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Covid, twatty DH and how my life has been destroyed

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Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 08:30

I had a bad pregnancy and was off sick for ages, then on maternity, ended up getting managed out (aka got rid of) because I needed more time off due to my health. I had surgery to fix some issues. DC was approaching two when I felt recovered enough to get a new job. Everything was lined up.

Then Covid happened. Nurseries were closed. Family childcare was unavailable. Someone had to stay at home with DC. Of course in the 2.5 years since I got pregnant, DH had been promoted. So his logic was that we needed to keep his stable well paid job in preference to me starting a new, lower paid job with no security. So I had to give up my job offer and ended up bearing the burden of childcare through repeated lockdowns.

Finally nurseries reopened - but due to the pandemic, places were in short supply. My job offer was long gone. Employers still had staff on furlough and working from home, their finances were tight, so they were cautious about hiring. At this point I’d been out of work for over 3 years. DH got promoted again.

This was the point at which the problems started. DH started to whinge that everything was still volatile, bubbles were bursting and kids were having to isolate, so someone needed to be available to look after DC. And of course he was so important now, he couldn’t possibly do it.

I got a job and arranged a childminder for pick ups and drop offs. Childminder got Covid so DC had to isolate for 10 days, my new employer was not pleased. Then DC got chickenpox so that was more time off work. Covid at nursery again, more time off - and I got fired because I wasn’t able to attend work reliably. During this time DH wouldn’t take a single day off work. This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

Of course I’m never going to catch up with him now because I’m four years behind career-wise. So that basically means all childcare has been dumped on me. And if all the childcare is on me I’m never going to be able to catch up am I?

So let’s skip past the fact that I’m angry, resentful, hate DH and often go to bed at 8pm to avoid him. Someone has to parent my DC so I’m currently looking for a job that can fit around that and offer flexibility for sick days. My previous career won’t. So I asked DH to help me assess my options and figure out what I could do that would suit our current circumstances. He was really nasty and said no, it’s not his responsibility to sort out a job for me, he can’t tell me what to do. I said fine - fuck it, I’ll just go back to my career then and you’ll have to deal with the fallout in terms of childcare. Of course he’s not happy with that either, I’m a nasty selfish bitch, and he doesn’t deserve that when he’s working hard to provide for us all.

Honestly, what am I supposed to do here? I have more chance of holding down a job now that the 10 day isolation is no longer required for close contacts. But I’m just getting zero help. He’s staying later and later at work, he’s gone from finishing at 5, to 6, and now he isn’t leaving the office till 6.30. So that puts all of the cooking on my shoulders too because he isn’t home in time. And now he’s refusing to do any grocery shopping or meal planning because I’ll be cooking so apparently I need to sort it, he’s already doing his share by working.

Honestly I’m on the verge of divorcing him to force him to take 50% custody. I agreed to have a baby because we earned the same and would both work and share childcare. I didn’t sign up to be stuck with the whole lot and unable to work full-time just because he earns more.

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LittleBearPad · 28/10/2021 10:02

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I'm usually on the womans side but quite honestly I think you are being ridiculous. These are unusual times, they are not normal, an employer can't be expected to keep people on who are constantly off sick and then off with the kids. I'd have given my eye teeth to be at hone with my DS but it was not an option as I was a single parent. Surely it won't be long before DC goes to school and then you can start to resume a normal life. Quite honestly I can't see how hard it is to manage one child on your own and a bit of cooking and cleaning, you get the benefit of looking after your own child, your husband manages the financial burden. I had to do all of these things on my own. So you have a few years off! It isn't going to ruin your life. Your husband must be properly pissed off to have such a miserable spouse.
You are massively missing the point.

And either your children had extraordinary immune systems to never need you to stay home to look after them with chicken pox etc or you had alternative family support so you didn’t have to take the day off when they were ill. Something the OP doesn’t have

DameMaureen · 28/10/2021 10:02

@MajesticallyAwkward she does sound pathetic about wanting ideas for training courses etc but then maybe I am a very independent person . The "mighty man " brings the bread home right now so his SHARE is that while HER SHARE is looking after food , house etc . It's called teamwork . IF my H was out working all day I would not expect him to come home and cook dinner etc as we are a team.

