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Family blacklists do you have them?

301 replies

Bearnecessity · 12/11/2021 18:40

We do....got Zenith car insurance, Barclays Bank on ours...

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Bearnecessity · 13/11/2021 20:06

iamo that is crap indeed...hopefully you went on to deservedly better things.

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Hawkins001 · 13/11/2021 20:08

@Winniemarysarah

Eon The British heart foundation PETA
Why the British heart ?
HeronLanyon · 13/11/2021 20:20

hotmeaty us too ITV very frowned on. I used to cycle home from school at lunchtime (no cycle helmet obvs), let myself in, make lunch sometimes using gas cooker, and settle down to Thames Tv - The Sullivans. Sometimes then not returning to school for the afternoon maybe going for a swim with friends in the river (Thames) - 1970s.
If my lovely old Ma were alive to read that she would frown hardest at the ITV bit - no question.

SanFranBear · 13/11/2021 20:27

To be honest I have no idea. My parents were pretty opinionated about a lot of things. It would ironic is we were merrily blacklisting the wrong company!

Sadly, you have been boycotting the wrong company - the baby milk scandal is Nestle which is why I've been boycotting them for over 25 years. They haven't learned their lesson and have continued to be fucking arseholes and have done some really evil things. Diabolical company (and boy, do I miss Toffee Crisps soooo much!)

www.zmescience.com/science/nestle-company-pollution-children/

BonnesVacances · 13/11/2021 20:42

Loads Grin

Vodafone. Absolute lying bastards.
Curry's. Would rather go without than shop there. Appalling after sales service.
Nestlé (& associated companies) and Cadburys. Vote with your feet.
Warburtons and Dyson. Brexit shaggers and Tory supporters.

There will be more...

BonnesVacances · 13/11/2021 20:58

More...

RSPCA. Because old ladies give them oodles of money thinking they're saving animals.
Ryanair. I'd rather not go anywhere than give them a penny.
Virgin Media. Had to take them to the ombudsman for failure to provide us with a telephone line whilst still making us pay for it.
The Sun & Sky. Anything connected with Murdoch is banned in our house.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 13/11/2021 22:15

Baffled by this one. I used to work somewhere where gift vouchers had printed on them very clearly, that they couldn't be used after expiry, and no change would be given. But people wanted to use them after expiry, and wanted change to be given.

Why is your failure to book something in good time, the fault of the retailer?

The fault is in the retailer having the audacity to put an expiry date on there in the first place. You’ve (or the giver has) pre-paid – and effectively loaned them your money – and then they just decide they aren’t going to repay it, and will keep it for themselves.

Yes, maybe people will say “they tell you there’s an expiry date” (even though they often don’t clearly spell this out to you – and even if they do, the whole design of their product is that they know the purchaser and user are likely to be different people) – but people are busy and don’t necessarily realise that something that is effectively cash in their pockets will be randomly taken away from them after an arbitrary date. A voucher is basically an IOU – a kind of debt, you could say – and it’s shoddy in the extreme to say that, after as little as 12 months, you’re going to renege on it. Even the Bank of England, when they withdraw notes from general circulation, always have a way for you to get your money back after any length of time.

National Book Tokens don’t seem to have a problem with the concept of a customer pre-paying for their purchases – their cards expire after 8 years (not 1 or 2) – and even after that, you can contact them for a replacement. You’d be far better giving book tokens or even just ‘Bank of England gift vouchers’, but a huge part of the gift card industry is selling the idea that they’re a really thoughtful gift, when all it’s doing is limiting what the recipient can spend their money on and for how long; it’s really a way of them asking you for a loan but dressing it up like they are doing you a favour.

The big shops actually build it into their profit projections, based on the expected proportion of people who will never use the card (or leave some value on it), at whose expense (and often disappointment) they expect to benefit. It’s not enough for them to have already taken in trust a customer’s guarantee that the recipient will spend the money with them and nobody else – or that a card not used for years will already lose the holder some value because of inflation - both already a big advantage for them.

It’s one of those things that most people now just accept as the norm without actually stopping to think about it. Nobody would ever in a million years stoically accept it if a (so-called) friend borrowed money from them, managed to avoid repaying it for a year or two and then simply claimed the loan had ‘expired’ and been written off their balance sheet.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 13/11/2021 22:33

Timpsons because in 2008-9 there was a really sleazy customer assistant who would always try and flirt with me.

With this one, I'd have complained to the branch but not hold it against Timpsons as a whole. As far as multi-millionaire businessmen go, Sir John Timpson always seems to me to be one of the very few good guys.

They willingly spearhead policies that cost them money - that other big companies stay very quiet about - but which will benefit their staff, such as the recent one promising to pay for HRT prescriptions for employees.

They don't use clever accounting to avoid or minimise the tax they pay - they happily pay their fair share as levied by the government.

