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DD bringing a super-strict Vegan friend for tea tonight

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maddiemookins16mum · 27/10/2021 12:32

Hi all, DD (17) is bringing a pal home for tea (dinner, supper - delete as appropriate 🤣). We are big meat eaters but would never dream of having meat on this occasion. My normally very level headed DD is very keen for ‘us’ to get it ‘right’. So here’s the menu.
Vegan sausage hotpot (browned off Heck vegan chipolatas - made of pea protein so the pack says), I’ve added onions, carrots, tinned toms, garlic, herbs and veggie stock.
Cauliflower cheese
Roast potatoes (they are Aunt Bessies though, as we’re all at work/college until 5-6pm and I’ve no real spuds.
Other veg (peas and broccoli probably).
Pudding - mince pies and custard (Alpro plant based).
Does this sound ok?

OP posts:
LennyAndTheDucks · 27/10/2021 16:30

I am also not sure how a sausage made of a reshaped, sated and seasoned vegetables is somehow a fake food but sausage made of reshaped, salted and seasoned pig isn’t fake food Confused

GirlWithAGuitar · 27/10/2021 16:32

Ah how times have changed...i was taught when you are invited to someone´s house you eat what is offered, no pursuing personal fads...now everyone bends over backwards to accommodate people who wouldn´t dream of accommodating you...

Who taught you that? Some weirdo obviously. Some people get so defensive about someone following a vegan diet or lifestyle.

It’s sounds great OP and you sound really kind. As for eating less meat in general, that seems to be common now for most people I know who are not vege/vegan.

LennyAndTheDucks · 27/10/2021 16:38

Salted not sated...

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derxa · 27/10/2021 16:39

plant milks They're not milk.

Tilltheend99 · 27/10/2021 16:40

As a vegi I have never come across a store bought mince pie that didn’t have vegetable suet. But you may want to check the pastry wasn’t made with milk/egg as others have mentioned.

Yogawankonobi · 27/10/2021 16:40

You sound lovely op. Can I come too?

SofiaMichelle · 27/10/2021 16:44

@LadyJaye

I'm vegetarian, and it's easier to cook a default vegetarian/vegan meal rather than attempt to 'veganise' a traditionally meat/dairy-based meal.

With respect, OP, you're making a lot of work for yourself here.

I would be more inclined to go for a veg casserole/stew, made with vegetable bouillon (the Marigold brand is vegan), served with a grain such as bulgar wheat or freekeh, and something green, like roasted broccoli. Some great recipes here.

Frozen yoghurt with fruit is always a good choice for dessert!

I'd agree with this.

The 'fake' vegan stuff like cheese and sausages is invariably not very nice in my experience. We keep trying these things but don't tend to like any of them we've had so usually revert to completely different meals on days where we eat vegan/vegetarian.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/10/2021 16:47

@SVRT19674

Ah how times have changed...i was taught when you are invited to someone´s house you eat what is offered, no pursuing personal fads...now everyone bends over backwards to accommodate people who wouldn´t dream of accommodating you...
Dsis and I used to go and stay with one of my mum’s friends for a couple of weeks each summer. Before the first time we went, she asked mum if there was anything we didn’t like, and mum said we ate most things but we both hated liver.

That first time, she made liver pâté sandwiches, and we ate them because we had been taught it was rude to refuse - and because that was lunch and we were hungry. They were horrible, but we forced them down ‘to be polite’ - and mum’s friend decided mum was wrong and we actually liked liver - so we got liver pate sandwiches plenty more times, and for one, memorable meal - liver casserole.

It was vile - the only way I could eat it was to hold my breath and force it down. Dsis couldn’t finish hers, but I finished mine (leaving food was rude too), and I was even offered seconds. Luckily it was acceptable, in our family, to say “no thank you” to seconds.

I think that was the last time we went and stayed.

She had some other odd ideas about food - any leftovers from the week’s meals were saved in the fridge, and then on Friday she served ‘scraps dinner p’ and I scraps pudding’ - all the leftovers shared out equally between us all, which made for some odd combinations! And one evening, she did tea for us that consisted of bread and butter with various jams and chocolate spread and marmite - she had spread slices of bread with the different jams etc. The next day we had a picnic, and the sandwiches were these slices of buttered and topped bread, slapped together willy nilly - chocolate spread and marmite, anyone? Chicken and ham paste and sardine and tomato? No? Grin

Wroxie · 27/10/2021 16:47

@derxa

plant milks They're not milk.
This is so tedious. Why do you care? Do you want us to instead say

