News on 1950s women’s Pension

[Immaculatemisconception]

Women's state pension: Compensation closer for Waspi campaigners www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57900320

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

Why are you get people being asked to meet the cost?

Dental charges were introduced to pay for Britain’s role in the Korean War. We’re still finding that now judging by the charges.

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

Funding

[IvorHughJarrs]

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

There seems to be a lack of awareness from this campaign that the money would have to come from somewhere and that would be from younger people rather than a mythical money tree

When National Insurance was set up, it was always the case that younger supported older. But it’s cyclical, young people will support you when you’re older. That’s how it’s meant to work.

The problem with this system is that it assumes the situation would remain as it was at the time of setting up when people died relatively young and had more children. Higher life expectancy and falling birth rates mean this is no longer sustainable
I still think this campaign is based, solely, on greed.

[Iamthewombat]

Why are you get people being asked to meet the cost?

Do you mean ‘why are younger people being asked to meet the cost’?

Where do you think the billions of compensation you are requesting will come from? Down the back of Rishi Sunak’s sofa? It will come from general taxation, and the bulk will be drawn from increasing income taxes, including NI.

If you and the other WASPI women have stoped working, you won’t be paying much tax, will you? So the burden will have to fall on younger generations.

[Iamthewombat]

Anything could happen and you could end up grateful that there is a precedent in place.

Of all the pro-WASPI arguments I’ve seen on this thread, this is the bleakest. It assumes that younger women are like you.

The ‘thing’ that has ‘happened’ to you has already happened to younger women - we have to wait until at least 66 to get state pension and our pension age is likely to rise again under the most recent set of proposals - but we’re not crying about injustice, pretending we never read a newspaper or listened to a news bulletin and demanding that our state pension age is rolled back to 60. Nor do I expect to do so in the future if benefits are changed to my detriment. Why? Because younger people, who have it worse than me in many ways, would have to pay for it.

[Bythemillpond]

Of all the pro-WASPI arguments I’ve seen on this thread, this is the bleakest. It assumes that younger women are like you

The ‘thing’ that has ‘happened’ to you has already happened to younger women - we have to wait until at least 66 to get state pension and our pension age is likely to rise again under the most recent set of proposals - but we’re not crying about injustice, pretending we never read a newspaper or listened to a news bulletin and demanding that our state pension age is rolled back to 60. Nor do I expect to do so in the future if benefits are changed to my detriment. Why? Because younger people, who have it worse than me in many ways, would have to pay for it

What do you mean like me?
I am too young to be a WASPI woman
Why assume it is just about moving the date of when you can retire.
Anything could happen and if the government think you are not going to fight because of some form of altruism then you leave yourself open to be walked all over.

Why do you think people are lying when they say they never read a newspaper or heard a news bulletin.
Lots of people don’t buy newspapers and don’t watch the news. Plus people didn’t have the internet, phones or computers so you could be in blissful ignorance about a lot of things.

[AimingForSerenity]

@Bythemillpond Why do you think people are lying when they say they never read a newspaper or heard a news bulletin.
Lots of people don’t buy newspapers and don’t watch the news. Plus people didn’t have the internet, phones or computers so you could be in blissful ignorance about a lot of things.
I am in this age group and I can assure you, as others have upthread, it was on the TV/radio and in newspapers and magazines for ages before it happened. It was widely discussed by people we knew and I know at least one friend had advice from the company she worked for. Sadly there will always be some people who claim to have been living under a rock if they think they will get money for it and, personally, I don't think they should be pandered to at the expense of children. Ironic they want female solidarity while they show none to the young

[tealappeal]

For many of the WASPI women who really need this extra payment financially (and no, they're not all rolling in fantastic pension money) this will mean they are less reliant on other benefits. Although I think they should all be entitled to it, as the ombudsman has declared they weren't informed on time, I also wonder if the amount is an issue, could it be means-tested? For example, I know a WASPI woman who is looking after an aging parent and an adult child (with SEN) who would really benefit from the extra payment, but I can imagine there are others who have had final salary pensions, where morally, I understand the need for some sort of closure and acknowledgment of the unfairness, but don't necessarily need the money.