At a huge risk to themselves, they have a deliberate policy of employing ex-prisoners and other 'less desirable' members of society that most employers wouldn't touch with a bargepole and helping to rehabilitate them into valuable, useful, proud members of society rather than leaving them unemployable and with little choice but to stay as career criminals, with everybody losing out as a result. This will of course statistically increase the overall probability of 'issues' with the behaviour of their staff - as opposed to those from the historically law-abiding pool - but as long as individual problems are dealt with decisively when they occur, I think it's very much for the greater good of everybody in society not to just leave low-level criminals to their own devices - without good, legal opportunities to financially support themselves - on release from prison.

Ryanair - Michael O'Leary is not nice and his personality pervades the business. I once saw them charging 1kg excess luggage to a man because his case weighed 1kg but his wife's case was 1kg under the limit.

I haven't flown anywhere in over 20 years, but even if I did, I'd never be tempted by their seductively low (headline) prices. BUT, why ever did the couple not make a big display of swapping 1kg of luggage from his case to hers and make the absurdity very clear to all present?

JudgeJ · 14/11/2021 00:50

@StrongerOrWeaker

VW Bensons for bed B&q Lufthansa BA If I could avoid dealing with the nhs and my kids school I would too 😂
Not keen on Lufthansa either. Years ago we were due to collect a friend's son from school on Saturday morning and put him on a late afternoon flight, we had the ticket issued by Lufthansa in Germany. Because of some problems at the airport we rang them late Friday afternoon to be told that 'you can't have a ticket for that flight, there is no late afternoon flight, just the lunchtime one and he's on that list'! Cue phone calls to school and a mad dash across the Pennines to get him. They were totally unapologetic when our friends, obviously angry, went in their local office later in the week.
JudgeJ · 14/11/2021 01:07

@NeverDropYourMoonCup

Curry's after they pointedly blanked me in favour of men when I was there to buy a whole kitchen's worth of appliances.

It's been 21 years so far.

PC World, same group of companies, spoke only to my late OH when we went to look at some new stuff we wanted but the laugh was on them, he was totally, utterly inept with any technology after 1960 but tended to ask inane questions. I walked off to look at something else and left them to it. The next time he walked in they all disappeared, quickly!
JudgeJ · 14/11/2021 01:14

@NormalPlease

KLM - never, and I mean never, had a flight with them where someone’s bags haven’t been lost. Intrigues me because I always thought the baggage handlers were contracted to the airport, not individual airlines, but SOMETHING that KLM do must be behind it as never had it with another airline.

Santander - gave my online banking details to a (thankfully honest) stranger yonks ago

This usually happens returning from the States via Schiphol, it's a tight connection. The last time though it took them three days to get it to us, usually arrives late evening, when I phoned about it not coming the local handlers seemed surprised that quite a few cases were still in their office, found mine and then were going to send it to the totally wrong address.
JudgeJ · 14/11/2021 01:20

@doubleshotcappuccino

Oh and Germany because my dad got a speeding fine there once 40 years ago
Not because they bombed our chippy then? (You need to be old to remember that)
Hen2018 · 14/11/2021 01:27

I keep thinking of more!

Samaritans Purse. Bigoted, homophobic organisation who slip evangelical rubbish into parcels going to non-Christian countries. Multi millionaire, weirdo founder.

My mum boycotted Littlewoods for years because the sleazy cashier looked at her card as she wrote a cheque and said, “thank you... Jean...”

wheresmymojo · 14/11/2021 01:47

All countries where men openly perve and harass other women constantly (e.g. Egypt) or where there are limited rights for women (e.g. UAE)

HSBC - it's been about 20 years and I can't remember what they did Blush

Mercedes - after a horrific experience with Mercedes Benz Finance during the pandemic

wheresmymojo · 14/11/2021 01:58

Next & Dyson - Brexiteers

Welcometothejingles · 14/11/2021 05:08

The bakery near me, I met my friend for a coffee and cake when I suddenly became ill. I sat at a table outside for fresh air, had my head between my knees so obviously looked ill. The waitress came over and said I had to leave because I didn't order any food. She ignored the lattes, cake and sandwiches on the table and just stood there moaning. I just about walked home and haven't been back to the bakery since that day 7 yrs ago. She could see that I was ill and didn't care at all.

garlictwist · 14/11/2021 06:55

I will never use Greenflag Breakdown because they fired me from their call centre when I was a student for something that wasn't my fault and were an absolutely horrible company to work for.

fournonblondes · 14/11/2021 07:11

American Airlines for their terrible customer services.

OhGiveUp · 14/11/2021 07:15

SCS sofa company
The sun newspaper due to Hillsborough.
Starbucks coffee because of their appalling behaviour in 9/11.
Curry's.

I thought it was going to be about family members too, so I was going to say my DH for eating the last spring roll last night from our Chinese takeaway!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/11/2021 08:13

I will never use Greenflag Breakdown because they fired me from their call centre when I was a student for something that wasn't my fault and were an absolutely horrible company to work for.