AmandaHoldensLips · 28/10/2021 10:02

You can buy back any missing state pension gaps - and start paying into a private pension. Even a small amount is better than nothing.

If you are degree-level educated, you can retrain into a different field which might give you more flexibility. e.g teaching, consulting, whatever.

I lost my job while pregnant and ended up setting up my own company.

If your DH is unwilling to be an equal partner sharing equal responsibilities then you might want to rethink the marriage. These feelings of resentment only get worse.

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ancientgran · 28/10/2021 10:02

@Maiasaur

no doubt your pension is suffering (is he making contributions for you) No. I haven’t even worked enough years to get a state pension and I’m worried I’m not going to have the opportunity to.

So this whole "he's too important to sink to house help" is utter bullshit
He works with men who don’t have kids or who have a housewife. He works for rich men whose wives can afford nannies. He feels he can’t possibly take time off for childcare because they’ll be angry and critical. I agree that they’ll be angry - they were furious when I was pregnant and he couldn’t pin down exactly what dates he’d be off on paternity leave because it was impossible to say what date I’d go into labour. They wanted him to book me a c section so the date could be guaranteed! The difference is, while he thinks he should avoid making them angry, I think he should claim his legal rights and fuck them if they’re angry.

I know it isn't worth claiming child benefit with your husband's salary but you can protect your state pension. I think there is a form online but basically your credited if you are home with a little one. If you haven't done that it would be worth sorting it out, not sure if they will back date it.
Sunshinegirl82 · 28/10/2021 10:03

In the nicest possible way it feels as though you are waiting for your DH to have some sort of epiphany and recognise he's being a selfish arse. I understand why but I don't think it's likely to happen anytime soon. That's shit and unfair but it's the reality of the situation.

Accept you can't change him, he won't step up and you can't make him. What can you do to change things that don't involve him. I think you need to stop wasting your energy fighting a losing battle with him and redirect it to things that could actually make a difference.

Newrunner29 · 28/10/2021 10:05

@Maiasaur

What is the salary difference here, OP? He earns £70k. Before I got pregnant I earned £22k and he earned £28k. He has been promoted massively, especially during the pandemic when a couple of senior staff died and others retired or had to shield. He was one of the only staff not on furlough and was pretty much running his side of the business. It’s not just that I’ve lost four years of work experience - he’s had massive opportunities and I can’t possibly catch up.
Im not sure why there needs to he a catch up of salaries, marriage is a partnership not a competition, yes ur husband sounds unkind with what he says but ur hardly kind the way u speak about him so i doubt its all on him. My husband earns well 5 times what i get , ive had to give up work to be a parent carer for our disabled daughter there was no question about weather we should share care, he is main breadwinner so i take role and my carer suffers and no idea when i can go back if can. U seem super annoyed he has worked hard and been promoted which seems crazy, i think u should divorce but not nessassry for benefit of just u
DameMaureen · 28/10/2021 10:05

@ancientgran is right . You are credited with these years while you claim Child Benefit up to the age of 12 .

50ShadesOfCatholic · 28/10/2021 10:07

[quote DameMaureen]@MajesticallyAwkward she does sound pathetic about wanting ideas for training courses etc but then maybe I am a very independent person . The "mighty man " brings the bread home right now so his SHARE is that while HER SHARE is looking after food , house etc . It's called teamwork . IF my H was out working all day I would not expect him to come home and cook dinner etc as we are a team.[/quote]
I don't think it is "pathetic" to expect a partner to be involved with big decisions or at least show interest. It is literally the point of being a couple.

femfemlicious · 28/10/2021 10:08

@Maiasaur i notice you dont respond to anyone saying get paid help in. You are fixated with him taking time off. Possibly you want his career to slow down so you can catch up?. If you get a job tgen you would be earning almost 100k combibed? Thats enough to afford an au pair?

Cantthinkofaname21 · 28/10/2021 10:09

^^This is when he started to say “we can’t put the job of the highest earner at risk, when you earn the same as me I’ll take equal responsibility for DC”.

