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Emma Tustin is a murderer

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DueyCheatemAndHow · 02/12/2021 16:18

Finally. We can say it.

I've just utterly broken down for Arthur.

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Naughtynovembertree · 02/12/2021 21:42

Maitre no.

At least five family and a teacher did report it to great cost to themselves.

Family of the house next door have also claimed on fb they reported it, the adult children of the neighbours.

How many people need to report it for god sake. How many people???

Tryagainplease · 02/12/2021 21:43

I know this has been said so much but this case has really distressed me. I tried to avoid reading about it but I switched the TV on and there he was. I couldn’t not watch and I wailed when I saw that video. It was fucking horrible. I can’t comprehend how someone could do that.

Butternutsqoosh · 02/12/2021 21:45

Cried my eyes out when I watched this on the news tonight

Lifeisaminestrone · 02/12/2021 21:47

While it won’t make a difference to that little boy’s life, someone told me they will be making a donation to a children’s protection charity for Christmas to remember him by. I plan to do similar.

While it won’t reduce my sadness for Arthur’s treatment, there is a chance it may help make a tiny difference to a future child’s life.

Unsurprisingly, a number of people seem to be affected by this, and I thought would share as may be something they hadn’t thought of themselves.

Yankey812 · 02/12/2021 21:47

Usually they just say causing or allowing the death of a child or something.

lollipoprainbow · 02/12/2021 21:47

We need well funded public services, we haven't got these, so the vulnerable pay the price.”

Crap nothing to do with funding more to do with wishy washy totally incompetent social workers. All the money in the world won't change that.

Seasidemumma77 · 02/12/2021 21:48

Would happily take an increase in tax if it was guaranteed to go directly to increasing the number of social workers in every area, and to ensuring that every social worker has a manageable work load.

October2020 · 02/12/2021 21:52

@Naughtynovembertree why don't you read it?

DueyCheatemAndHow · 02/12/2021 21:53

Today on the news a couple have been found guilty over physical abuse of their baby. Amina was 8 weeks old. She died with over 60 fractured bones.

A man is also in court over the death of his partner's 3 year old.

It's every day. I feel such overwhelming sadness.

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 02/12/2021 21:53

@Naughtynovembertree

I don't deny or refute that social care and anything to do with children needs more funding but please!!

Sw did go to the house! They didn't examin him properly, they only saw his back and not the shoulder they were shocked in court when they saw the pic!
That's not a funding issue it's an incompetence issue!
They had the time to speak to Arthur and they did so with tustin child present.

The police had the time and resources to go to the house (reluctantly) and they said it was spotless and could find no issues. They reluctantly received the photos from the uncle and he didn't hear again except to say they would be charged if they went around.

Incompetent, stupid and lazy.

Not bloody funding!!

Of course it's to do with funding. When you are constantly rushed, constantly overwhelmed with workload, you cannot do your job properly. As a PP has said, you either become numb to it, or you leave.

How would you feel if, day after day, month after month, you had to live with doing a half-arsed job for vulnerable kids because you didn't have the time or resource to look after them properly?

If you ask people to do an impossible job that takes a massive emotional toll on them, they will start to behave in inappropriate ways, to protect themselves psychologically, or they will leave. Either way, kids lose out.

I'm not a SW. Social workers drive me nuts a lot of the time (I"m an HCP), but it is an impossibly hard, thankless, overloaded job. If you think you can do better, what's stopping you? Seriously - there are posts available at all levels in social services, and they need a wide range of skill sets. But you won't, will you? And you won't write to your MP about social services' funding or in fact do anything actually to make things better. Because it's so much easier to be a keyboard warrior than actually to help.

WingBingo · 02/12/2021 21:55

This is awful and the saddest thing I have ever read. I couldn’t get to the end of the BBC article.

It’s going to stay with me. RIP Arthur.

claire20585 · 02/12/2021 21:56

She has 4 children, the oldest 2 were removed permanently and the way she spoke to them in the street before she tried to kill herself was absolutely vile. She later had 2 more that she was allowed to keep.

Mufasa1118 · 02/12/2021 21:57

I was just thinking of all the posts I've seen on mumsnet saying:

I regret having children
I hate having children
I dont like my stepchildren.
I hate every minute of being a mother

Yes some people are just abusive assholes, but also a lot of people simply struggle with raising children as they don't have enough support, and that leads to them not being a good parent. It is a wider societal problem. Maybe we also need to look at providing more support to people with children, like in the Scandinavian countries.

Onceuponatimethen · 02/12/2021 21:58

@claire20585 that is so sad.

Mufasa1118 · 02/12/2021 21:58

It is such a bad case. Even just being on this thread has made me feel awful.
We are all connected, so what was done to Arthur was done to us all.
We can all feel his pain

Brainwave89 · 02/12/2021 21:59

Both these parents will now be in prison for a very long time. having caused such emotional and physical distress to a small child over a prolonged period, many of their fellow prisoners are going to be very very angry. I hope their lives are hell. With any justice neither will ever see the outside world again…one way or another.

CurryandSnuggle · 02/12/2021 21:59

@Tryagainplease I did the same, all week this has been harrowing, I can’t stop thinking about it. I wish I could unsee it to be honest. We’ll really I wish none of it ever happened. Darling boy.

SallyWD · 02/12/2021 21:59

This case has made me feel physically sick so many times. I don't know how to get it out of my head. It's just utterly devastating. There are no words. How could they do it, watch him suffer, in pain and fear?

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SunscreenCentral · 02/12/2021 22:01

I just can't and won't read or watch the details of this tragedy. Even reading all of your comments here has me in bits.

Is there anything to be said for writing to Carrie Johnson? All of us. Every single one.
She's the mother of a cute little boy and maybe she has some bit of influence because tbqh until social workers are paid and supported adequately, this is just going to keep happening.

Mufasa1118 · 02/12/2021 22:01

Emma Tustin is pretty isn't she. The father was obviously thinking with his dick.

LakieLady · 02/12/2021 22:01

@MrsPsmalls

Anyone intelligent, resourceful and having undergone several years training, can work as a social worker for the super salary of £25k rising after several years to to an amazing £32k. For that you can work with societies most abused children, most evil parents and face the constant vitriol of the public. You also get to work any number of extra hours for free. Any takers?
Not to mention all the threats and abuse you get from the very families you're trying to help.

I know 5 people who are qualified social workers and worked in child protection. Not one of them stuck the job for more than 5 years.

One is now a social work trainer, but the other 4 are in non-social work jobs. The younger ones are still paying back the student loans they had to get to do their social work degrees though.

Tryagainplease · 02/12/2021 22:01

@Mufasa1118

It is such a bad case. Even just being on this thread has made me feel awful. We are all connected, so what was done to Arthur was done to us all. We can all feel his pain
Absolutely spot on
TuesdayRuby · 02/12/2021 22:01

One of the most haunting cases I’ve ever read. Literally hurts my heart when I think about it.
I hate reading people say “now he’s at peace”.. he’s 6 years old, he shouldn’t be resting in peace, he should be out on his bike or playing with cars in his room or getting ice cream from the shop. It’s just all so fucking sad and unfair and a waste of a beautiful young life. How on earth can this stuff keep happening? Sad

I can only hope the monsters who treated him like this get what’s coming to them.

Mufasa1118 · 02/12/2021 22:03

If two children were taken off her because she was mentally ill, why would they let another child be in her care. Especially if social services were then called on her about the last child!

Surely social services can be sued for those failings alone.

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