Britannia Rescue are on our list (don't know if they still exist - I think they joined with/rebranded as LV breakdown assistance) - as, over 20 years ago, my DSis was a member and had to call them out to an exhaust-related breakdown. The garage that they sent did a terrible botch job, leaving her to subsequently break down and become stranded again as a direct result of their efforts; and we later learned that this garage (which also sold fuel), was very well-known locally for watering down their petrol - a real disreputable cowboy outfit.

I've been with the AA for breakdown cover for nearly 25 years, had to call them out on several occasions over that period, and never had any complaints about their service whatsoever. I started out with Green Flag as a student/new driver, but first switched to the AA when I was about to go and live in Europe for a year as part of my language degree course. I called GF and asked if they had any way that I could stay with them and still be covered - still being officially UK-based, but out of the country for an extended period, and they basically told me they couldn't help and that I would have to leave them. The AA have a reciprocal agreement with many of their associated European equivalents - they offered an additional package (with an additional fee - not sure how they work it nowadays) whereby you could phone an English-speaking call centre and they would co-ordinate sending a local patrol in whichever country you had broken down, all included in this extra European plan; however, they informed me that, if you have a reasonable command of the language of the country(ies) you are going to be driving in, you could simply call out the French/German/other 'AA' if needed, give them your UK AA membership details, and they would come out to assist you reciprocally, treating you just as if you were a 'normal' national member of theirs.

sqirrelfriends · 14/11/2021 08:21

Lush-annoying staff and general wokeness while still using palm oil.

Frankie & Bennies and TGI Fridays- both terrible service and awful, awful food.

Aviva car insurance- they auto renewed at 3 times the price without sending me an email to confirm what it would be. Luckily I had already found another insurer and was shocked at the price when I rang up to cancel. They did match the price and even lowered it but I declined as I didn't want to do business with a company that tried to trick its customers.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/11/2021 08:36

I'm another who would never touch Vodafone again. I signed up with them for mobile broadband, many years ago, and learned that I'd been rejected for failing the credit check. They wouldn't tell me why and told me I needed to sign up with Experian and pay them £12, to see what the problem was. It turned out that their bumbling assistant had taken my name down wrongly and thus, there was no credit record for that name at my address, because that person, with that name, didn't exist. I'd given them my initial - clearly saying what name it stood for - and they'd taken it down, slightly misheard, as if it were my actual name - think "It's K Smith - K for Karen" or "L Jones - L for Laura" and them ignoring the further info and entering it on their computer as 'Kay Smith' or 'Elle Jones'. £12 wasted, two pointless trips into town to their shop and a lot of worry about fraud and identity theft - and they couldn't care less, didn't admit it as their fault, claimed I must have somehow given them this random other non-existent (at my address anyway) name as if it were my name.

As others have said, I don't hold mistakes against companies - it's their response and willingness (or not) to own and deal with their mistake that makes all the difference to me.

Prior to that, I'd had (fixed) broadband with Virgin, which stopped working, in spite of several calls to them - and this went on for years, paying them for a non-existent service, which they refused to acknowledge their responsibility for or properly look into, whilst still happily taking our money each month for all of that time. I know I shouldn't have stood for it and kept paying for so long, but big things were going on in my life over that extended time period - much higher priority than trying to make some shoddy company care about their non-existent fixed broadband provision and stop fobbing me off without action.

We're now with an ISP who automatically monitor the connection stability themselves, every second, and will text ME if it goes down for any reason - say if there's been a power cut - and want to resolve it if I have cause to contact them about an issue.

No way I'd ever choose to go with one of the big-name companies for it again - they'll happily boast about an average customer approval rating of 4.5 stars, not caring that that actually means that a full 10% of their customers wouldn't rate or recommend them. Companies should aim to delight their customers and meet/exceed their expectations (I know you'll always get the unreasonable ones and the serial petty complainers) - not consider 'just about content enough to not bother leaving us' as their standard for customer service.

Benjispruce5 · 14/11/2021 08:41

I had awful customer service initially from Vodafone with buying and setting up my DD’s mobile account but I have to say the customer service resolution was really good .

Thisbastardcomputer · 14/11/2021 08:53

Perry's garage in Rotherham for selling two cars to my mum who had dementia, even after we had been in to see them and explained the situation. They knew her well, she'd bought cars and had them serviced there for 25 years.

Vodafone, Npower, Hobbs.

BonnesVacances · 14/11/2021 08:57

My Vodafone story is that I phoned to cancel my mobile contract. They offered me a new deal which was cheaper than I was paying. I took it. They put me on a higher tariff. They would not accept I'd been offered the lower price. Even though no person on earth would be persuaded to stay by agreeing to a higher tariff. They even claimed they had a phone recording where I accepted the higher tariff. Lying bastards. Admin mistakes I can accept, outright lying I cannot. Despicable behaviour. Angry The ombudsman ruled in my favour and I also got compensation for the hours I spent trying to sort it out.