This statement alone would have me asking him to leave!! My husband earns more than me (a lot more) BUT we equally choose to have children and for me to start work early so I can do the pick ups means he has to do the drop off. It needs to shared regardless of who earns more!!
Don’t get me wrong my husband hid during lockdown in his office door closed and I got close to loosing it struggling homeschooling & working! But we soon sorted it and out a plan together - your not working as a family unit he is being selfish.

femfemlicious · 28/10/2021 10:11

@Newrunner29 thats exactly what im getting here. OP is annoyed that her husband has gone much further in her career than she is at the moment. Because they were at the same stage when she got pregnant.

Sammiekim · 28/10/2021 10:12

If you divorce him he has to take more responsibility of your dc. Then you can finally take back your life. Do it op. He is never going to accommodate to you when he has it so cushty. You'll be condemning your life to that of childcare since he has made it clear he isnt willing to give it up or put you first.

Also I dont know what your situation is but if you ever accidentally (or purposefully) get pregnant with him again that will be a life sentence to this. You will be enslaved. A partner should be supporting your wants and needs. When I had my baby my partner and family all supported to try and help me get independence and a sole income again. Does he expect you to just sit back and happily rely on him at your own expense? Sounds like abit of a power trip.

What if he divorced you tomorrow op? Over than half his pension and house money you'd be on your feet with no job. Dont put yourself in that vulnerable position. Best to sort yourself out now, get a job lined up, then divorce him.

Maiasaur · 28/10/2021 10:12

Make sure that when you agree access etc, your DH is under no illusion that on his time, childcare is his responsibility etc
I already know what will happen. He’ll organise god knows what with god knows who, so he can work. My DC will be dumped with whoever. I’ll feel guilty and make myself available so my DC is at least being parented. And he’ll make sure that happens by choosing the shittiest childcare option that he knows I won’t be happy with.

He’s admitted as much - when I said he needs to do his fair share, he said “Fine I’ll just shove DC in care and go to work anyway... maybe I’ll take him to my mothers” (his mother who we don’t allow to babysit because she drinks and always has random dodgy boyfriends).

OP posts:
Flixon · 28/10/2021 10:12

do you still have any love left for him ? You do sound very, very angry. With him, yes but also with the situation life has put you in. Is that ALL his fault ?

what about hiring a nanny for a couple if years till the DC are in school - borrow money if you need to so that you CAN get back ion the career ladder?

The way you speak to each other sounds very toxic, your anger is very evident but I'm not 100% convinced this is ALL a relationship issue ....
Could you get a few sessions of therapy for yourself before you blow your life out of the water ?

Okki · 28/10/2021 10:13

@Maiasaur

If he was to take equal time off to you, he may risk his job At this point I care about myself and my own achievements. I don’t care if he loses his job. Maybe he needs to take a lesser job so he can do his share.
I was kind of with your until you said this. I get you're angry - I'm in a similar position. However I'm not silly enough to jeopardise the roof over my head in these uncertain times.

And just going to your point about not having contributed enough for a state pension. You should be registered for child benefit, even if your DH earns too much for you to get it. Your NI contribs are paid for you till your youngest DC is about 12 or so. Can't remember the exact age.

It is very hard living with resentment for whatever reason. You need to find a way to deal with it till you do find a job. Can you give a vague idea of what your background was in? Is it transferable in that perhaps your DH would be amenable to supporting retraining?

I gave up my career to be a trailing spouse. DH also has a big important job blah blah. However our finances are more or less 50/50. I now work very part time in a school (non teaching role) and will up my hours whe. They're available/new job comes up. It is very handy having school holidays off.

The resentment is truly horrible to live with and if you don't find a way to address it, it will eat you up. I reallly feel for you.

ancientgran · 28/10/2021 10:13

I feel sorry for this poor child.

Cornettoninja · 28/10/2021 10:14

@Maiasaur

There's so many things he could be doing to help e.g. agree he'll do all childcare at weekends so she can work then I actually proposed this. He said no, he needs time off at weekends and we don’t need the extra money. I said I want to earn some money of my own. He said ok then he’ll hire me as a nanny and cleaner at the same salary my employer would pay.
Interesting he’s proposing to pay you but not someone else to enable you to work.

Nah, if you can’t leave immediately then you need to start making a plan.

