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Campaigners lose abortion fight

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EmeraldRaine · 23/09/2021 16:09

Heidi Crowter and a few others were campaigning to remove the right for women to choose abortion if their baby was found to be affected by Downs syndrome. These campaigners feel that women shouldn't have the right to terminate a pregnancy because the foetus has Downs Syndrome, because it discriminates against people with Downs syndrome.

Cant help but think that this was a victory for common sense. Downs syndrome like every other disability is different from person to person and lots of people would feel unable to cope with a child with a lifelong disability. To say that isn't discriminating against disabled people. The only person who has the right to choose in every single case, is the woman who is pregnant. Perhaps these campaigners would be better off campaiging for better support for disabled people and their carers than trying to remove women's rights to make decisions that are best for them.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-58662846

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Voldr · 05/10/2021 12:25

I don't think you know what murder is

MarthaJonesPhone · 05/10/2021 15:17

If you're talking about an abortion just before birth at 40 weeks how the fuck do you think that happens? I'm not going to describe it here. So yeah I do know what fucking murder is, you apparently don't!

ElectricDeChocobo · 05/10/2021 15:39

@MarthaJonesPhone

If you're talking about an abortion just before birth at 40 weeks how the fuck do you think that happens? I'm not going to describe it here. So yeah I do know what fucking murder is, you apparently don't!
Murder is illegal. Having an abortion within the legal limit is not murder.
GatoradeMeBitch · 05/10/2021 15:41

That POINT is 24 weeks because the babies are most likely viable from then. As they’re viable, at that point I personally think it is murder.

Why not induce all pregnancies at 24 weeks then? Shorter pregnancies, shorter time for women to be away from work, a perkier economy. 65% chance of survival means a drop in the birth rate, great for the planet. Good idea.

Clocktopus · 05/10/2021 17:03

As they’re viable, at that point I personally think it is murder.

Thankfully the law doesn't care what you think.

elliejjtiny · 05/10/2021 20:15

I think we (as in society) need to think about what we are trying to achieve here. If the aim is to reduce the number of babies who have downs syndrome being aborted then I think we need to massively increase support to people with disabilities and their carers. I do think it's a good idea to make the abortion limit equal for all babies, not later for babies with a disability. But to do that we either need better antenatal care and testing and/or extending the limit of when abortions can happen for healthy/non disabled babies. I don't think there will be any more abortions happening if we do that but I think it will make a difference to how disabled people feel they are viewed by society.

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palestia · 19/01/2022 11:47

I have always believed that abortion is the right of every woman's choice and no one, except her, has the right to decide the fate of the unborn child. Now, this issue is being actively discussed in many countries. I am actively trying to find this information and convey to as many people as possible that abortion is normal. Reading argumentative essays on abortion, I became convinced that having an abortion more often is much more humane than giving birth to a child and then leaving him to the mercy of fate.

Shapiro · 19/01/2022 11:53

@palestia

I have always believed that abortion is the right of every woman's choice and no one, except her, has the right to decide the fate of the unborn child. Now, this issue is being actively discussed in many countries. I am actively trying to find this information and convey to as many people as possible that abortion is normal. Reading argumentative essays on abortion, I became convinced that having an abortion more often is much more humane than giving birth to a child and then leaving him to the mercy of fate.
I have the exact opposite opinion. No one should have the right to deny life to an unborn child.
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