"white-coloured opaque liquid for baking, drinking, floating cereal, and lightening coffee and tea, for which no animal had to suffer, and which is better for the planet (with the exception perhaps of the almond kind), and which doesn't cause the vast numbers of people who suffer from some degree of lactose intolerance to suffer effects ranging from stomach cramps to shitting themselves" ?

because I'm sorry but that's just not going to catch on. So I'm sticking with Oat/Soy/Almond/Whatever milk and so is everyone else, you've lost this battle.

derxa · 27/10/2021 16:56

because I'm sorry but that's just not going to catch on. So I'm sticking with Oat/Soy/Almond/Whatever milk and so is everyone else, you've lost this battle.
www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/07/honeybees-deaths-almonds-hives-aoe
Millions of bees die in the production of almond crops. Vast monocultures create huge problems.

Wroxie · 27/10/2021 17:09

@derxa put your glasses on and read what I wrote again- I already called out almond production as the potential exception to the "better for the environment" point.
Seriously though, why do you care so much about the reputation and purity of the word "milk"? So weird.

scottishnames · 27/10/2021 17:10

derxa people have been using the word 'milk' (leche) since the Middle Ages to describe various mixtures of ground almonds and water or sieved cooked dates and water

starryflight But it's so easy to cook vegan food. Much easier than lots of trad meat or fish dishes. Roast veg, as a previous poster has said; stir-fries; pasta with olive oil-based sauces (eg vegan pesto); bean stews, risotto, veg curry, soups-with-nice seeded-breads, even baked potato/potato wedges with baked beans and garlic fried mushrooms (plus green sald or broccoli makes it even better) ....

GirlWithAGuitar · 27/10/2021 17:10

derxa

Great input to a thread asking about a vegan menu for OPs 17 year old daughters friend. 🙄

Farmers getting desperate with people decreasing the amount of meat and dairy they’re consuming. Bless.

00100001 · 27/10/2021 17:14

@derxa

plant milks They're not milk.
.... Peanuts aren't nuts, Brazil nuts aren't nuts, devils on horse back aren't actually demons riding an equine creature...

So what if they're called plant milks???

CalamariGames · 27/10/2021 17:15

My dd has a lot of vegan friends, she likes to cook for them herself if they come over, she often does pasta with vegan pesto.

neededafart · 27/10/2021 17:19

You sound like a really lovely host !

scottishnames · 27/10/2021 17:19

derxa like others, I am not encouragng the consumption of almond milk. I'm just saying that the name/concept has been around for over 500 years.

I don't like the taste of any sort of milk (having been forced to drink it - tepid - at school). So I never take it in tea or coffee and hardly ever use it (cow's or plant substitutes) in recipes. It's surprising how rarely it is actually needed. For eg, one can make a very nice white sauce with veg stock instead.

It's really easy to make oat 'milk' at home; recipe here: www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/oat-milk

neededafart · 27/10/2021 17:20

I personally would have thought it was too much effort and got a few vegan ready meals. But I am a really shit host at the best of times.

derxa · 27/10/2021 17:21

@GirlWithAGuitar

derxa

Great input to a thread asking about a vegan menu for OPs 17 year old daughters friend. 🙄

Farmers getting desperate with people decreasing the amount of meat and dairy they’re consuming. Bless.

The OP sounds lovely. I don't care what people eat but I do care about mislabelling.
GirlWithAGuitar · 27/10/2021 17:23

The OP sounds lovely. I don't care what people eat but I do care about mislabelling.

Of course you do. 😂

derxa · 27/10/2021 17:23

derxa people have been using the word 'milk' (leche) since the Middle Ages to describe various mixtures of ground almonds and water or sieved cooked dates and water Have you got a source for this?

123fushia · 27/10/2021 17:25

New to cooking vegan here too - for daughter and BF. Last Sunday made roast dinner with a really quick nut roast but for pud I bought a pkt of Just Rol shortcrust pastry, a bag of frozen cherries, black currants and blue berries and made a fruit pie. Bought alpro soya cream to go with it - delicious and very easy!

Elderflower14 · 27/10/2021 17:26

I always remember taking my autistic ds to a vegetarian friends for a bbq. She gave him a Linda McCartney vege sausage.. First mouthful and he spat it out... Singularly unimpressed!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

QuantumWeatherButterfly · 27/10/2021 17:26

What should I be saying instead of snogging, if I want to disguise how horribly old I am?

Menu sounds lovely, OP - apart from the mince pies, which are the work of the devilGrin. Hope it goes well!

GirlWithAGuitar · 27/10/2021 17:27

I drink oat ‘milk’. All the ones I’ve used call themselves oat ‘drink’, so they don’t seem to use the term ‘milk’ anyway. 🤷🏻‍♀️