Anonanon1234 · 28/10/2021 10:14

@Maiasaur

There's so many things he could be doing to help e.g. agree he'll do all childcare at weekends so she can work then I actually proposed this. He said no, he needs time off at weekends and we don’t need the extra money. I said I want to earn some money of my own. He said ok then he’ll hire me as a nanny and cleaner at the same salary my employer would pay.
Okay bigger red flag here.

Does he control all money? Do you have access to money?
Could be he is financially abusing you without you realising... Flowers

LittleBearPad · 28/10/2021 10:14

His employers sound atrocious. I presume he works in a family office or similar? But he also sounds rather weak. To have only taken a few days off this year is rather pathetic. He shouldn’t ruin his home life for these people. They won’t show any loyalty to him and will sack him without a thought. He’d be better getting a new job.

Minesnotahighhorse · 28/10/2021 10:15

OP, I can feel your anger scream off the screen and I don’t blame you, I’m furious on your behalf. Whatever his misguided reasoning, your DH’s lack of respect and dismissive treatment of your needs is deeply unpleasant and says a lot about him as a person.

I agree with PP who have said the longer working hours are a choice. I have a very senior job and outearn DH by a fair whack yet I manage to finish work on time so I can be there for young DC dinner and bedtime, even if that means picking up some work later in the evening.
Also agree that the more senior you are, the more control you have over your time and your diary. My PA know there will be occasional childcare issues and shuffles things accordingly. Although it does sound like your DH works for some dinosaurs with a shitty workplace culture. Surely anyone would want out of that, unless of course it gives an excuse to opt out of family responsibilities….

The other thing that has made my blood boil is reading some of the responses here. The notion that a professional woman who obviously gets value and self-worth from working should just put up and accept a situation which could be solved if her DH was willing to compromise or that she should get a job stacking shelves?

I do wonder whether people realise that there is a broader societal benefit from having women in the workplace making decisions that impact us all and our children in the future. Do we really want to go back to a world where there are no female business leaders, judges, doctors, creatives? Do you really not see the positive impact this has had on your life??

userg5647 · 28/10/2021 10:15

Fuck me this thread is depressing. I haven't seen so many antiquated opinions since leaving a military wives Facebook group. The struggle for our daughters, and sons, is going to continue until some of you here really sort yourselves out.

OP your gut is right here, your DH doesn't respect you. You're right to put your foot down and prioritise your own career aspirations and financial security. Please don't be swept up by some of the very old fashioned views here, earning £70k (which doesn't say to me he's insanely senior, it would barely be directorship in public sector) doesn't give him the right to dictate how you live. You are both responsible for your child and own happiness, go back to the drawing board. If he doesn't realise this, you don't have a life partner.

Motnight · 28/10/2021 10:16

He will hire you as a nanny and cleaner???

Clymene · 28/10/2021 10:16

@Maiasaur

Make sure that when you agree access etc, your DH is under no illusion that on his time, childcare is his responsibility etc I already know what will happen. He’ll organise god knows what with god knows who, so he can work. My DC will be dumped with whoever. I’ll feel guilty and make myself available so my DC is at least being parented. And he’ll make sure that happens by choosing the shittiest childcare option that he knows I won’t be happy with.

He’s admitted as much - when I said he needs to do his fair share, he said “Fine I’ll just shove DC in care and go to work anyway... maybe I’ll take him to my mothers” (his mother who we don’t allow to babysit because she drinks and always has random dodgy boyfriends).

What a horrific human being he is.
StormTreader · 28/10/2021 10:18

@Maiasaur

There's so many things he could be doing to help e.g. agree he'll do all childcare at weekends so she can work then I actually proposed this. He said no, he needs time off at weekends and we don’t need the extra money. I said I want to earn some money of my own. He said ok then he’ll hire me as a nanny and cleaner at the same salary my employer would pay.
"And I'll subcontract it straight out to someone who actually chooses to be that, since you know that's not my career. Good, seems we are in agreement then".
Mumoblue · 28/10/2021 10:18

OP this just gets worse with every update. First he offers to hire his own wife as a nanny and cleaner then he says he’ll dump his kid on his mother who drinks?

Run 🏃‍♂️

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