13490358923 The first thing I thought about the Metaverse was that the super rich would buy up all the virtual assets and properties.

loveandkindness · 08/12/2021 09:46

Dandelions are not weeds.

They're from the same family as sunflowers. One cup of dandelion greens = 535% of your daily vitamin k and 112% of your daily vitamin A intake.

Every part of a dandelion is edible. Up until the 1800s people would remove grass and plant dandelions.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 08/12/2021 09:57

So unless she was murdered in hospital, in front of several witnesses including the medics fighting to save her, and despite already being technically dead, I can't understand for the life of me how this theory has come about.

You really don’t think somebody could have slipped her a pill or added something to a legitimate medication? No need for a gun or anything dramatic. If the RF had gone to all the trouble of engineering the crash, it would be very easy to kill somebody – and not be suspected when that person’s life was already seriously in jeopardy. Also, HCPs are people just like anybody else and some people are willing to do terrible things. I don’t know any of the team present that day and I’m not in the least accusing them of anything, but it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility in such a scenario for somebody to be corruptible. Not even that, necessarily, if they had insisted that her ‘personal doctor’ needed a minute alone with her.

I don't see why finding the passport of a person who was on a plane, who would undoubtedly have had their passport with them, near the crash site is so extraordinary? All sorts of things do survive an event like that.

Was a pretty much intact paper passport not found in the wreckage of incinerated metal? Is that really likely? Even if it were, it’s an extremely convenient Scooby Doo-type ‘clue’ for a criminal to have kindly left behind.

There’s a theory that JFK was shot by one of the people protecting him by accident. I can’t remember the documentary but it was very convincing!

As with the Titanic and the powerful opponents of the establishing of the Federal Reserve who died on it, JFK had angered a lot of bankers by issuing Executive Order 11110, which had the potential to do a huge amount of damage to their whole system and multi-billion profits.

When a thread contains Holocaust denial (I’m not quoting the post, because that kind of rubbish shouldn’t be repeated - ever), it rather proves how dangerous conspiracy theories are.

Sorry, but that is completely false logic. Plenty of threads of all kinds have people saying crazy/ridiculous/deeply offensive things on them – and that’s exactly what the MNHQ delete function is for. Do you really think it dangerous for people to question official accounts on everything - including even something like the shadow cabinet challenging the motives and honesty of the governing party - just because one person decides to hijack a discussion and make outrageous and offensive claims?

Jill Dando was killed by the Serb government in response to our previous bombing of a Serb TV station in which one of their presenters died. I’m sure of it. It makes more sense than that some random executed a rapid, accurate shooting and vanished

I believe it very likely that Barry George was framed from the start. Jill herself was harmless and, I think, very well-intentioned, but she had friends and colleagues who may have been involved in seriously dark things. I heard a suggestion that she was about to raise concerns, which would have indirectly shone light on these people and their goings-on. Why do you think so many people knew what Savile was up to, but never dared to go public about it – including one particular person who has made it her life’s legacy to campaign for the protection of children? Maybe one or two people did do exactly that and met ‘unfortunate’ circumstances very shortly after. There were also theories that Mike Smith and Rik Mayall’s deaths could have been connected with their raising issues that powerful people didn’t want raised.

Can I say, as I say to incoming first year undergraduates every year, that ‘doing your research’ and ‘random Googling’ are not synonyms?

That is very true – BUT, equally, there does exist a certain snobbery around information discovered and shared online. Some people will still dismissively say “Oh, is that something you read on the internet ?!” regardless of the credibility of the source on the world’s main platform for sharing knowledge and information. You hear people scoff at those worried about their health who have “consulted Dr Google, have you?” – even though the information they have researched may have all come from the NHS website and similar.

scaevola · 08/12/2021 10:08

That the Stephen Curtis helicopter crash of 2004 was a Russian hit.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/death-sunderland-lawyer-stephen-curtis-14408339

The idea that the Russians wouldn't carry out assassinations abroad doesn't seem to hold up in light of subsequent events, and it is entirely plausible that they could bring down an airframe in a non-obvious way

loveandkindness · 08/12/2021 10:16

@PermanentTemporary

I will concede that though I don't think Covid was a lab escape, I would be less surprised by some evidence showing that was the case than by 'evidence' that is never going to happen about 9/11.
Regarding 911, I read somewhere that they found the terrorists passports and papers in the raging inferno but they couldn't find the plane's black box.
scaevola · 08/12/2021 10:17

@Onehotmess

There’s a theory that JFK was shot by one of the people protecting him by accident. I can’t remember the documentary but it was very convincing!
I think that sort of cover up is a metric fuck tonne more likely than a deliberate conspiracy from the off.

But on the RF, I dont buy "Not even that, necessarily, if they had insisted that her ‘personal doctor’ needed a minute alone with her" as she wasn't in Britain and wouldn't have a personal doctor in Paris