Brexit is all going swimmingly then.

[StealthPolarBear]

Other than a few minor teething problems that let's face it no one could have ever predicted.

Teresa May so bumptious thought we would accept the Brexit in name only. Some ego!

Theresa May sensibly recognised that the best thing following the vote, was to make Brexit as easy as possible and minimise the damage it would do. Unfortunately, by that time, "Sensible" had completely gone out of fashion in the UK.

If you want to find someone to blame here's a cut out and keep list;

Boris Johnson
Nigel Farage

David and Frederick Barclay
Jonathan Harmsworth
Rupert Murdoch
Richard Desmond

I’m not sure the uk public (mainland that is) are particularly clued up on what is going on. The unionist terrorists in NI have ended their ceasefire and no longer recognise the GFA, the DUP (and other unionist parties) have ceased north south relations and are no longer adhering to the GFA. We’re on the brink of serious civil disturbance and the uk government are shitting bricks. Their unionist and conservative instincts are pushing them into ‘picking a side’ and that side is the unionists. We are very close to the uk government issuing article 16 and the GFA dieing.

As ever NI cannot be in a customs union with both the uk and the Eu. Equally it cannot be in a customs Union with the Eu and also not with the Uk nor with the Eu and not the uk. It’s an impossible conundrum that brexit delivered. We’re kicking a (sort of) sleeping bear and the outcome of that is never great.

@imblueduboodee

Darlings... are you STILL in disbelief that you voted remain and you were in the minority? Surely by now you have understood that maybe you were not so in touch with reality as you thought? It's a shame people took part in a referendum, understanding how one works, but yet still can't get over losing? There's this constant want for "I told you so" but do you really think this country would be better off as part of the EU? Get a hobby!

Oh darling, you’re rather patronising and condescending aren’t you. Win lots of intellectual debates with that approach do you? But then the line “you lost, get over it” is about the level of a 5-year old, so maybe not

@Unphased

You seem to find it hard to understand economics. One question I can help with is How are rising prices caused by Brexit, America, Europe, etc all have high inflation ( price rises ) - the UK has two problems - inflation as e.g. America plus additional costs e.g. import costs as a result of Brexit, additional staff time required due to Brexit.

Have a read about import costs. They make things more expensive. They are nothing to do with the pandemic. Also read about non-tariff barriers.

Those who voted for Brexit and now deny the impacts - why lie to yourself? I thought you all knew what you were voting for?

If you voted for Brexit, you voted for a weaker poorer Britain. Just own it. Just say 'I believed a big old load of poppycock because it pulled my heartstrings'.

Disagree that May was taking through a softer Brexit - she is the one that made the decision to leave the single market and customs union, which is fundamentally the problem rather than Brexit itself.

Her Lancaster House speech was the point where I went 'oh fuck' and started getting worried about what was coming.

The decision by Johnson not to extend the transition - which he absolutely could have done last year, to whoever made that comment last year - was criminal. We didn't need to compound Brexit effects on top of COVID effects. But Johnson decided to.

Agree transition should have been extended.

BINO would have suited the public tbh, just not the Tory zealots.

Does anyone know where we are in relation to Government Brexit promises ? I know the managing expectation goalpost's have moved quite considerably since those halcyon days of 2016.

@wherearemychickens

Disagree that May was taking through a softer Brexit - she is the one that made the decision to leave the single market and customs union, which is fundamentally the problem rather than Brexit itself.

May may have said said she wanted to leave the CU/SM but then she negotiated the Irish Backstop which would probably have kept us all in the CU/SM indefinitely. Whereas Johnson agreed to the Protocol, fully intending to renege on the agreement. Which is going to be a massive problem.

@hayley037

I’m not sure the uk public (mainland that is) are particularly clued up on what is going on. The unionist terrorists in NI have ended their ceasefire and no longer recognise the GFA, the DUP (and other unionist parties) have ceased north south relations and are no longer adhering to the GFA. We’re on the brink of serious civil disturbance and the uk government are shitting bricks. Their unionist and conservative instincts are pushing them into ‘picking a side’ and that side is the unionists. We are very close to the uk government issuing article 16 and the GFA dieing.

As ever NI cannot be in a customs union with both the uk and the Eu. Equally it cannot be in a customs Union with the Eu and also not with the Uk nor with the Eu and not the uk. It’s an impossible conundrum that brexit delivered. We’re kicking a (sort of) sleeping bear and the outcome of that is never great.

Excellent post. Unfortunately none outside the Island of Ireland seems to give a shit about this.

I’m sorry but Theresa May and her red lines and ‘citizens of nowhere’ speech is as responsible as the others for the version of Brexit we have. No CU/SM

There is no evidence that Brexit has benefitted the UK. None. End of.

@rrhuth

My view is the remain campaign was flawed, quite dull and led by the wrong people.

Well, it wasn't funded by shedloads of dark money from nefarious sources so...

The pandemic has been a far bigger problem then Brexit ever will be

Funny, the experts say the exact opposite.
Plus, nobody voted for covid.

@IpanemaPeaHen

I’m sorry but Theresa May and her red lines and ‘citizens of nowhere’ speech is as responsible as the others for the version of Brexit we have. No CU/SM

I'm not absolving her of responsibility for the hard line she took to pander to Brexshitters and making half the UK feel incredibly uncomfortable for many years, I'm just saying that her version would have been slightly better than the situation we are now in. Unfortunately she got caught out by Arlene.

Excellent post. Unfortunately none outside the Island of Ireland seems to give a shit about this.

Agreed.
There's even been polling showing Leave voters would rather see blood on the streets of Ireland than no Brexit. Despicable people.

All water under the bridge now, anyway.

Agreed.
There's even been polling showing Leave voters would rather see blood on the streets of Ireland than no Brexit. Despicable people.

Then they learn nothing from history, because if it all kicks off again eventually it will come their way too.

I'm fifty, I remember how great the 90s were. And the 2012 Olympics, the UK was on a real high then. It's so, so sad what voters have done to the country.

Then they learn nothing from history, because if it all kicks off again eventually it will come their way too.

Well except it probably won't.
If you're a comfortable Leave voter in the home counties (as a great number are) violence on the street of Belfast will only ever be something you see on the news and couldn't care less about.

Except it probably will. The violence will spread, like before.

Really hoping the EU can intercede in some way before it kicks off.

On a side note, I do think politicians should have to pass psychological screening tests before they are allowed to stand for election.

We need to rejoin the Single Market asap. Bregretters need to start demanding that. It's the least they can do.

Well except it probably won't.
If you're a comfortable Leave voter in the home counties (as a great number are) violence on the street of Belfast will only ever be something you see on the news and couldn't care less about.

I lived in London in the 90s (Irish person) and remember the Bishopsgate bombing.

But this is what the majority wants and repearedly voted for, fully knowing, so? We cannot complain now.....